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BigPurpleSkiSuitI just dont want the vail crowds in salt lake. Although the ikon pass is going to bring then here anyway but I feel like ikon pass isnt as popular as vail yet.
theabortionatorPeople have been bitching about vail forever about everything. It's not creative and it's boring.
We get it, something something corporations. A ton of mtns are corporate or conglomerates. A ton of mtns charge $$$ for food etc. Idk. Ive worked at the smallest and biggest places. Everything has it's perks. People have different preference but "liek omg i hate vail" was played a decade ago.
Now go occupy wallstreet or something.
crisscrosswell i can b a lil dissapointed with vail for buying northstar cuz ever since then the parks has been lowkey shitty compared to what it used to be. But at the same time they have like breck and shit, so i mean i have mixed opinions.
SkiBum.I could give a laundry list of why Vail Sucks and why Vail is awesome but that’s beating a dead horse.
I bought an Icon pass. I’m a weekend skier and travel. I live in Park City and don’t want to ski Vail owned. So best pass for me.
harambe420Yea I get ya, I just kinda wanted to share my experience of being at Vail. I honestly don't even know if Vail owned resorts are the same, but I can say if they are anything like Vail, I am not interested in giving them any of my money. I just moved to Minnesota so I'm pretty stoked on riding a good park all day and even night I think.
Rum_HamI dislike that they ruin local mountain cultures though and put yellowjackets everywhere but this is the price we pay for access and relatively cheap season passes.
aleclawrenceeThe only real problem I have with vail is in most cases they get rid of most cool grass root events at mountains which kinda sucks
toastThis one depends - Some mountains can keep most autonomy over their operations. e.g. A Basin has been on Vail passes a while but I'm pretty sure they're not owned outright by Vail, no yellow jackets, etc. With the Ikon pass, Ikon doesn't own the mtns like Vail so those mountains will hopefully maintain their independence while also benefitting from a broadened market.
BigPurpleSkiSuitAlso fuck yellow jackets.
FullSendBudWhat the fuck are yellow jackets. The ski police??? Bees???
SkiBum.Vail’s blueprint is very similar at all Vail owned resorts. If you dropped Joe from Texas in the middle of a Vail owned resort he would have a hard time telling you if it was Park City, Breckenridge, Northstar. They have even copied restaurant layouts and designs from resort to resort. Boring, yes. Profitable and smart, yes. Take away all feel from a resort, yes.
Rum_HamYup ski police. They only seem to go after good skiers who are in control but going fast instead of gapers tucking down a crowded run.
SkiBum.They “take away” stuff that doesn’t make money, doesn’t fit their portfolio or isn’t a partner or sponsor of them.
Example - team riders/skiers. All of Vail maybe has 3-5 paid athletes.
Example - Starbucks. No local coffee, Starbucks brand and signs at all coffee locations.
The Vail resort in my backyard seems to still have concerts, beer gardens, stuff like that.
J_Steezfrom personal experience, when vail purchased stowe all the parks declined in quality majorly.
SkiBum.That’s because no one goes to Stowe to ski park
SkiBum.That’s because no one goes to Stowe to ski park
J_SteezI personally know many kids who not only grew up skiing park at Stowe but still ski there for park. They literally have a freeskiing academy there: "Skifuture" where Ian Compton was a coach.
