New bindings/boot

Seems kinda dumb to me. Wouldn't you have to get new bindings for your pow skis if you bought WTR boots? I don't think I'd spend money for something that's just designed to improve my performance walking in the parking lot.

OregonDeadSeems kinda dumb to me. Wouldn't you have to get new bindings for your pow skis if you bought WTR boots? I don't think I'd spend money for something that's just designed to improve my performance walking in the parking lot.

It's kind of meant to improve performance on bootpacks and rocky traverses. I'm sort of in the same boat as OP, I'm looking to mount the shift on a new pair of skis and I have the non-AT attacks on my other skis. I think I'm going to swap boot soles when swapping skis at least for the time being.

Don't the pivot dual work with both?

mystery3It's kind of meant to improve performance on bootpacks and rocky traverses. I'm sort of in the same boat as OP, I'm looking to mount the shift on a new pair of skis and I have the non-AT attacks on my other skis. I think I'm going to swap boot soles when swapping skis at least for the time being.

Don't the pivot dual work with both?

WTR is different than regular AT boots. Seems like it's more for people that hang around the base area in their boots than for mountaineers. The ISO 9523 boots look more like they're designed for hiking on rocks etc.

If I were to get a lighter boot for the uphill I'd get one of the ISO 9523 boots and then if I wanted could use them with my wardens or another MNC binder for inbounds set ups. Right now I have the Pinnacle 130 boot which has tech inserts and a regular alpine norm sole so I can use any binding. It's a heavy boot though so I've been thinking about this ..

OregonDeadWTR is different than regular AT boots. Seems like it's more for people that hang around the base area in their boots than for mountaineers. The ISO 9523 boots look more like they're designed for hiking on rocks etc.

If I were to get a lighter boot for the uphill I'd get one of the ISO 9523 boots and then if I wanted could use them with my wardens or another MNC binder for inbounds set ups. Right now I have the Pinnacle 130 boot which has tech inserts and a regular alpine norm sole so I can use any binding. It's a heavy boot though so I've been thinking about this ..

I didn't realize they made a boot that has tech inserts that isn't WTR. Thanks for the help!

CLQI didn't realize they made a boot that has tech inserts that isn't WTR. Thanks for the help!

I don't think I know this either. I have Salomon boots and the soles with the tech inserts are rockered and rubber. I need to do more research, I thought all the WTR boots were like that but not the GripWalk?

CLQI didn't realize they made a boot that has tech inserts that isn't WTR. Thanks for the help!

You can also get tech inserts added to any alpine boot. https://casttouring.com/products/ski-boot-conversion

OregonDeadYou can also get tech inserts added to any alpine boot. https://casttouring.com/products/ski-boot-conversion

Yeah I was looking into that. I have the old STH CAST but just can't justify paying an extra $200 for something that i'll probably use twice a season.

CLQIs it worth it to get a WTR boot and binding? It seems kinda fucking dumb but I want to know what you guys think. I already have non-wtr pivots on my powder ski. Getting new bindings for my Kartel 108s.

If you get a binding that is labeled as "WTR" it also accommodates the Alpine Norm 5355. An STH2 binding is an example of this.

If you get a binding that is labeled as "MNC", it will accommodate WTR, Grip Walk, Alpine, and Touring. A Warden binding is an example of this.

A WTR boot sole follows the dimensions set by the normal Touring Norm 9523. The only difference between WTR and 9523 is that WTR has plastic AFD interfaces that match the binding AFD whereas 9523 is full rubber. These AFDs add some safer release characteristics, but are mainly there to provide better power transfer from the boot to the binding. Full rubber 9523 soles will squish and move slightly while skiing, a WTR boot will behave like an alpine boot in this regard.