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Boutta send my first backie

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Demillsta
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Hey guys, my mount just built some kickers and I'm thinking about sending my first backie there. Should I do it on the kickers or on a natural jump?
Jan 10 2019 3:49AM
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Jems
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I tried my firsts on a smaller park jump.
Here of the following things you should and
shouldn’t do:
1 - Don’t bail out in the middle of the flip or else everyone’s worst fears come true.
2 - Make sure you throw it back and up, not just up like a trampoline backie, or else #1 happens.
3 - Throw it hard if you’re on a small jump and make sure to tuck.
4- Don’t be scared of it because the worst that can happen is just a hard landing.
Jan 10 2019 8:33AM
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Cheetodawg
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JemsI tried my firsts on a smaller park jump.
Here of the following things you should and
shouldn’t do:
1 - Don’t bail out in the middle of the flip or else everyone’s worst fears come true.
2 - Make sure you throw it back and up, not just up like a trampoline backie, or else #1 happens.
3 - Throw it hard if you’re on a small jump and make sure to tuck.
4- Don’t be scared of it because the worst that can happen is just a hard landing.


Yes
Jan 10 2019 9:54AM
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HypeBeast
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Jemsthe worst that can happen is just a hard landing.

.... Or becoming a quadriplegic or dying lol
Jan 10 2019 10:02AM
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Demillsta
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runforlove2018.... Or becoming a quadriplegic or dying lol

This is really the result I'm going for, how do I get these results?
Jan 10 2019 10:17AM
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Jems
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ddemille1This is really the result I'm going for, how do I get these results?


Find the biggest jump you can, bail out when you’re upside down then break your neck
Jan 10 2019 10:24AM
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Demillsta
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JemsFind the biggest jump you can, bail out when you’re upside down then break your neck


Hell yeah, I'll send you a video of the results
Jan 10 2019 10:36AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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Do it off a small kicker into pow
Jan 10 2019 10:36AM
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skiguy04
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Hahahah another thinking about backflips thread...

Wait for this thread to reach 25 pages that’s how they do it in the x games promise
Jan 10 2019 10:41AM
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SofaKingSick
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skiguy04Hahahah another thinking about backflips thread...

Wait for this thread to reach 25 pages that’s how they do it in the x games promise


if you can do backies then you should know it can be intimidating to try at first

if you can't do backies get the fuck out of here with your sour grapes bullshit haha



best trick ever invented, it's worth discussing over and over. OP, i def enjoyed doing my first one on a woods jump with soft snow but if the park is soft and you like a certain kicker that's great too. just remember to POP and it's all in the hips, it's all in the hips

Jan 10 2019 10:50AM
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skiguy04
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Lol I’ve done double backie
Jan 10 2019 11:19AM
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Woos
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I haven't done one in like 5 years but I learned into what we call pow here in the Midwest. It was off of a kicker with a steep lip that we threw together off the side of a groomer. Personally I found that way less intimidating than the soft snow at the park. Also I personally get more scared due to the park jump looking so much larger due to the landing they have to build. Even though you might get similar air off of the jump you make, it just looks less spooky dooky.

Gl. I'd like to learn to flip again but I've skied only a few times this and last year and I quit skiing for 4 or five years before that. This thread makes me want to try though...
Jan 10 2019 11:28AM
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Sharko
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skiguy04Lol I’ve done double backie


Lmfao I’ve done quintuple backie
Jan 10 2019 11:33AM
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skiguy04
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Hahahah hahaha you look like such a gaper - stick to moguls dawg
Jan 10 2019 11:36AM
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Demillsta
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SharkoLmfao I’ve done quintuple backie

Nice try bud I just made my first attempt and ended up getting 12 rotations around. Get good
Jan 10 2019 11:39AM
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skiguy04
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ddemille1Nice try bud I just made my first attempt and ended up getting 12 rotations around. Get good


Sicccckkkk sweet man 12 times better than my first try maybe you can get sponsored by tampax
Jan 10 2019 11:44AM
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Demillsta
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skiguy04Sicccckkkk sweet man 12 times better than my first try maybe you can get sponsored by tampax


Tampax is kinda pussy shit, hoping to pick up maxie pads
Jan 10 2019 11:45AM
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skiguy04
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Word it’s all about dat heavy flow and wide set vaginas
Jan 10 2019 11:47AM
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Idahoe
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I have never seen someone get hurt by overcommitting on their first backie. just commit and you will be fine
Jan 10 2019 1:19PM
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skiguy04
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SharkoLmfao I’ve done quintuple backie


IdahoeI have never seen someone get hurt by overcommitting on their first backie. just commit and you will be fine


There you go even in the moguls
Jan 10 2019 1:29PM
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iProgoalie
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IdahoeI have never seen someone get hurt by overcommitting on their first backie. just commit and you will be fine


Pretty much this. If you don't fully commit you're more likely to get hurt.
Jan 10 2019 3:20PM
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theabortionator
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Small park jump is the best option. Even sometimes a hip can be good if you deck out on it. Easy to get chest+ height, steep takeoff, and you'll land flat but if you don't stomp it you'll just fall over rather than have forward momentum.

Make sure you commit, go straight back. Most people come pretty close to landing their first ones so if you send it right, the odds are ever in your favor :)


Also vid or it didn't happen.
Jan 10 2019 3:26PM
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Sharko
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ddemille1Nice try bud I just made my first attempt and ended up getting 12 rotations around. Get good

Duodecuple backie!
Jan 11 2019 1:06AM
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zman420
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Send vids
Jan 11 2019 1:41AM
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Al.Capone
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When i send my first backy im making a thread and posting it no later then 8 hrs after no excuses.
Jan 11 2019 2:24AM
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skiguy04
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Al.CaponeWhen i send my first backy im making a thread and posting it no later then 8 hrs after no excuses.

...:..:.......: making a thread


How about posting on an already existing thread.... I’m gonna have to ask you to post your claim where original claim was posted, that would be great, mmmkay? Thanks
Jan 11 2019 12:48PM
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Demillsta
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Al.CaponeWhen i send my first backy im making a thread and posting it no later then 8 hrs after no excuses.


Haven't been to my local mountain since I've made the thread, planning on bucking it this weekend if it's not icy
Jan 11 2019 12:56PM
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skiguy04
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DemillstaHaven't been to my local mountain since I've made the thread, planning on bucking it this weekend if it's not icy


Lol if it’s not icy...:

Or too sunny...

Or you ran out of maxi pads
Jan 11 2019 1:00PM
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Demillsta
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skiguy04Lol if it’s not icy...:

Or too sunny...

Or you ran out of maxi pads


Nah, just If the landings ice. I'm really hyped on sending it
Jan 11 2019 1:02PM
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SuspiciousFish
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Your first backie should be off a diving board IMO. Find a local YMCA with a pool with diving boards and go with your buddies. Hit the board a few times just doing a straight air until you feel comfortable keeping your eyes up and really jumping up and out. Then practice the backward rotation until you get it to muscle memory and throwing gainers feels like second nature. When you get to the snow your body will already know what to do, just set the rotation a little harder to account for your skis. As others have mentioned, its all in your hips. You want a solid pop then push your hips forward over your head and keep looking up to spot your landing as you come around.
Jan 11 2019 1:04PM
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Demillsta
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SuspiciousFishYour first backie should be off a diving board IMO. Find a local YMCA with a pool with diving boards and go with your buddies. Hit the board a few times just doing a straight air until you feel comfortable keeping your eyes up and really jumping up and out. Then practice the backward rotation until you get it to muscle memory and throwing gainers feels like second nature. When you get to the snow your body will already know what to do, just set the rotation a little harder to account for your skis. As others have mentioned, its all in your hips. You want a solid pop then push your hips forward over your head and keep looking up to spot your landing as you come around.

I can gainer and backie, I've just been a pussy about huckin it on snow. I was big on trampoline flips for a while so I can dub back and triple full on tramp
Jan 11 2019 1:22PM
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SuspiciousFish
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DemillstaI can gainer and backie, I've just been a pussy about huckin it on snow. I was big on trampoline flips for a while so I can dub back and triple full on tramp


Nice man, good for you for putting in the work. Personally, I would build or find a booter to throw it in powder instead of the park.
Jan 11 2019 1:55PM
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Al.Capone
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skiguy04...:..:.......: making a thread


How about posting on an already existing thread.... I’m gonna have to ask you to post your claim where original claim was posted, that would be great, mmmkay? Thanks


Yeah that’s way less effort. I’ll just post it on the abortionator’s thread
Jan 11 2019 1:59PM
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Puzzled
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Hands down the easiest trick you can do on a steep jump. Pop backward, arch back and suck up your legs when you see the landing. Literally easier than doing an upright 3.
Jan 11 2019 4:52PM
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SofaKingSick
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PuzzledHands down the easiest trick you can do on a steep jump. Pop backward, arch back and suck up your legs when you see the landing. Literally easier than doing an upright 3.


exactly, i don't get to ski much these days and i'll still send backies first hit no problem, while 3s i'm a little more nervous about

people aren't joking when they say once you learn it it's very easy. best trick ever, just scary to try at first. over rotating is way better than under-rotating though, remember that
Jan 11 2019 4:59PM
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theabortionator
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SuspiciousFishNice man, good for you for putting in the work. Personally, I would build or find a booter to throw it in powder instead of the park.


Sometimes but a lot of times people end up throwing them off the shittiest jumps for a few inches of pow. A better jump over a little bit of powder. I mean if it's deep who cares, land however and it doesn't matter. I honestly haven't seen too many bad fails on people throwing their first flips, and those ones were 99% of the time a commitment issue. Sometimes people who had never thrown a flip on anything.

Also if the jumps super shitty it makes it harder to do the trick in the first place. Sure the landings softer if you eat shit, but you're more likely to eat shit. Something like a windlip or steep back with a smooth takeoff into some pow is ideal, but a lot of people will struggle to find one at their home mountain, or anything similar will have those death rollers in the takeoff which throws off the trick.

There are plenty of shitty jumps in parks too, so it's all judgement. But almost all the first flips I've seen in the park have come super close or stomped the first one. Most of the time landed within 3.

I don't want to say that pow is overrated. But for this I feel it kind of is. If you can do it on a tramp, diving board, the ground, skate 3, etc you can do it in the park. Most people get scared, say fuck it send the damn thing, almost land it, land it next try, and wonder why they were a pussy all those years.
Jan 11 2019 7:52PM
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CharlzHub
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IdahoeI have never seen someone get hurt by overcommitting on their first backie. just commit and you will be fine


This is the best advice I’ve heard
Jan 11 2019 8:10PM
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MoneyMakerMike
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I don't think it really matters if you do it on a park jump or not, just fully commit your first one and once you land one, you will want to do them off everything. Definitely one of my favorite tricks.
Jan 11 2019 8:55PM
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skiguy04
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You won’t know what commitment to a backflip fells like until you know what not committing feels like
Jan 11 2019 10:37PM
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DemillstaI can gainer and backie, I've just been a pussy about huckin it on snow. I was big on trampoline flips for a while so I can dub back and triple full on tramp


You have no idea how easy this is about to be for you. I'm dead serious. Just send it. I was in your position with all the gainer/tramp skills and was so fucking scared to throw it on snow for fear of it somehow being wildly different and me wrecking myself.

This is how my first try went many many years ago:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/303358/Backflip-on-Mini-booter
Was later asking myself why the hell I waited so long to do it.

**This post was edited on Jan 11th 2019 at 10:40:28pm
Jan 11 2019 10:39PM
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hootsquad
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1. go upside down
2. go right side up
3. ?????
4. profit
Jan 12 2019 12:46AM
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Demillsta
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hootsquad1. go upside down
2. go right side up
3. ?????
4. profit


Well guys I fucked my ankle going a little too deep on a 7. Not gonna be able to huck the backie today:(
Jan 12 2019 4:20PM
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skiguy04
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DemillstaWell guys I fucked my ankle going a little too deep on a 7. Not gonna be able to huck the backie today:(


HahahhhahH
Jan 12 2019 5:48PM
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Demillsta
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skiguy04HahahhhahH

I'm genuinely bummed out, I'll send the footy when I'm back skiing and send er
Jan 12 2019 7:49PM
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skiguy04
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DemillstaI'm genuinely bummed out, I'll send the footy when I'm back skiing and send er


Ok sweet do it
Jan 14 2019 10:22PM
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Demillsta
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skiguy04Ok sweet do it

Were also being blessed with a few days of snow this week, so hoping to get er done
Jan 14 2019 10:25PM
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Demillsta
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skiguy04Ok sweet do it

Also you think this is a big enough jump to do it on?

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/920948/Snapchat-2033220432-mp4
Jan 14 2019 10:27PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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DemillstaAlso you think this is a big enough jump to do it on?

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/920948/Snapchat-2033220432-mp4


you good chief, now go and huck
Jan 15 2019 12:15AM
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SofaKingSick
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DemillstaAlso you think this is a big enough jump to do it on?

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/920948/Snapchat-2033220432-mp4


yeah, but i might go a tiny bit faster (tough to tell with the slow mo video). that's a good setup generally though-- nice big mellow landing

remember, POP and it's all in the hips. you got this dog, don't build it up in your head, there are little girls who can backflip. also id say better to over rotate than under rotate so POP and send baby. i bet you at least bring it to your feet somewhat first try
Jan 15 2019 9:59AM
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freestyler540
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DemillstaAlso you think this is a big enough jump to do it on?

Yup, now send it! Post the vid after
Jan 15 2019 10:28AM
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skiguy04
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freestyler540Yup, now send it! Post the vid after


Right, not sure if you know this but it’s never gonna happen ...

Also you have to give me credit for my quote in your signature

**This post was edited on Jan 15th 2019 at 12:24:36pm
Jan 15 2019 12:23PM
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