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Cryptno
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Am I the only one that thinks there ass. I spent probably six runs switching from powder skis to park skis on a demo day and the only notable characteristics were just how stiff the tip and tail were. I don't mean in the sense that would be hard to butter more in the sense of the tip and tail bobbing up and down on groomers. I don't ski that much park but I have skied on twin tips for most of my time skiing and its not even close how much worse those on3ps felt. For context my favorite park ski ever was the original line honey badger.
Dec 9 2018 10:28PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Banstick?

I actually have no idea, haven't yet had a chance to ski their stuff, but you should probably zip up your flamesuit you heretic.
Dec 9 2018 10:39PM
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erica
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CryptnoAm I the only one that thinks they're ass.


yes
Dec 9 2018 10:52PM
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Cryptno
Posts: 176 - Karma: -11
ericayes



care to expand?
Dec 9 2018 10:58PM
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erica
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Cryptnocare to expand?


I don’t know which ON3Ps you rode, but bottom line is everything they make is going to be WAY different than a honey badger. If that’s what you’ve skied on, on3ps are going to take some time to get used to. Most of what you rode most likely had a much more aggressive rocker profile than the OG Honey Badger (which to my knowledge has an early rise profile) in addition to stiffer tip and tails.

On3p’s are made for durability, and in turn they’re much more on the aggressive/stiff spectrum than a playful park-specific ski. Hope that makes sense.
Dec 9 2018 11:24PM
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Rum_Ham
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What I took from this is your favorite ski is a full cap noodle and you haven't skied a stiff well built ski. Stiff skis with a ton of rocker aren't great on hard groomers, not sure what you expected but thats like complaining a trophy truck doesn't handle the daytona speed way well. Completely different intended purposes.
Dec 9 2018 11:59PM
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Session
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Cryptnomy favorite park ski ever was the original line honey badger.


Pretty much says it all right here. While you are welcome to your opinion, you are certainly in the minority.
Dec 10 2018 12:43AM
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f100prerunner
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Current owner of magnus’ and k108’s, IMO the bamboo core makes all of it, it’s awesome to have a ski that can charge through PNW crud and also be able to take a fun lap through the park. Further, first day out my k108s tagged a nasty rock pushing the sidewalk up and bending the edge, easy fix for a well made ski but absolutely no doubt it would’ve destroyed a cheaper ski.
Dec 10 2018 2:23AM
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Pilkbois
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On3p won't be for everyone.

But if your all time fave ski is the honey badger, your prob not going to enjoy pretty much everything that makes an on3p ski what it is.

E. G weight, feel, looks, rocker, etc
Dec 10 2018 2:28AM
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skiP.E.I.
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You're either trolling or you weigh 80 lbs.
Dec 10 2018 2:32AM
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HaydenB
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On3p’s are godly
Dec 10 2018 9:15AM
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TreewellMagnet
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What on3p skis/sizes did you try? And where did you try them? Ability level and what do you like to ski on the mountain? Weight, height?

I don't find my Kartels to be overly stiff, but they might be a bit more towards the charging side than say a Line blend. If you are having problems with them on good groomers they might be the wrong size?

Not a big deal if you didn't like them. The trick is to find something that you like.
What skis are you usually riding other than the honey badger?
Dec 10 2018 10:43AM
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Cryptno
Posts: 176 - Karma: -11
I'm sorry this just all sounds like marketing garbage. Sorry but I have skied racing skis so I don't know how much stiffer they could be and I have ski daily on powder skis with a ton of rocker and early rise. I have heard they use a thicker base and core so there more durable. They just felt Sketch, no matter how much pressure I applied they just felt squirmish. I'm not the most hardcore skier out there but I ski pretty hard and I just thought they were over built.
Dec 10 2018 11:42AM
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iggyskier
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CryptnoAm the tip and tail bobbing up and down on groomers.
CryptnoThey just felt Sketch, no matter how much pressure I applied they just felt squirmish.


As a general guideline - if the rocker sections of the skis are not engaging, the skis just aren't being driven enough. This could be for a variety of reasons (you are too light, skis are too long, style is very balanced, speeds are too slow, and so on). But if stiff skis (and I mean any skis, I don't find ours to be particularly stiff) are bobbing above the snow and they are squirmish (aka the skis have limited contact with the snow), they need to be skied more aggressively to engage. They are designed so that sections of the rocker are engaged as you drive and roll the ski over, so maybe that helps you diagnose similar issues in the future, outside of our skis just being ass.

Thanks for the feedback. Hope that helps the next time you might try a pair.
Dec 10 2018 1:26PM
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Park.
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I personally don't love ON3P's either, but god damn do I respect them. After touring their factory and being on their skis, They make a super legit product. I own a pair of BG's and been on a pair of Mag's, and I can definitely say that I like other skis significantly more, but they make skis that excel for what they are designed to do. They make skis the way they think skis should be made, and it really does show in every aspect, from quality to performance.

Not gona see me buying a pair of them, but if someone is asking what they should buy, ON3P has a good chance of being brought up.
Dec 10 2018 6:32PM
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Colingarnes
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CryptnoI have heard they use a thicker base and core so there more durable. They just felt Sketch, no matter how much pressure I applied they just felt squirmish. I'm not the most hardcore skier out there but I ski pretty hard and I just thought they were over built.


What you just said contradicts itself so damn hard.
Dec 11 2018 9:47AM
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Rum_Ham
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CryptnoI'm sorry this just all sounds like marketing garbage. Sorry but I have skied racing skis so I don't know how much stiffer they could be and I have ski daily on powder skis with a ton of rocker and early rise. I have heard they use a thicker base and core so there more durable. They just felt Sketch, no matter how much pressure I applied they just felt squirmish. I'm not the most hardcore skier out there but I ski pretty hard and I just thought they were over built.


Idk man kinda sounds like you suck at skiing
Dec 11 2018 12:56PM
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Woos
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Lol he likes Honey Badgers.
Dec 11 2018 1:03PM
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Pilkbois
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Just get some kartels, ski harder and become a normal human.
Dec 11 2018 1:10PM
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