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BigPurpleSkiSuit>Member since 2013
TOAST.Oh shit a decent member, havnt seen one of them in a long time.
JAHpowOh hi there, bring back some other old timers while you're at it
Lieutenant_Dan1 watch yo disrespek u ain’t even og so y u false clamin wen u Ben hear fo 5 year
2 this site went to shit wit Pc ass mods who bee censorin reel skreet knowledge n info of liberrty n freedum. NS is a corporate finesse yo ass fo money site n look at all deez bs ads since we greedy
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ArabianAt first I thought it was Lil_G, but this just seems to be another white kid. I can't tell if he's fooling though. Got my hopes up/Very disappointed.
4/10
I don't think it's the Mods' fault. You not being able to drop the n-word in public really wouldn't drive people away. I imagine it's just the format that's gotten stale. Either way, RIP and I'm glad I was here for long enough. Still wish i could get my old account back though.
ArabianAt first I thought it was Lil_G, but this just seems to be another white kid. I can't tell if he's fooling though. Got my hopes up/Very disappointed.
4/10
I don't think it's the Mods' fault. You not being able to drop the n-word in public really wouldn't drive people away. I imagine it's just the format that's gotten stale. Either way, RIP and I'm glad I was here for long enough. Still wish i could get my old account back though.
ArabianAt first I thought it was Lil_G, but this just seems to be another white kid. I can't tell if he's fooling though. Got my hopes up/Very disappointed.
4/10
I don't think it's the Mods' fault. You not being able to drop the n-word in public really wouldn't drive people away. I imagine it's just the format that's gotten stale. Either way, RIP and I'm glad I was here for long enough. Still wish i could get my old account back though.
TRVP_ANGELOP I remember you, you are like a pure maths and haskell (lul) person. I remember there was like a craze for topology due to its implication in neural network gradient descent and financial enginering on all those option greek surfaces, etc but idk where all that went.
Can you convince me why i should learn functional programming over bashing away at my python code
**This post was edited on Aug 18th 2018 at 12:40:48am
ArabianYup, that's me :)
I'm not sure about the whole Finance thing - I switched focus to homotopical algebra so I could learn homotopy type theory and infinity-category theory, so I effectively left the applied sector entirely in doing so.
Functional programming is eminently useful when you consider its true definition. It's true definition is this: "Functional programming is a paradigm that has pure functions as its only primitives, and values referential transparency above anything else."
Why is this useful? Because pure functions are simply mathematical functions. Mathematical functions support equational reasoning - code that is subject to automatic inference and checking, and can be used to validate a program prior to running it. I've found that this is immensely useful for efficiency, business cost, and code quality, at the cost of uptime to learning what primitives I need to know (Functors, Monads, Lenses, etc.). This definition also implies immutability, and generally languages built on a well-defined term algebra like λ- or κ-calculus, are well understood, and have almost a century of theory backing calculus with both the core algebra and extensions to it. A type system is secondary to this, but usually included. Types, as I'm sure most are aware now, are also useful in the same vein. A type system can gaurantee things like Turing Incompleteness, recursion schemes are well-founded (terminating), and can immediately reduce a developer's workload by gauranteeing laws regarding their code (e.g. free theorems).
In a language like Python (and other languages like it), you lose pure functions and a strong type system. You now defer to ad hoc language trivia to construct your language, as opposed to a foundational theory, and it becomes much more burdensome over the long run as language features are introduced. If I know lambda calculus and type theory, i know every pure and logical functional progrmaming language. If i know python, I know python. There's nothing wrong with that, but basing a career on it will surely stunt your knowledge of programming, as well as your career prospects and ability.
And for the record, I am using haskell to build a language with embedded formal verification (Z3) right now as a job. And I write a little python too ;)
ArabianYup, that's me :)
I'm not sure about the whole Finance thing - I switched focus to homotopical algebra so I could learn homotopy type theory and infinity-category theory, so I effectively left the applied sector entirely in doing so.
Functional programming is eminently useful when you consider its true definition. It's true definition is this: "Functional programming is a paradigm that has pure functions as its only primitives, and values referential transparency above anything else."
Why is this useful? Because pure functions are simply mathematical functions. Mathematical functions support equational reasoning - code that is subject to automatic inference and checking, and can be used to validate a program prior to running it. I've found that this is immensely useful for efficiency, business cost, and code quality, at the cost of uptime to learning what primitives I need to know (Functors, Monads, Lenses, etc.). This definition also implies immutability, and generally languages built on a well-defined term algebra like λ- or κ-calculus, are well understood, and have almost a century of theory backing calculus with both the core algebra and extensions to it. A type system is secondary to this, but usually included. Types, as I'm sure most are aware now, are also useful in the same vein. A type system can gaurantee things like Turing Incompleteness, recursion schemes are well-founded (terminating), and can immediately reduce a developer's workload by gauranteeing laws regarding their code (e.g. free theorems).
In a language like Python (and other languages like it), you lose pure functions and a strong type system. You now defer to ad hoc language trivia to construct your language, as opposed to a foundational theory, and it becomes much more burdensome over the long run as language features are introduced. If I know lambda calculus and type theory, i know every pure and logical functional progrmaming language. If i know python, I know python. There's nothing wrong with that, but basing a career on it will surely stunt your knowledge of programming, as well as your career prospects and ability.
And for the record, I am using haskell to build a language with embedded formal verification (Z3) right now as a job. And I write a little python too ;)
TRVP_ANGELThis is actually sick, I understood 2/100ths of what you wrote but i want to learn the declarative paradigm now so i can flex some of these low-level words on my OOP pleb peers. Now bear with me OP, data science peasant here, just want to ask some questions since it seems like you are working in the industry. How is functional programming being applied in the software industry? It seems like almost all FP is inside academia while majority of commercial software dev are OO. Are you building actual products and tools with these languages or are they for very specific modules? How's the efficiency speed-up against traditional paradigms? ... Or is that not something to compare on? Do you know whether this stuff is used in data science industry?
The closest interactions I can think of that was outside of my programming paradigm was using Theano which you use python to create symbolic expressions to compile and run inside theano.
Also your resume on linkedin is insane, especially going from bachelor degree to AVP at BoA within a year. Sorry, im just a huge fan girl rn
**This post was edited on Aug 18th 2018 at 11:46:56am
ArabianI would recommend you attempt to learn a little Haskell, just as a personal experience so you understand a bit about how to structure code. You can apply FP concepts in imperitive languages, it's just harder, but it's always a good tradeoff.
Thanks for stalking my linkedin :)
**This post was edited on Aug 18th 2018 at 1:29:39pm
Lieutenant_DanBitch u triflin... fuk outta hear wit dat bullshit u ain’t gettin no clout today. U tink u sumthin special nobody care wat u say. I don’t kno lil_G idgaf he sound like clout chaser like u.
U betta stay way frum pimp like me omm... hav u paper chasin fo a brake n u ain’t make shit. U is lil speck very dissapointed wit dat mout game
ThaLorax1. You have zero right to talk shit if you don't know the name Lil_G, let alone who Arabian is
2. Learn English, plebeian
ThaLorax1. You have zero right to talk shit if you don't know the name Lil_G, let alone who Arabian is
2. Learn English, plebeian
TRVP_ANGELespecially going from bachelor degree to AVP at BoA within a year.
ArabianWhat's up? I just realized it'll be 15 years on this site in December.
**This thread was edited on Aug 17th 2018 at 7:24:51pm
cornholiofun fact: AVP is like the typical entry level role title at BoA for anyone who doesn't actually work at a branch.
TRVP_ANGELfun fact: youre wrong
cornholioconsidering i live where BoA is headquartered and personally know countless people who started there out of college with the title AVP, i'll continue to believe what i know is true.
besides 100k canadian is like 50k us, which is an entry level salary.
cornholioconsidering i live where BoA is headquartered and personally know countless people who started there out of college with the title AVP, i'll continue to believe what i know is true.
besides 100k canadian is like 50k us, which is an entry level salary.
TRVP_ANGELok bro
theabortionatorWhats good dude? It's been a minute
Arabianoh hi Lorax :)
ThaLoraxHeyo! Hopefully you're still keeping it weird out there
*Fujative*Same! I've been a member since 2003.
Dr.DealgoodWild to see this thread and some old names... member since 2003 reporting for reactivation.
TOAST.Now if everyone else just came back.
Also, this thread is pretty cool, Arabian dishing out useful advice that i do not understand one bit of.
Dr.DealgoodThere's a ton of people who I wonder what the hell they're doing now... I ended up becoming a landscape architect.
TOAST.Mechanical Engineer
Its interesting how a lot of people just end up growing away from skiing even though it was a large part of their life at one point. I know if I didn't live 10 minutes from my home hill i wouldnt be going nearly as much as I used to. I guess thats just being an adult though.
ArabianYeah man it's been a while. How you been? I live in Brooklyn whoring myself for dollars now. What's good boiiii
eheathGood to see you back, transformice later?
ArabianI just realized it'll be 15 years on this site in December.
**This thread was edited on Aug 17th 2018 at 7:24:51pm
RudyGarmischHow many of those were unbanned tho.
You were a huge pain in the ass. I miss you though. You were a memorable member.
DeebieSkeebiesi just realized it'll be 10 years next august on NS...not nearly in the same vein as 15 but what the fuck, man.
It feels just like yesterday we were trying to get poor unsuspecting randos that made it somehow into the NS tinychat to show their titties,
