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powpatrol
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Been looking for a wider all mountain ski recently.
My narrowed down options are: Kartel 108 (Very expensive for me but would be a dream)
Black Crows Atris
Movement Fly 105
Moment Meridian 107
The fly 105 seems like it should suit my playful style well unfortunately i can’t find much on the web about it,did however talk to laurent de martin and he’s loving them lol
Any had time on the 105’s or can vouch for the others?
Jul 16 2018 11:05AM
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tfsh
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Movements are known to be stiff, not soft (atleast that’s my understanding). Never skied any tho. I love the Kartel, the Atris is meh and the meridian 107 is a ski you either love or hate. Seems like most/everyone loves the k108. That’s where my money would be on. Edit: also I like the black crow anima allot better than the Atris. To me the Anima feels similar to the old ON3p Jefferey 114

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Jul 16 2018 11:42AM
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rojo.grande
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tfshMovements are known to be stiff, not soft (atleast that’s my understanding). Never skied any tho. I love the Kartel, the Atris is meh and the meridian 107 is a ski you either love or hate. Seems like most/everyone loves the k108. That’s where my money would be on. Edit: also I like the black crow anima allot better than the Atris. To me the Anima feels similar to the old ON3p Jefferey 114

**This post was edited on Jul 16th 2018 at 11:44:26am

The insane butters sampo and Laurent does on the fly says otherwise. And something to be said for rem to be riding them after superunknown this season.
Jul 16 2018 12:18PM
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powpatrol
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tfshMovements are known to be stiff, not soft (atleast that’s my understanding). Never skied any tho. I love the Kartel, the Atris is meh and the meridian 107 is a ski you either love or hate. Seems like most/everyone loves the k108. That’s where my money would be on. Edit: also I like the black crow anima allot better than the Atris. To me the Anima feels similar to the old ON3p Jefferey 114

**This post was edited on Jul 16th 2018 at 11:44:26am

The k108 is basically my dream ski however original price plus shipping is too much for me
What makes the atris so meh?
Jul 16 2018 1:52PM
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powpatrol
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evan.schuThe insane butters sampo and Laurent does on the fly says otherwise. And something to be said for rem to be riding them after superunknown this season.


Yeah this is what i was thinking about them,
laurent has got to be my favourite skier right now
Jul 16 2018 1:53PM
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N41v131355
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tfshMovements are known to be stiff, not soft (atleast that’s my understanding). Never skied any tho. I love the Kartel, the Atris is meh and the meridian 107 is a ski you either love or hate. Seems like most/everyone loves the k108. That’s where my money would be on. Edit: also I like the black crow anima allot better than the Atris. To me the Anima feels similar to the old ON3p Jefferey 114

**This post was edited on Jul 16th 2018 at 11:44:26am


Movements are actually soft. Fly 105 is very soft, softer than any other in this comparison.

To TS: Fly 105 was called Fly Catcher previously, it's still the same ski. I've written some info on them here on NS.
Jul 16 2018 2:13PM
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N41v131355
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powpatrolThe k108 is basically my dream ski however original price plus shipping is too much for me
What makes the atris so meh?


I also dreamed about K108 but didn't like them a lot in the end. Flex profile was very unusual, stiffer that I'd like to have.
Atris falls off your list because it has very little tail rocker in comparison to Movement, Moment and ON3P. Those 3 skis are similar in shape, but not the Atris. So it all depends on how you want to ski. Atris is more of a traditional ski with a recommended mount point at -8cm from center. Not suited for switch landings. But a very nice all mountain ski with good edge hold

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Jul 16 2018 2:26PM
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powpatrol
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N41v131355Movements are actually soft. Fly 105 is very soft, softer than any other in this comparison.

To TS: Fly 105 was called Fly Catcher previously, it's still the same ski. I've written some info on them here on NS.


Do you know if they’ll hold up for all mountain or are they just a little too soft?
Jul 16 2018 2:26PM
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N41v131355
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powpatrolDo you know if they’ll hold up for all mountain or are they just a little too soft?


As I said, depends on how you like to ski. They are super poppy and fun, but you need to play with them, not charge them. Even on medium speed it's huge rockers start to flop, whole ski becomes nerveous. Obviously not good for chop, as their flex reflect every small bump. They butter amazingly easy, I had best nollies and ollies ever with them.
Jul 16 2018 2:33PM
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powpatrol
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N41v131355As I said, depends on how you like to ski. They are super poppy and fun, but you need to play with them, not charge them. Even on medium speed it's huge rockers start to flop, whole ski becomes nerveous. Obviously not good for chop, as their flex reflect every small bump. They butter amazingly easy, I had best nollies and ollies ever with them.

One last thing,how well do they hold a turn and carve?
Jul 16 2018 2:36PM
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N41v131355
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powpatrolOne last thing,how well do they hold a turn and carve?


Check the pic. They hold n carve like snowblades
Jul 16 2018 2:48PM
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powpatrol
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N41v131355Check the pic. They hold n carve like snowblades


Yeah man that’s what i guessed :/
Any other all mountain skis you’ve tried that ya like?
Jul 16 2018 2:51PM
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N41v131355
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powpatrolYeah man that’s what i guessed :/
Any other all mountain skis you’ve tried that ya like?


Check K2 Marksman. Fits the ski profile you look for and you can find it 300-400$ on ebay
Jul 16 2018 2:57PM
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powpatrol
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N41v131355Check K2 Marksman. Fits the ski profile you look for and you can find it 300-400$ on ebay


I was thinking of them a little,how does the asymmetrical design hold up?
Jul 16 2018 2:59PM
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N41v131355
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powpatrolI was thinking of them a little,how does the asymmetrical design hold up?


I tried them for just couple of runs but I felt very little difference. It's not like you need to learn how to ski again. Looks funny. I miss them a little, should have skied them more. Can't give you a full review due to very limited experience. Check blistergear review on them, they described it very close to what I felt
Jul 16 2018 3:11PM
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powpatrol
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N41v131355I tried them for just couple of runs but I felt very little difference. It's not like you need to learn how to ski again. Looks funny. I miss them a little, should have skied them more. Can't give you a full review due to very limited experience. Check blistergear review on them, they described it very close to what I felt

Thanks for the help!
Jul 16 2018 3:13PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Given any thought to the Sego Big Horn 106?
Jul 16 2018 3:27PM
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rohara
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powpatrolBeen looking for a wider all mountain ski recently.
My narrowed down options are: Kartel 108 (Very expensive for me but would be a dream)
Black Crows Atris
Movement Fly 105
Moment Meridian 107
The fly 105 seems like it should suit my playful style well unfortunately i can’t find much on the web about it,did however talk to laurent de martin and he’s loving them lol
Any had time on the 105’s or can vouch for the others?


Skied a few runs on the Fly 105, found them super fun but very different to how I'd expect the K108 to ride. Basically really playful and great for presses, some pow, slush etc, but inevitable problems with re-frozen crud and choppy snow as a rockered, soft and quite lightweight ski. so depends what you're looking for.

Compared to other skis I've tried in that category, found them more maneuverable and a bit more playful than both CT 2.0
Jul 17 2018 5:57AM
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rohara
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powpatrolBeen looking for a wider all mountain ski recently.
My narrowed down options are: Kartel 108 (Very expensive for me but would be a dream)
Black Crows Atris
Movement Fly 105
Moment Meridian 107
The fly 105 seems like it should suit my playful style well unfortunately i can’t find much on the web about it,did however talk to laurent de martin and he’s loving them lol
Any had time on the 105’s or can vouch for the others?


Skied a few runs on the Fly 105, found them super fun but very different to how I'd expect the K108 to ride. Basically really playful and great for presses, some pow, slush etc, but inevitable problems with re-frozen crud and choppy snow as a rockered, soft and quite lightweight ski. so depends what you're looking for.

Compared to other skis I've tried in that category, found them more maneuverable and a bit more playful than both CT 2.0 and ARV106 but a little less stable and not as good in choppy, firmer snow. Atris feels more stable at speed and less playful, pretty predictable since it's much more directional
Jul 17 2018 5:59AM
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powpatrol
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roharaSkied a few runs on the Fly 105, found them super fun but very different to how I'd expect the K108 to ride. Basically really playful and great for presses, some pow, slush etc, but inevitable problems with re-frozen crud and choppy snow as a rockered, soft and quite lightweight ski. so depends what you're looking for.

Compared to other skis I've tried in that category, found them more maneuverable and a bit more playful than both CT 2.0


Thanks for tha info! :)
Jul 17 2018 6:57AM
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