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KimJongTrillYeeeeeeeeeeee stoke is high today!

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New addition to the 🍔 as well…….

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23/24 looks fkn rad. Nice work.

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Dammnnn new collection looks incredible. I think its time to add a fat cat to the quiver, and dreaming of replacing my skinny touring ski with the DWT 104

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vermontanaDammnnn new collection looks incredible. I think its time to add a fat cat to the quiver, and dreaming of replacing my skinny touring ski with the DWT 104

Fat cat you say? 118 or bust

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PartyBullshiitFat cat you say? 118 or bust

Been rocking Commander108 and DW Tour for deeper days but its time for a proper pow ski in the quiver again!

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vermontanaBeen rocking Commander108 and DW Tour for deeper days but it’s time for a proper pow ski in the quiver again!

Funny enough my fat cat isn’t my main powder ski. Even at 118 underfoot it just does so much really well I find myself skiing it in a lot more variable stuff rather than just powder.

I have a 120 Chetler I use for serious powder but I’m replacing that will a chipotle banana.

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PartyBullshiitFunny enough my fat cat isn’t my main powder ski. Even at 118 underfoot it just does so much really well I find myself skiing it in a lot more variable stuff rather than just powder.

I have a 120 Chetler I use for serious powder but I’m replacing that will a chipotle banana.

I will likely be adding a fatcat as well but thanks to a craigslist call out I found my unicorn.

194 Ghost Train for the DEEP days.

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I will likely be adding a fatcat as well but thanks to a craigslist call out I found my unicorn.

194 Ghost Train for the DEEP days.

Nice score. I got my unicorn at the factory itself this past March while taking a tour. The Meridian graphic Meridian from Yesteryears.

the new release was cool but wasn’t a fan of the graphic.

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Nice!

I actually love the graphic from last year. But I think we can both agree that the meridian is a shitload of fun!

Excited to see how this Countach is as well!

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KimJongTrillNice!

I actually love the graphic from last year. But I think we can both agree that the meridian is a shitload of fun!

Excited to see how this Countach is as well!

The thing that irked me with the graphic is it’s a moment triple camber graphic. On a ski that is not triple camber. So I really wanted the actual Meridian graphic itself.

Now I’d love love love that new merdian graphic on my deathwish 104. Don’t love the red death on it. The blue death on my 112 looks nicer.

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KimJongTrillNice!

Excited to see how this Countach is as well!

They actually had the countach 182 demo at the factory while I was there. Was considering trying that out but ended up going with the wish 112 before buying one. I have a lot of time on the commander 98 and know I’m not a super directional skier in general so didn’t think I’d flow great with the countach. I still prefer their more progressive mounted skis though I do plan to try a countach out this year when I go back.

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PartyBullshiitThe thing that irked me with the graphic is it’s a moment triple camber graphic. On a ski that is not triple camber. So I really wanted the actual Meridian graphic itself.

Now I’d love love love that new merdian graphic on my deathwish 104. Don’t love the red death on it. The blue death on my 112 looks nicer.

Not sure what you mean by triple camber graphic. The release from last year was the original Meridian graphic from 16/17.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/908590/Moment---Meridian-16-17

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KimJongTrillNot sure what you mean by triple camber graphic. The release from last year was the original Meridian graphic from 16/17.

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/908590/Moment---Meridian-16-17

I mean directly on the graphics where it’s says triple camber multiple times. It’s cool artwork. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not taking anything away from it. For me just doesn’t make sense to have triple camber marketing on a ski that isn’t triple camber. That’s all. I prefer the “median” graphic itself. 4 prints are hanging in the shop.

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KimJongTrillNot sure what you mean by triple camber graphic. The release from last year was the original Meridian graphic from 16/17.

The first Meridian graphic was originally designed for the Deathwish, which is why it has some subtle triple camber references on it (three skulls, a few '3's, 'camber' on the right ski etc...).

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hot.pocketThe first Meridian graphic was originally designed for the Deathwish, which is why it has some subtle triple camber references on it (three skulls, a few '3's, 'camber' on the right ski etc...).

Ahhhh ok! Makes sense why it looks pieced together.

that print is badass!

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How does the countach 110 compare to a Faction dictator/dancer?

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thatsGHow does the countach 110 compare to a Faction dictator/dancer?

The direct comparison for that would be the Commander, not the Countach

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@hot.pocket - is the DWT104 construction that much more substantial than the regular DWT? Interesting that the skinnier ski is actually heavier. relatedly, would they ski a bit longer?

Have a DWT 190 for pow/midwinter tours and want to replace my big day touring skis next season, thinking maybe a DWT104 in 184 could be the ticket but tbh they're a bit heavier than would be ideal.

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thatsGHow does the countach 110 compare to a Faction dictator/dancer?

ThaLoraxThe direct comparison for that would be the Commander, not the Countach

Countach is going to be easier to throw around than either the Dancer or the Commander. Commander is more aggressive and composed compared to the Dancer.
Countach 110 = directional but freestyle influenced
Dancer 3 = directional, easier to toss around
Commander 108 = directional, more aggressive
At least that's my general idea with limited knowledge on the Dancer.

vermontana@hot.pocket - is the DWT104 construction that much more substantial than the regular DWT? Interesting that the skinnier ski is actually heavier. relatedly, would they ski a bit longer?

Have a DWT 190 for pow/midwinter tours and want to replace my big day touring skis next season, thinking maybe a DWT104 in 184 could be the ticket but tbh they're a bit heavier than would be ideal.

Yes, the 104 does have a more substantial build to it. Thicker core profile throughout and swaps the Ash stringers in the 112 for European Beech, which is heavier and damper. Translating that to the touring version, there's less filler wood in the 104, providing less material to lighten up, thus the similarity in weight between the 104 and 112 tour versions.

I do feel that the 104 skis a touch longer, but not by much. I daily the 112 DW 190 and skied the 104 DW 190 fairly often last season, and the 104 certainly required more effort on my part (I'm also a finesse over power skier, so take that into account). I'll most likely be swapping my 104 DW 190 for a 104 DW 184 in the future (6'2 150lbs).

@cydwhit has a review posted up on Powder about the Deathwish Tour 104: https://www.powder.com/gear-locker/review-moment-deathwish-tour-104

Snippet from his review regarding the weight:
It’s not just a narrower, lighter Deathwish Tour. For starters, it’s not
really that much lighter. According to Moment’s stated weights, it only
shaves 5 g per ski. So it’s not just a “more efficient” Deathwish Tour,
instead, it’s something else. It’s a quicker, more nimble, more
optimized for firm snow option. I think that makes choosing between it
and Moment’s other touring skis relatively easy. Want triple camber
optimized for firmer snow performance? Here’s your huckleberry.

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hot.pocketYes, the 104 does have a more substantial build to it. Thicker core profile throughout and swaps the Ash stringers in the 112 for European Beech, which is heavier and damper. Translating that to the touring version, there's less filler wood in the 104, providing less material to lighten up, thus the similarity in weight between the 104 and 112 tour versions.

I do feel that the 104 skis a touch longer, but not by much. I daily the 112 DW 190 and skied the 104 DW 190 fairly often last season, and the 104 certainly required more effort on my part (I'm also a finesse over power skier, so take that into account). I'll most likely be swapping my 104 DW 190 for a 104 DW 184 in the future (6'2 150lbs).

Agreed. I'd be way more likely to reach for a longer length of either of the DW 112's, or a shorter length of either of the 104s. 190 112 and 184 104 sounds like a great combo. Same goes for 184 112 and 179 104.

Put another way, the 184 112 is the shortest length I'd want to ski, whereas the 184 104 is the longest length of that ski I'd want to be on.

Sizing down the 104 makes sense, it gives you more of what makes that ski stand out from the 112, making it quicker and more nimble while still shockingly substantial.

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cydwhitAgreed. I'd be way more likely to reach for a longer length of either of the DW 112's, or a shorter length of either of the 104s. 190 112 and 184 104 sounds like a great combo. Same goes for 184 112 and 179 104.

Put another way, the 184 112 is the shortest length I'd want to ski, whereas the 184 104 is the longest length of that ski I'd want to be on.

Sizing down the 104 makes sense, it gives you more of what makes that ski stand out from the 112, making it quicker and more nimble while still shockingly substantial.

I ended up with a 184 112 and 104. Funny enough I was very concerned about sizing up from the 179 on the 104. But the 104 felt like it skied shorter with the triple camber. 184 was perfect. 179 felt too short and 190 felt too much.

On the 112 I actually wanted 190 originally but based off feedback from moment went with the 184 to have more versatility in trees etc.

now I’m looking to grab a cat 101 as a dedicated east coast ski. Just not sure I want to size up on that to a 184. I feel like 179 will be more than enough for general east coast mountains.

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Awesome, thank you both for the feedback. I'm on Blizzard Zerog95 for my skinny skis now and they're just alright...great for icy chutes and traverses, but they don't really fit my skiing style and with how much camber they have the 185s feel a bit long in tight areas. I also wish they were a little bit heavier for cutting through variable stuff. Seems like the DWT104 is the ticket.

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PartyBullshiitI ended up with a 184 112 and 104. Funny enough I was very concerned about sizing up from the 179 on the 104. But the 104 felt like it skied shorter with the triple camber. 184 was perfect. 179 felt too short and 190 felt too much.

On the 112 I actually wanted 190 originally but based off feedback from moment went with the 184 to have more versatility in trees etc.

now I’m looking to grab a cat 101 as a dedicated east coast ski. Just not sure I want to size up on that to a 184. I feel like 179 will be more than enough for general east coast mountains.

For what its worth, my cat 101 190s feel like they ski a bit shorter than my DWT 190s, they're super playful as my park/low tide all-mtn skis.

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vermontanaFor what its worth, my cat 101 190s feel like they ski a bit shorter than my DWT 190s, they're super playful as my park/low tide all-mtn skis.

Ya that was my thought on going towards the shorter side with the 101. Just to use as a full playful ski. If I need more I have a 108 or can do the wish 104.

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@hot.pocket that Carson drop coming in hot. Love the graphic. I’d rock it as an adult top sheet wise.

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PartyBullshiit@hot.pocket that Carson drop coming in hot. Love the graphic. I’d rock it as an adult top sheet wise.

Thanks! Was fun actually producing a unique Carson graphic instead of a shrunk down men's / women's graphic.

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@hot.pocket what are the chances we could get a Ghost Train drop this year? Me and all the other DW/DWT fanboys are wearing out our old powder skis.

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jhnegbrt@hot.pocket what are the chances we could get a Ghost Train drop this year? Me and all the other DW/DWT fanboys are wearing out our old powder skis.

We're still figuring out what / if we'd like to do more reserve drops, shoot us an email at info@momentskis.com to express your interest in a Ghost Train.

Having a list of email requests makes decisions like these easier.

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hot.pocketWe're still figuring out what / if we'd like to do more reserve drops, shoot us an email at info@momentskis.com to express your interest in a Ghost Train.

Having a list of email requests makes decisions like these easier.

Love my 169 Ghost Trains. If I didn't have a 2nd pair unmounted, I'd be begging for a re-release. They're 10 years old now though 🤣

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ThaLoraxLove my 169 Ghost Trains. If I didn't have a 2nd pair unmounted, I'd be begging for a re-release. They're 10 years old now though 🤣

Beg for a re-release for the rest of us

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I'd be all over a Ghost Train drop.

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Any word or hints on when/if Meridians will re-release?

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Nate5BAny word or hints on when/if Meridians will re-release?

Yes. Oct ish if the time frame at this point

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PartyBullshiitYes. Oct ish if the time frame at this point

Same graphics or new?

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steve0Same graphics or new?

I haven’t heard anything on that part yet. Just the general time frame

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PartyBullshiitI haven’t heard anything on that part yet. Just the general time frame

brb gonna go have a factory meeting

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Y'all are almost convincing me to take my Ghost Trains off the wall and remount them up hahah.

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I will likely be adding a fatcat as well but thanks to a craigslist call out I found my unicorn.

194 Ghost Train for the DEEP days.

I guess you might not have any time on the GT’s yet but I’m curious how they compare to the Chipotle Banana.

Widest ski I have right now is the Deathwish, and looking for something wider for the occasional “deep” powder day in Summit County (CO) and trips to Utah/places where it snows more.

I love the DW and I heard people complain about tip dive on the CB, so I got turned on to the GT. But, I’ve read more about CB and it sounds like a super fun ski for when things get tracked out, which is most of my powder days anyways.

So I guess I’m wondering: how much “charge” does the GT give up on the CB, and how much float does the CB give up on the GT?

@hot.pocket @melee - you guys have any insight?

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jhnegbrtI guess you might not have any time on the GT’s yet but I’m curious how they compare to the Chipotle Banana.

Widest ski I have right now is the Deathwish, and looking for something wider for the occasional “deep” powder day in Summit County (CO) and trips to Utah/places where it snows more.

I love the DW and I heard people complain about tip dive on the CB, so I got turned on to the GT. But, I’ve read more about CB and it sounds like a super fun ski for when things get tracked out, which is most of my powder days anyways.

So I guess I’m wondering: how much “charge” does the GT give up on the CB, and how much float does the CB give up on the GT?

@hot.pocket @melee - you guys have any insight?

I will start by saying I have tried a ton of pow skis and they all excel in different situations. The Banana in my opinion if one of the best chop skis out there but with the reverse profile remains pretty playful. Even in the 193. I have heard however that the 194 GT and the 193 Nanner are both pretty chargy while in the smaller sizes the GT is much more playful than the CB. does the CB float better than my new nocta? No. Am I Keeping the CB of the Nocta? Yes. For resort pow at Alta which gets skied out in about an hour the CB is pretty damn tough to beat. I would assume the GT will have a little less gas however I feel the GT would be a better Cat or Heli ski than the CB as the added width especially more towards the tips and tails would provide more float. I’ll report back on the GT this season but will likely still snag a new one if it hits the reserve for the construction updates moment has implemented over the years.

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@KimJongTrill thats super helpful. What height/weight are you running the 193 CB?

I’m 5’10 185 thinking 186 is enough ski, considering mounting -1. My 184 DW feels perfect, although never really been on a ski bigger than 184 so maybe I’d love the 193

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jhnegbrt@KimJongTrill thats super helpful. What height/weight are you running the 193 CB?

I’m 5’10 185 thinking 186 is enough ski, considering mounting -1. My 184 DW feels perfect, although never really been on a ski bigger than 184 so maybe I’d love the 193

I’m 6’1 210. I ski the DW and Kitty in the 190 and went with the 188 CT.

I would say if the 184 feels right the 186 is the way. I think both Luke and Max who are both over 6 feet prefer the 186 over the 193.

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jhnegbrtI guess you might not have any time on the GT’s yet but I’m curious how they compare to the Chipotle Banana.

Widest ski I have right now is the Deathwish, and looking for something wider for the occasional “deep” powder day in Summit County (CO) and trips to Utah/places where it snows more.

I love the DW and I heard people complain about tip dive on the CB, so I got turned on to the GT. But, I’ve read more about CB and it sounds like a super fun ski for when things get tracked out, which is most of my powder days anyways.

So I guess I’m wondering: how much “charge” does the GT give up on the CB, and how much float does the CB give up on the GT?

@hot.pocket @melee - you guys have any insight?

I have the Wildcat 101, just retired my Bibbys, and have the 2013 Ghost Train that I got off skiburger 4-5 years ago. I absolutely love the GT, and its tough to beat its fun in deeep pow, but it sucks massively on any stretch of hardback. Ridiculously fun in anything over 10", but the way it skis on hardback makes me only grab it like 1-5 days per season... because... its Colorado. Idk if the newer versions have improved that. But for most days where I know I'll encounter any reasonable amount of groomed/hardback terrain, even just transitions/catwalks, I found myself reaching for my Bibbys almost every time. The few days I take out thr GT, I always remember how ridiculously fun they are, except on the transitions between pow runs

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