4frnt Devastator 184 or 194

Where did you mount the 184s?

im 6'3 and 165ish lbs and ride a 193 everyday, couldnt imagine trying to ride pow on something shorter. havent ridden the devastator itself but id imagine they would sacrifice some maneuverability from the 184 to 194, but id definitely go with 194

Rum_HamWhere did you mount the 184s?

On the recommended line.

amccahill93im 6'3 and 165ish lbs and ride a 193 everyday, couldnt imagine trying to ride pow on something shorter. havent ridden the devastator itself but id imagine they would sacrifice some maneuverability from the 184 to 194, but id definitely go with 194

Also my home mountains are Alta and Brighton UT

so, youre right between the two sizes based on height, but youre a pretty big dude which noses your toward the higher size a little

youre going to have to go with your gut, but is the plan to use both sets of skis? if so, maybe just find something different than the 194 and commit to it being a big day/pow day ski while the 184 is your more every day ski. having and using both a 184 and 194 dev seems like too much overlap to me (but people do similar things so who knows)

if this is going to replace the ski entirely, disregard what i said and go with your gut. everything is a compromise but keep in mind that we skiers have a tendency to make mountains out of molehills with this stuff. either way you're right near the exact right size and itll be fine.

i think if you are feeling so strongly about this that you want to buy another pair of the same model ski, then it sounds like you do want the bigger size and won't have much of an issue with the downsides of it. also the devs are kinda do-it-alls but you didnt mention any interests like park skiing that would make those extra 4cm an issue at all... if youre mostly blasting around alta and shit and trees are the biggest aspect of your skiing that desires shorter skis, i dont think that's a huge concern and you'll be happy with the 194s

am i on the right track here?

when in doubt go longer

If you decide to drop the 184s let me know

SofaKingSickso, youre right between the two sizes based on height, but youre a pretty big dude which noses your toward the higher size a little

youre going to have to go with your gut, but is the plan to use both sets of skis? if so, maybe just find something different than the 194 and commit to it being a big day/pow day ski while the 184 is your more every day ski. having and using both a 184 and 194 dev seems like too much overlap to me (but people do similar things so who knows)

if this is going to replace the ski entirely, disregard what i said and go with your gut. everything is a compromise but keep in mind that we skiers have a tendency to make mountains out of molehills with this stuff. either way you're right near the exact right size and itll be fine.

i think if you are feeling so strongly about this that you want to buy another pair of the same model ski, then it sounds like you do want the bigger size and won't have much of an issue with the downsides of it. also the devs are kinda do-it-alls but you didnt mention any interests like park skiing that would make those extra 4cm an issue at all... if youre mostly blasting around alta and shit and trees are the biggest aspect of your skiing that desires shorter skis, i dont think that's a huge concern and you'll be happy with the 194s

am i on the right track here?

^^^what he said, sounds like you should keep the 184s because you like them and get another ski for powder. Grow the quiver don’t look back

SkiGingerAlso my home mountains are Alta and Brighton UT

Go with the 194. The stability at speed and float you get is worth what you're losing in maneuverability.

SofaKingSickso, youre right between the two sizes based on height, but youre a pretty big dude which noses your toward the higher size a little

youre going to have to go with your gut, but is the plan to use both sets of skis? if so, maybe just find something different than the 194 and commit to it being a big day/pow day ski while the 184 is your more every day ski. having and using both a 184 and 194 dev seems like too much overlap to me (but people do similar things so who knows)

if this is going to replace the ski entirely, disregard what i said and go with your gut. everything is a compromise but keep in mind that we skiers have a tendency to make mountains out of molehills with this stuff. either way you're right near the exact right size and itll be fine.

i think if you are feeling so strongly about this that you want to buy another pair of the same model ski, then it sounds like you do want the bigger size and won't have much of an issue with the downsides of it. also the devs are kinda do-it-alls but you didnt mention any interests like park skiing that would make those extra 4cm an issue at all... if youre mostly blasting around alta and shit and trees are the biggest aspect of your skiing that desires shorter skis, i dont think that's a huge concern and you'll be happy with the 194s

am i on the right track here?

Yes definitely on the right track. I definitely don’t wanna keep both, I’m just seeing if the 194 would be able to be the daily driver like my 184 is, but still be able to manage the manueverability in trees and natural features of Alta while helping more so in the powder as well. I don’t go in the park anymore at all, I just stick with the natural stuff all over, which is why I love the devs so much because they are a do-it-all. I’m not concerned with the weight difference (184s~2300g vs 194s~2700g), unless it’s going to totally destroy my quickness (this is why I dont skip leg day haha). The swing weight will be different obviously, but if it’s not a huge difference then I’m good to go bigger because of the reverse camber profile on the ski allows it to pivot like a frisbee. I just wanted to see what peeps who have ridden the 194 if they had trouble ripping it around literally EVERYWHERE besides the park like I can with my 184s.

SkiGingerYes definitely on the right track. I definitely don’t wanna keep both, I’m just seeing if the 194 would be able to be the daily driver like my 184 is, but still be able to manage the manueverability in trees and natural features of Alta while helping more so in the powder as well. I don’t go in the park anymore at all, I just stick with the natural stuff all over, which is why I love the devs so much because they are a do-it-all. I’m not concerned with the weight difference (184s~2300g vs 194s~2700g), unless it’s going to totally destroy my quickness (this is why I dont skip leg day haha). The swing weight will be different obviously, but if it’s not a huge difference then I’m good to go bigger because of the reverse camber profile on the ski allows it to pivot like a frisbee. I just wanted to see what peeps who have ridden the 194 if they had trouble ripping it around literally EVERYWHERE besides the park like I can with my 184s.

i hear ya on wanting to get word from people who have skied the 194 dev! maybe these will help

http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2017-2018-4frnt-devastator (good amount of 184 vs 194 discussion, and blister gear review is legit)

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/319480-Dear-4FRNT-189-Devastator-Please

on the blister one i'd def suggest you read all 3 pages and maybe even the comment section and/or any relevant links the review offers. from my glance at it it looks like they really get into the size discussion

do keep in mind, you are right between these two sizes in height but weight wise you are not

SofaKingSickon the blister one i'd def suggest you read all 3 pages and maybe even the comment section and/or any relevant links the review offers. from my glance at it it looks like they really get into the size discussion

do keep in mind, you are right between these two sizes in height but weight wise you are not

Thanks bro for the Teton link, I hadn’t seen that one before! I find more conflict the more I read haha so you are def right just to go with my gut and I will be good either way.

SkiGingerThanks bro for the Teton link, I hadn’t seen that one before! I find more conflict the more I read haha so you are def right just to go with my gut and I will be good either way.

yeah man, it's worth poring over to some degree but once you've decided...NEVER LOOK BACK haha

I'm 5'11" 170lbs and ride the 194 devastator -2cm from true center in Utah. It's not my daily driver, but with your height/weight i think you could make it work. If you're not used to a bigger/heavier ski it could be a little overkill for hard pack days, but plenty of people use it as a DD. I'd say go for the 194 or as a previous poster suggested, get a longer pow ski to accompany your 184. Let me know if you have any other questions and ill check back.