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Most underrated, underpopulated (short lift lines) resorts?

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dolanslebensraum
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I think the stats of a mountain dont do it justice. The layout of a mountain is very important. My favorite mountain ive skied is copper. The union peak, union meadows, timberline loop you can ski all day long and not get bored. Union meadows is literally like 2 square miles (edit: actually id estimate it at closer to 4) of untouched routes where you can always find fresh powder. Its so asthetic being at such high altitude where the trees are nice and thin. Copper just has
Such a gorgeous layout, it doesnt make sense why they dont get the numbers breck keystone and vail pull in. I have heard on a busy day at breck you can wait in lift lines for half an hour or more. The longest ive ever waited in line at copper is about 5 minutes. It literally never gets that bad at copper. Why is copper still such an insider secret? I think if they can demolish all the old condos on the east side of the center village and continue/expand the swiss alpine village theme of the newer condos on the west side of the center village it will be just as pretty and scenic as any modern resort base.
Its such a great mountain I dont understand why development is so slow there. If they tore down all the pre 1990s condos and built new condos to connect center village all the way to east village, there would be a hoard of rich jet setters buying real estate and time shares in copper. Theres so much potential, especially considering the altitude would allow copper to stay open till june if the deep state government assholes would stop playing favorites with lower altitude resorts that turn to slushy mud after march. Resorts should be allowed to stay open as late as their snow coverage allows. The rich assholes in vail and aspen and park city can cry me a river about how their low altitude resorts where they own condos melt like butter once april comes around.

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Dec 4 2018 6:19PM
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Rum_Ham
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Not sure the point of broadcasting this on the internet. You're only gonna have more people coming to copper now.
Dec 4 2018 6:34PM
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dolanslebensraum
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Rum_HamNot sure the point of broadcasting this on the internet. You're only gonna have more people coming to copper now.

Copper needs more crowds, thats the thing. It would have to double or triple its attendance before lift lines became a problem. Copper is just such a perfect mountain layout. People with different abilities and tastes each have their favorite part(s) of the mountain they stick to. And the high altitude parts like union meadows and copper bowl have such deep pow on good snow years. I remember april of 2013 when copper got 3 feet of snow on the last weekend of the season. The mountain was completely empty and i skied for
6 hours without crossing more than a few tracks of other skiers. Vail and aspen and park city were melted to oblivion by then, but copper literally felt like it was in the deep depths of winter on an overcast day. This was the very end of april. Its sad that copper is such a great mountain with such huge potential but gets overshadowed by other resorts that arent even as good.

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Dec 4 2018 6:53PM
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SuspiciousFish
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Mt. Spokane is hands down the best underrated resort. Im actually half serious on that, its pretty legit for what it is.
Dec 4 2018 7:13PM
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dolanslebensraum
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SuspiciousFishMt. Spokane is hands down the best underrated resort. Im actually half serious on that, its pretty legit for what it is.

Whats so good about it?
Dec 7 2018 12:57PM
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everlast
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Troll in Quesnel, BC
Dec 7 2018 1:02PM
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postal_slime
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What happens to the people that call copper their home? When their cheap condos get taken over by “rich jet setters” and the cursed air bnb?

I’m sure your mountain will get it’s crowds eventually but enjoy it while it lasts.
Dec 7 2018 1:14PM
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dolanslebensraum
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zpr57What happens to the people that call copper their home? When their cheap condos get taken over by “rich jet setters” and the cursed air bnb?

I’m sure your mountain will get it’s crowds eventually but enjoy it while it lasts.


Building new condos isnt a problem, you either give current owners a fair price or a condo in the new development. Right now theres like
A dr jekyl and mr hyde thing is going on with coppers center village. The new half is gorgeous but the old half is pretty ragged looking. When copper has good snow it is better than breck key vail anywhere. Its just gotta modernize the east half of center village. One of the problems is there isnt a big enough vacationer crowd in copper. Like vacationers in breck have tons of people they run into at condo hot tubs/ restaurants/bars. The lack of vacationers at copper kind of makes you feel like youre missing out on something. Maybe some vacationers like that, but i imagine its not good for coppers bottom line. More people will attract more people.

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Dec 7 2018 1:30PM
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fghtoffyrdmns
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mt bachelor
Dec 7 2018 2:38PM
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PsychicMigration
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Magic Mountain, Vt
Dec 7 2018 3:03PM
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RousedWits
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SuspiciousFishMt. Spokane is hands down the best underrated resort. Im actually half serious on that, its pretty legit for what it is.

Mt. Spokane is legit, but If I'm going up to spokane, I might as well go to 49 north.. Lifts are slow, but I havent experienced too big of crowds there. Best part is most people there stick to the runs, so the trees are pretty much all untracked powder.
Dec 7 2018 4:33PM
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skiitsbetter
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Panorama on the rare powder days they get is awesome. Nobody expects it there, they go wait in the 30min lift lines in Fernie, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke or Whitewater instead.
Dec 7 2018 5:40PM
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creaturelo
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no one is in aspen and I've waited in a lift line maybe twice since living here- having everyone spread out among the 4 mountains is the best thing ever
Dec 7 2018 7:41PM
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Cryptno
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Loveland and crested Butte are the best out west. I don't like people Romanticising skiing but both of those mountains are a spiritual experience. The day I went to Loveland it was 50 degrees and no lift lines. It was a surreal experience getting up to 13k and not seeing anyone or anything. Mt Abraham's in Maine is really good too. From I had seen at the lodge it's the hill for all the kids who aren't pretentious enough to ski at Sunday River. Peak and peak is also severely underrated, IDK if it's because Holliday valley is closer but peak just has a way better vibe, nobody takes themselves to serious and the park is pretty good.
Dec 8 2018 12:29AM
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Southpaw_Skier
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Mad River Mountain in Ohio is a pretty chill place, for being a peak resort. My ski club goes there and it's a great place to take park laps and ride around the mountains with your buddies and have just an awesome time. The park crew seems like they enjoy what they are doing. For being in Ohio I enjoy the resort quite a bit.

If I am missing something about MRM let me know
Dec 8 2018 4:11PM
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SM1092
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DolanReloadedBuilding new condos isnt a problem, you either give current owners a fair price or a condo in the new development. Right now theres like
A dr jekyl and mr hyde thing going on with coppers center village. The new half is gorgeous but the old half is pretty ragged looking. When copper has good snow it is better than breck key vail anywhere. Its just gotta modernize the east half of center village. One of the problems is there isnt a big enough vacationer crowd in copper. Like vacationers in breck have tons of people they run into at condo hot tubs/ restaurants/bars. The lack of vacationers at copper kind of makes you feel like youre missing out on something. Maybe some vacationers like that, but i imagine its not good for coppers bottom line. More people will attract more people.


I think I get the point you're trying to make... but why would you want more crowds?
Dec 8 2018 5:39PM
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skiP.E.I.
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Marble, Newfoundland
Dec 8 2018 5:43PM
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The.Fish
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shadowman007Mad River Mountain in Ohio is a pretty chill place, for being a peak resort. My ski club goes there and it's a great place to take park laps and ride around the mountains with your buddies and have just an awesome time. The park crew seems like they enjoy what they are doing. For being in Ohio I enjoy the resort quite a bit.

If I am missing something about MRM let me know


It is in the absolute middle of no where so there are very few locals. The park has some really good features too.
Dec 8 2018 5:43PM
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dolanslebensraum
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SM1092I think I get the point you're trying to make... but why would you want more crowds?

I think it would be a more fun place if it had the kind of numbers breck or vail have. Breck and vail are like cities almost. Tons to do outside skiing. If copper had a coherent center village it would be a magnet for vacationers. The jetsetters seem to choose places that are trendy like aspen vail breck etc.. If copper was as well known then rich east coasters would flock there to buy condos and invest in new developments.

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Dec 9 2018 1:57AM
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The.Fish
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DolanReloadedI think it would be a more fun place if it had the kind of numbers breck or vail have. Breck and vail are like cities almost. Tons to do outside skiing. If copper had a coherent center village it would be a magnet for vacationers. The jetsetters seem to choose places that are trendy like aspen vail break etc.. If copper was as well known then rich east coasters would flock there to buy condos and invest in new developments.


Aspen is empty usually. Snowmass is somwhat crowded because it is massive and catered to families and tourists, but the rest of the resorts rarely have a line for a chair and have the better skiing a lot of the time.
Dec 9 2018 2:12AM
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WoFIowz
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Pretty sure every Frontier airline ticket comes as a buy one get one free ticket to copper, so basically 50% off for 2 days. Their base prices are off the chains, so prob why it's do dead considering there's other comparably priced places nearby. The fact that Frontier advertises them means millions of folks know about copper bud


Peek n peak is the shit
Dec 9 2018 2:30AM
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SuspiciousFish
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RousedWitsMt. Spokane is legit, but If I'm going up to spokane, I might as well go to 49 north.. Lifts are slow, but I havent experienced too big of crowds there. Best part is most people there stick to the runs, so the trees are pretty much all untracked powder.


I have heard good things about 49 north but personally have not skied there. We had a cabin up at Schweitzer so that was pretty much my home mountain growing up. Schweitzer back in the day was really fun back before they got bought out and now so many people live in Couer D alene its packed all the time. Pucci's Chutes is still the best steep as hell snowghost tree skiing in America in my opinion.
Dec 10 2018 11:23AM
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Woos
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Ten years ago I actually had a lot of fun lapping Norway's park (Norway, MI). They had a towrope, decent boxes, a couple of okay tubes, picnic tables, and a couple of okay jumps. Sadly not much for rails.

What made it awesome was the fact that you could lap it quickly and hardly anyone else was ever in it. Hence why they have shut down and reopened like 30 times.
Dec 10 2018 2:01PM
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CalumSKI
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Ik jay isnt undefeated but it is my favorite mountain ever
The vibes are dope and the hill has some really sick runs and stuff
Love it
Dec 10 2018 5:35PM
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Sharko
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I've got a favorite. Great terrain, nice people, good home cooking, no crowds even on Saturday. So obviously I'm not going to share where it is.
Dec 10 2018 9:28PM
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dolanslebensraum
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The.FishAspen is empty usually. Snowmass is somwhat crowded because it is massive and catered to families and tourists, but the rest of the resorts rarely have a line for a chair and have the better skiing a lot of the time.


Snowmass is the best of the 4 but i agree there are literally no people at ajax or highland even though they are great mountains. I think the filthy rich people who live around aspen only ski during their occasional drug binges.
Dec 10 2018 9:39PM
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oldworld_newlife
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Whitecap Wisconsin is mini west skiing. Minimal grooming and natty hits
Dec 11 2018 6:22PM
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chrispyminis
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Mount Washington on Vancouver Island is pretty sick
Dec 11 2018 11:39PM
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aidanaughton
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I mean I have my places, but it wouldn't be to cool of me to spread the word.
Dec 12 2018 9:37PM
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Lokdog
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skiitsbetterPanorama on the rare powder days they get is awesome. Nobody expects it there, they go wait in the 30min lift lines in Fernie, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke or Whitewater instead.


When as anyone ever waited half an hour in a lift line at whitewater?? 25cms of fresh last night and ski onto the chair
Dec 12 2018 10:10PM
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lmmcc
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I heard Vail was pretty underrated
Dec 13 2018 1:22AM
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