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brian0
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I was wondering if you can get out of a tree well by yourself? Going to Whistler next week and will be skiing by myself, they are posting on their website and Instagram about tree well risks and stay within your partners sight, kinda worries me. First time going to west coast as well.

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Dec 14 2018 9:50AM
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Ali_Dibden
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Sure you could get yourself if you fall feet first and only a couple of feet down. I've been buried head-first, 5' down with enough snow to cover me completely...... so without my partner seeing the fall, I would've be toast.
Dec 14 2018 10:01AM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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Find a buddy and ski with him

Tree wells are scary asf

If you go solo buy a whistle, sure you look like a gaper but it could save your life
Dec 14 2018 10:23AM
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DominatorJacques
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Chawn2112I was wondering if you can get out of a tree well by yourself? Going to Whistler next week and will be skiing by myself, they are posting on their website and Instagram about tree well risks and stay within your partners sight, kinda worries me. First going to west coast as well.

Two deaths last season at Mt Bachelor from tree wells. Don't mess with them alone.
Dec 14 2018 10:50AM
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theabortionator
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Rolled up on a lid in a tree well last year. We got 7 feet of snow in 2 or 3 days and 11 feet that week. A guy that got there right before me pulled him out as I was unstapping. Kid threw up a few times. Was head first in. Scary shit. Wasn't in the highest traffic area could have gone really wrong.

Was riding solo because lap after my grave shift. Luckily now have plenty of people to cruise with.

You can ride trees alone but if you get stuck head first in a tree well, nobody will know youre there and youre just hoping some body will find you. You can look up the locations of somefatalities and its sometimes charlie brown Christmas tree types. Shit that doesnt even look dangerous.

Be careful have fun
Dec 14 2018 10:56AM
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skiP.E.I.
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Find a riding buddy if you're skiing near tree wells. Plenty of NSers in Whis who I'm sure would ski with you. Having a whistle on you somewhere you can reach it isn't a bad call either, so you can signal if you need help.
Dec 14 2018 11:03AM
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f100prerunner
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Skiing by yourself in trees with lots of fresh snow = bad idea
Dec 14 2018 11:48AM
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iskeaah
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there is plenty of skiing away from trees, just stay safe wear whistle and beacon.
Dec 14 2018 12:10PM
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OregonDead
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Be careful. It's early and things are really unconsolidated. You gotta stay safe and do your own risk management. Anytime you are alone skiing or not something could go wrong that a partner could assist you with. If you are with a partner remember that you are kinda on your own anyways. If partner is downhill and not watching you could disappear and they'd never know even if they aren't very far. Or if your partner is uphill and loses site and doesn't follow you exactly then it's like "where did you go".
Carrying a whistle is a good idea in case you are stuck and can't get out but can breath. A whistle is probably a good idea even if the wells aren't dangerous because if you just break yourself and it's windy the patrol might not hear you even if you are lying there yelling just off the run.
Dec 14 2018 1:27PM
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theabortionator
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/917769/Dj-Alligator-Project-Blow-My-Whistle-Bitch I couldn't help myself but honestly I try and always ride with a whistle these days. Always hike with one of those compass/whistle combo deals on my pack too. I do some longer hikes, and prefer ones where nobody is around, and sometimes at shittier times of the year. If it's a high around 40 you don't wanna get stuck outside on a day hike really. A whistle can be heard wayyy farther than your voice, and that shrill sound makes people listen.

As a few people mentioned not a bad thing to have. Youll probably never use it, but why not have one?
Dec 14 2018 3:36PM
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freestyler540
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tree wells should be in the back of your mind. I will also mention tree bombs go hand in hand with tree wells. Tree bombs can be massive as fuck.
Dec 14 2018 4:31PM
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Vitiligo
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Like everyone is saying, do not ski the trees alone with how much new snow they have. Even with them in the back of your mind you can always get tripped up and fly into a tree well head first. Then you're a goner. Find a buddy or at least have a whistle on you and dont go too deep into the trees so incase you do get stuck someone is more likely to hear a whistle.
Dec 14 2018 5:00PM
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DominatorJacques
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Phones and whistles won't do you any good cus you won't be able to get to them.
Dec 14 2018 8:13PM
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LineSkier
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DominatorJacquesPhones and whistles won't do you any good cus you won't be able to get to them.


Or blow/talk into them because you're suffocating.
Dec 14 2018 8:15PM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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LineSkierOr blow/talk into them because you're suffocating.


SMH if you're in a tree we'll you may as well just lay down and rot
Dec 14 2018 8:17PM
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theabortionator
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DominatorJacquesPhones and whistles won't do you any good cus you won't be able to get to them.


Nobody was suggesting if you're head first in a treewell you can blow a whistle. Everybody suggested riding with a friend. Riding with a whistle is great though. Not a reason to be an idiot but it can help. Plenty of people eat shit riding alone and get stuck for a while before people find them.
Dec 14 2018 8:54PM
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DominatorJacques
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LineSkierOr blow/talk into them because you're suffocating.


Sad, but true.
Dec 14 2018 9:16PM
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DominatorJacques
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theabortionatorNobody was suggesting if you're head first in a treewell you can blow a whistle. Everybody suggested riding with a friend. Riding with a whistle is great though. Not a reason to be an idiot but it can help. Plenty of people eat shit riding alone and get stuck for a while before people find them.


Truth. It is very good to carry a whistle. If you are not in a well, and hurt out in the trees, it can be a huge plus.
I just use my lips. I figure if they don't work, I won't be able to blow on one either. ;-)
Dec 14 2018 9:20PM
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HypeBeast
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DominatorJacquesPhones and whistles won't do you any good cus you won't be able to get to them.

Tree wells scare the piss outta me but I disagree partially with this statement. The more resources the better.

Attach the whistle to your backpack strap. Totally accessible unless your hands are somehow immoble. Also many packs have built in whistles on the chest strap.

I agree on phones. Gonna be difficult to get to and if you did get to it, there's no telling if it will be dead or if you've got service. Although, rocking headphones (assuming they don't get ripped out), "OK Google, call 911" could work. There was a story about a snowboarder a few years ago who managed to call ski patrol and they came and dug him out. Totally lucky though since air doesn't last long.

Anyone have thoughts about avalung? They kinda seem perfect for tree wells to give you a little more time to get dug out before suffocating.

OP definitely don't ride alone. There's probably always someone on the lift or nearby who you can tag along with in the trees if you so desire. It's nearly impossible to free yourself if you fall headfirst into a tree well which is most likely the way you would fall.

Here ya go OP: http://www.deepsnowsafety.org/
Dec 15 2018 1:04AM
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The.Fish
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I am going out to utah to ski the cottonwoods in a couple of weeks. Are tree wells a concern there because the snow has came gradually and not in one giant dunp like Whistler. I will be skiing alone unless somebody on here wants to meet up between the 27th and 29th
Dec 15 2018 1:34AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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The.FishI am going out to utah to ski the cottonwoods in a couple of weeks. Are tree wells a concern there because the snow has came gradually and not in one giant dunp like Whistler. I will be skiing alone unless somebody on here wants to meet up between the 27th and 29th


you'll prob be fine unless tis been dumping in utah
Dec 15 2018 2:38AM
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ajerrywithstyle
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Tree wells scare the shit out of me.avalungs are also a good idea. They’ll give you some extra time to be rescued.

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Dec 15 2018 9:20AM
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cool_name
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I ski alone at whistler lots and don’t get in the trees, but there is more than enough terrain without trees. So don’t worry op, avoiding tree runs really isn’t that big of a sacrifice
Dec 15 2018 10:57AM
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HypeBeast
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Can't tell if this is just a major tree well with the entire tree under the snow or just a gaping hole, but ggddsaammnnn....of course they don't have shovelshttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/917859/Snowboarders-lucky-escape-caught-on-2-GoPro-s
Dec 15 2018 1:45PM
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jamsandwich
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Whistler had a near death accident involving a tree well two days ago. Stay within sight of your partner if you are skiing trees on high danger days. Person had a partner but not in sight and on that day the snow was so deep if you were 50 ft downhill you couldnt get back up in time. Luckily someone saw a ski and revived the person. Be careful out there
Dec 15 2018 11:03PM
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Chunderface
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Head first into a tree well, bottom line...you're fucked.
Dec 16 2018 1:04AM
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brian0
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I'd be cool if anyone can ski with me, I will be skiing there from December 19 to 25th, PM me if you r interested. Thx
Dec 16 2018 11:11AM
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Govygen_gourmet
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DominatorJacquesTwo deaths last season at Mt Bachelor from tree wells. Don't mess with them alone.


Scary shit to know that I skied the same treeeees and went to the same spots those that died did. It could happen to anyone :(
Dec 16 2018 2:32PM
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DominatorJacques
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Govygen_gourmetScary shit to know that I skied the same treeeees and went to the same spots those that died did. It could happen to anyone :(


Yes it could, even the most expert skiers in the world. Always use the buddy system.
If you go out with someone and they go out of sight, they are not being a "good buddy"! That could mean either of your lives.
Dec 17 2018 10:24AM
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brian0
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Mmm can't seem to find a buddy, whatever what are the chances
Dec 17 2018 9:44PM
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DirtYStylE
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Chawn2112Mmm can't seem to find a buddy, whatever what are the chances


Don't sweat it. There were a few threads looking for a local to show them around. They were willing to pay anyone that spoke up. It took a good while for the threads to find the right people.

Whistler is monstrous and I would argue that its not known for its tree skiing. It literally takes two days to explore the entire area. Stay out of the trees until you meet some chill dudes on the lift.
Dec 18 2018 7:23PM
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theabortionator
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runforlove2018Can't tell if this is just a major tree well with the entire tree under the snow or just a gaping hole, but ggddsaammnnn....of course they don't have shovelshttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/917859/Snowboarders-lucky-escape-caught-on-2-GoPro-s


Step 1: When assisting friend make sure to keep good angle with selfie stick
Dec 18 2018 7:31PM
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DominatorJacques
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theabortionatorStep 1: When assisting friend make sure to keep good angle with selfie stick


Knarly fumarole! Those be all over Mt Bachelor!
Dec 18 2018 10:30PM
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HypeBeast
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DominatorJacquesKnarly fumarole! Those be all over Mt Bachelor!


So basically what you're saying is avoid tree wells only to fall into a portal to third dimension
Dec 18 2018 11:45PM
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DominatorJacques
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runforlove2018So basically what you're saying is avoid tree wells only to fall into a portal to third dimension


No, never said it. I do think the buddy system is the way to go anywhere off of regular grommed trails.
At Bachelor you must have a partner or more to use the backside when open. Trees don't start until way down there.

Anyway the OP asked about tree well, not fumarole's.
Dec 19 2018 9:47AM
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souljaboyfan2006
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The.FishI am going out to utah to ski the cottonwoods in a couple of weeks. Are tree wells a concern there because the snow has came gradually and not in one giant dunp like Whistler. I will be skiing alone unless somebody on here wants to meet up between the 27th and 29th


You'll probably fine, it hasn't been dumping a ton lately but then again it can't hurt to be careful. If you're gonna be at Alta at all I'd be down to catch some laps if you're chill with skiing with jerries who can barely 3 or flip
Dec 21 2018 2:11PM
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The.Fish
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danny420You'll probably fine, it hasn't been dumping a ton lately but then again it can't hurt to be careful. If you're gonna be at Alta at all I'd be down to catch some laps if you're chill with skiing with jerries who can barely 3 or flip


Sounds like my kind of skill level. Ill be there the 27th-29th
Dec 21 2018 2:13PM
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brian0
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so sad i didnt get to die in whistler, now im all misrable back in school.
Jan 17 2019 12:56PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Chawn2112so sad i didnt get to die in whistler, now im all misrable back in school.


/r/meirl
Jan 17 2019 12:57PM
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