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Big mountain like Candide is definitely close to maxed out. In that IG clip if his skis popped off he wouldve gotten FUCKED up. Great example of having a high din since losing a ski more dangerous than not tearing something there.
For Park I see 12-16 from guys that full send. Everyone is different though. I bet Wallisch rides a lower din to protect his knee but thats not really stopping him from fucking shit up
All depends on the skier, but you might be surprised that many "big name pros" ride their DINs at a reasonable setting, maxing out your bindings is something you should never do.
eheathAll depends on the skier, but you might be surprised that many "big name pros" ride their DINs at a reasonable setting, maxing out your bindings is something you should never do.
All the better anyway to not concern yourself with what they run cause being good at skiing doesn't exactly guarantee you're a genius...so I wouldn't advise considering their DINs when setting your own even if you're a crazy good skier
Din isn't something you just keep turning up the better you get, it's just reckless to ride at anything above the lowest setting where you don't pop out unintentionally
chicknfriedsteakDin isn't something you just keep turning up the better you get, it's just reckless to ride at anything above the lowest setting where you don't pop out unintentionally
Actually the only reason DIN exists is so 14 year olds in the lift line can say "what's your din set at? I put mine at 12".
eheathAll depends on the skier, but you might be surprised that many "big name pros" ride their DINs at a reasonable setting, maxing out your bindings is something you should never do.
"But the only way I'm gonna get better in the park is if I max out my Pivot 18's!"
- everyone who should be at a 10
GarFrom09I have always wondered what the pros keep there din set at , does anyone know?
Ha ha! You funny! Set this at level 3+ , 175-200 lbs.,'5"6-'5"10, Age 10-49, Boot sole length 291-310 and see.
Seems way to high unless your okay with breaking your leg!
eheathAll depends on the skier, but you might be surprised that many "big name pros" ride their DINs at a reasonable setting, maxing out your bindings is something you should never do.
DominatorJacquesHa ha! You funny! Set this at level 3+ , 175-200 lbs.,'5"6-'5"10, Age 10-49, Boot sole length 291-310 and see.
Seems way to high unless your okay with breaking your leg!
I would constantly eject from my fks 180's at 10. With the white piece of plastic at the fp line, the heel piece wouldn't always lock over the heel of my boot so I turned it up a little bit. I ride at 12 but know someone who would eject at 13 every time he grabbed mute, and even ejected once from tweaking a safety. This dude is like 6 feet and ~200 hucking dubs so if you're not going balls to the walls, and are ejecting with your dins at or higher than the recommended for your height and weight, then you should probably take your gear to a ski tech. Also never skip leg day.
Pretty recently, someone I know broke his ankle on an airbag and his ski didn't eject, because his bindings had too much dirt and sand. Probably a good idea to clean and grease your bindings annually.
SofaKingSickIt varies wildly, OP. All over the map.
All the better anyway to not concern yourself with what they run cause being good at skiing doesn't exactly guarantee you're a genius...so I wouldn't advise considering their DINs when setting your own even if you're a crazy good skier
Yes just curious, i run mine as low as i can go withought ejecting unnecessarily
finderI would constantly eject from my fks 180's at 10. With the white piece of plastic at the fp line, the heel piece wouldn't always lock over the heel of my boot so I turned it up a little bit. I ride at 12 but know someone who would eject at 13 every time he grabbed mute, and even ejected once from tweaking a safety.
If you're ejecting when grabbing, its because you need to adjust your bindings, mostly likely forward pressure, which on fks/p18s is a bit tricky to get right if you don't know what you're doing.
eheathIf you're ejecting when grabbing, its because you need to adjust your bindings, mostly likely forward pressure, which on fks/p18s is a bit tricky to get right if you don't know what you're doing.
I know, what was saying is that the foreward pressure line that look recommends is often incorrect, and more is required, My bindings could release by shaking my leg in the air when it was at the recommended line. I now have it a couple of mm vehind the line and it has since only ejected in situations that I believe not ejecting would have resulted in something breaking or tearing.
I'm fairly suspicious that the fp issue is caused by the lack of an adjustable afd, because a worn down boot toe can potentially slide around, where a marker or Tyrolia binding can adjust to get a snug fit in the toe. This does not bother me personally, as my boots have replaceable soles, but can empathize with the guy that stuffs cardboard or duct tape on their pivot/fks 18, likely having an inverse result by increasing friction and not letting the boot release when absolutely necessary.
This is mostly speculation, as I am not a certified ski tech, nor do I recommend cranking up your foreword pressure because your bindings eject more than you think. Going to a ski shop and consulting a tech is generally the best solution.
finderI know, what was saying is that the foreward pressure line that look recommends is often incorrect, and more is required, My bindings could release by shaking my leg in the air when it was at the recommended line. I now have it a couple of mm vehind the line and it has since only ejected in situations that I believe not ejecting would have resulted in something breaking or tearing.
I'm fairly suspicious that the fp issue is caused by the lack of an adjustable afd, because a worn down boot toe can potentially slide around, where a marker or Tyrolia binding can adjust to get a snug fit in the toe. This does not bother me personally, as my boots have replaceable soles, but can empathize with the guy that stuffs cardboard or duct tape on their pivot/fks 18, likely having an inverse result by increasing friction and not letting the boot release when absolutely necessary.
This is mostly speculation, as I am not a certified ski tech, nor do I recommend cranking up your foreword pressure because your bindings eject more than you think. Going to a ski shop and consulting a tech is generally the best solution.
If your bindings are loose, adjusting your din will do absolutely nothing except cause injury. If your bindings are adjusted property (and your boots aren't 10 yrs old) then you will feel solid. Also, anyone putting duct tape or cardboard in place of an afd or boot soles is a moron.
eheathIf your bindings are loose, adjusting your din will do absolutely nothing except cause injury. If your bindings are adjusted property (and your boots aren't 10 yrs old) then you will feel solid. Also, anyone putting duct tape or cardboard in place of an afd or boot soles is a moron.
I never said crank the dins when your boot is loose. For instance, my heel piece wouldn't even fully lock over the heel of my brand new Dalbello Il Moro's unless I pulled the heel piece up so that the it would not snap without my heel actually secured. When I locked in by pulling the heel piece with my hand to get it to lock over my boot, the white fp thing was right on the rec line. There wasn't necessarily play in it when clicked in, but the second I put pressure to blind swap on a tube, I ejected out of my front ski. I then incrementally tightened the foreword pressure until it locked normally without me having to pull up on the heel piece. I'm getting some boot work done at my local ski shop and will have them test my bindings just to be on the safe side.
I absolutely DO NOT recommend turning your dins up unless you have a complete understanding as to why you are ejecting, and accept the risks associated with your bindings requiring more force to release. Ski techs won't set your dins to 14 when mounting unless you sign a waver for a good reason.
finderI never said crank the dins when your boot is loose. For instance, my heel piece wouldn't even fully lock over the heel of my brand new Dalbello Il Moro's unless I pulled the heel piece up so that the it would not snap without my heel actually secured. When I locked in by pulling the heel piece with my hand to get it to lock over my boot, the white fp thing was right on the rec line.
Yeah when fks/p18 stop clicking in its either because the springs are shot or your boot heel is fucked.
As for forward pressure, the recommended line only matters if your boots are mounted perfect, the line isn't always going to be the right place.
eheathYeah when fks/p18 stop clicking in its either because the springs are shot or your boot heel is fucked.
As for forward pressure, the recommended line only matters if your boots are mounted perfect, the line isn't always going to be the right place.
That makes sense. Thing is, this was when both boots and bindings were brand new in 2016, but they have held up seemingly fine. Maybe it was due to too much grease causing it to snap quickly enough that it goes all the way before the heel is fully down? Maybe I'l set them to the fp line and do a test now that they've had plenty of time to be broken in.
finderThat makes sense. Thing is, this was when both boots and bindings were brand new in 2016, but they have held up seemingly fine. Maybe it was due to too much grease causing it to snap quickly enough that it goes all the way before the heel is fully down? Maybe I'l set them to the fp line and do a test now that they've had plenty of time to be broken in.
Yeah fks/p18 can be a bitch to adjust, I luckily have had some homies who are real good at adjusting them and I've learned a bit, but I still get lost sometimes. If youre really struggling getting them perfect, hit up your local shop they can help you for sure.
Curiosity question: I believe its Delorme's 'Walk in the Park' edit he seemingly breaks a binding (?) and then to fix it he stacks a bunch of cardboard under his boot before he steps in again. Someone want to explain whats going on here? Im pretty sure Ive seen this question on here before and people said it was to help him go faster? What/why does this happen? Always thought it was so badass regardless of the reason
DominatorJacquesIt's not a pre-release. It's because technique was wrong. An edge catch. When one does it right and clean, you don't catch an edge!
When you are truly the shit you don't need super high DIN settings!
Definitely seemed like he was coming out when he expected them to stay on. As TCurle said they are set to a 17. He won Olympic gold so I’d say he is truly the shit and still rocking a high din.
GrandThingsCuriosity question: I believe its Delorme's 'Walk in the Park' edit he seemingly breaks a binding (?) and then to fix it he stacks a bunch of cardboard under his boot before he steps in again. Someone want to explain whats going on here? Im pretty sure Ive seen this question on here before and people said it was to help him go faster? What/why does this happen? Always thought it was so badass regardless of the reason
Probably broke a brake. On a lot of bindings, without the brake, your heal would have a lot of play. Or an anti friction plate broke off. Just guessing.
For the homies talking about Pivots/FKS's: I had a lot of trouble ejecting with my pivots, which I suspect is from the shop I got them mounted at mounting them a little too far apart. I ended up having to crank my forward pressure until I got it right. Heard from a mate at Whistler (career bootfitter, so I trust his opinion) that the line on the forward pressure basically means squat and he'd heard from Rossignol that you should be tightening the forward pressure to the individual skier/binding/ski/boot for safety and only using the line as a guide to first set them up.
I'm 185cm, ~80kg (or at least I was last season, which is 6'1 175lbs for Americans), and I run my FKS's at about 10, and I still sometimes eject on hard nosebutters (which sucks) or even just landing nose heavy switch (which I'm fine with), but adjusting the forward pressure myself was a lifesaver.
I'm really not sure what the point of this video is. This man in no way has better technique than David Wise (if technique is what you're trying to show). David, and I would bet most half pipe skiers, would want a higher din because of the amount of lateral force that they're exerting on the binding when they pump the transition and land.
JWillySkeezI'm really not sure what the point of this video is. This man in no way has better technique than David Wise (if technique is what you're trying to show). David, and I would bet most half pipe skiers, would want a higher din because of the amount of lateral force that they're exerting on the binding when they pump the transition and land.
I could be wrong though I certainly don't ski on that level so take my speculation with a grain of salt.
JWillySkeezI'm really not sure what the point of this video is. This man in no way has better technique than David Wise (if technique is what you're trying to show). David, and I would bet most half pipe skiers, would want a higher din because of the amount of lateral force that they're exerting on the binding when they pump the transition and land.
The point is that an edge catch caused the ski to release before it broke his leg. Landing was not perfect.
Has nothing to do with how great the guy was. Just an example to consider.
DominatorJacquesThe point is that an edge catch caused the ski to release before it broke his leg. Landing was not perfect.
Has nothing to do with how great the guy was. Just an example to consider.
When I saw it it looked like he landed on the proper inside and outside edges for the direction he was trying to go but the forces were just so high from how big he was going that he ejected.
Rum_HamWhen I saw it it looked like he landed on the proper inside and outside edges for the direction he was trying to go but the forces were just so high from how big he was going that he ejected.
Look again. Edge catch from not being perfect landing, or a millisecond after landing. https://youtu.be/yb6HqQC7rtc?t=102
If the ski did not release, it could have been ugly as the velocity was high.
DominatorJacquesLook again. Edge catch from not being perfect landing, or a millisecond after landing. https://youtu.be/yb6HqQC7rtc?t=102
If the ski did not release, it could have been ugly as the velocity was high.
This isn't David Wise's run and a completely different type and level of skiing. I don't see how this applies.
