2 out help forum

can you post a video?

Evantheshredsteralright, so i'm trying to nail my 270 out and i need some pointers. I've landed them super sketchy off of a propane tank rail but i'm tryna learn them on a flatbar/handrail. Also some help on front swaps and back swaps would be sick.

Some general advice that I would give is to start pressuring your edge against the side of the rail before spinning (spinning right, press your edge on the right side before spinning).

Also, the lower you squat on the rail before you spin, the more room you have to pop off.

Finally, turn your head to follow your shoulder when you are spinning

SofaKingSickcan you post a video?

i dont have footy of it right now, but if it snows this week i'll set up my backyard. maybe i'll get a vid up by this weekend

Evantheshredsteri dont have footy of it right now, but if it snows this week i'll set up my backyard. maybe i'll get a vid up by this weekend

cool--- that's easily the best way for us to see what we can advise you to do so def upload a video if you can

anyway, i feel like i see beginners not nailing 2s out mostly just because they think it has to be more precise than it really does. practice edging into the rail a bit with your front foot (which is a good thing to master on rails, period) so that you have something to push against. then, just pop and spin out that way. don't worry about your skis lining up perfectly straight on the landing, that won't be an issue, just be loosey goosey besides a flexed core (again, useful advice in tons of skiing moves) and spin with your whole body. as soon as you get 180* of the spin around youre fine-- you can wash out the landing if need be

also BEND/PICK UP YOUR KNEES. that's another general purpose tip on anything involving rails pretty much

this thread (and others you can find by googling site:newschoolers.com) might be helpful in the meantime as well

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/851286/Help-with-front-2-out-

Get your momentum for spinning before you pop. Don’t start spinning once you’re already in the air because that’s impossible

You will keep clipping your tail over and over again. Then you will start to land on your face since you hop off axis. This causes you to break a brake. THEN you will figure it out. Just speaking from experience.

Dunno which way you're spinning, but make sure to look where you're spinning with your head. Your body should follow if you're setting the spin off of the rail right.

Either way, for setting your spin you'll need to press down with your toe on the rail to push yourself into the spin.

For a blind 2, it looks like a much less exaggerated version of this:

For a front 2, it'll be your trailing toe that does the work. Once you set the spin that way, POP off the rail. Seriously, jump and you'll have a way better time. Then, lead the spin with your head - your body should follow. This means for blind 2, you're trying to crane your neck to spot your landing downhill. For front 2, you'll be trying to look back up at the rail. Tuck your knees up a bit, and when the time comes, deploy that landing gear with confidence.

For swaps, these exact same tips apply. All I did to learn them (both front and back variants) was start my 2 out way early so I was juuuust barely catching the end of the rail at the 180 point. Then start them earlier and earlier on the rail, and bam, u swappin' now boi.

**This post was edited on Nov 26th 2018 at 8:49:13pm

**This post was edited on Nov 26th 2018 at 8:50:46pm

In my experience, blind 270 out of rails are easier to land than front 2s, just do what the person above said and you should get them pretty quickly.

Just gotta scissor ur skis on the rail takes a bit of practice but once u get it it's super easy

1. Hop on
2. Stay balanced, dip in
2. Scissor hard
3. Finish having lesbian sex then Go to the ski hill and do a 2 out

Front 2's are easier because you never go blind. I recommend doing them on a tube rail first -- not too wide -- look to drop that front inside edge and force yourself to land backward as hard as you can. Another tip is I can give is to try to set that momentum before you jump and turn your body. If you just pedal and then jump to spin the opposite direction you will need a lot more energy and the trick will look jerkier. If you're already rotating while on the rail it'll come more naturally and it will 'feel' more like a 180 then a 270.

Look at the end of the rail the whole time. Itll help you stay balanced and centered