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New Ski Company 2019 Design Ideas

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Ohara99
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Hi guys,

I thought that I would post these here to see what peoples thoughts are on our first initial ski designs. I have worked in the Ski industry for a small Ski Manufacturer in Europe for a few years and in 2019, we're hoping to start our own small company.

Just wanted some opinions on these designs, if you like them or if there is anything you guys would wanna see? (They are pretty rough at the moment). Our skis will be mainly based on Backcountry/Pow day skiing with maybe a couple of Park/Pipe lines too down the way.

If you've got any questions or suggestions hit me up.

Let us know what you think guys!

Thanks,

Jackson.
Jun 5 2018 8:15AM
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rohara
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Designs look cool, but am I reading that right as 'Bacland'? If that's a name you're going with for the brand/range/products then Atomic might have some stuff to say...
Jun 5 2018 9:40AM
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maclooney
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the skis on the far left look sick
Jun 5 2018 9:45AM
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Ohara99
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roharaDesigns look cool, but am I reading that right as 'Bacland'? If that's a name you're going with for the brand/range/products then Atomic might have some stuff to say...


True! We hadn’t considered that and I own the Bentchetlers 😂 Thanks for the advice man!
Jun 5 2018 11:40AM
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Ohara99
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maclooneythe skis on the far left look sick


Thanks man! My favourites too 😀
Jun 5 2018 11:42AM
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patagonialuke
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Looks like a fun pow shape. Do you guys have mockups of the rocker profile yet?
Jun 5 2018 11:57AM
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rohara
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GChop73True! We hadn’t considered that and I own the Bentchetlers 😂 Thanks for the advice man!


No worries man. Shapes look super fun. look forward to seeing how they turn out!
Jun 5 2018 12:08PM
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Ohara99
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roharaNo worries man. Shapes look super fun. look forward to seeing how they turn out!


Thanks man! Definitely going to keep the post updated
Jun 5 2018 12:25PM
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Ohara99
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patagonialukeLooks like a fun pow shape. Do you guys have mockups of the rocker profile yet?


We certainly do! I'll send them over in a message to you, would be great to get your thoughts :D
Jun 5 2018 12:28PM
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Zypher
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Would be interested in the dimensions of these guys. Looks like a fun pow shape but (at least from the picture) waist width to taper looks a bit aggressive. Do you have an idea what the turn radius is going to be like?
Jun 5 2018 12:46PM
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-SnowSnoli-
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Where in Europe? Definitely interested in specs/ profiles
Jun 5 2018 1:59PM
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profa_212
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These are some of the sickest graphics I've seen in a minute. Looks like a sick shape.
Jun 6 2018 12:54AM
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Ohara99
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Profahoben_212These are some of the sickest graphics I've seen in a minute. Looks like a sick shape.


Thanks dude! Stoked you like them, I’ll be uploading some new shapes we have with their graphics today, would love to hear what your thoughts are 😊
Jun 6 2018 3:53AM
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jca
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Are you using the same shape as ON3P C&Ds? Or just using the shape for graphic designs?
Jun 6 2018 12:34PM
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iggyskier
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jcaAre you using the same shape as ON3P C&Ds? Or just using the shape for graphic designs?





Jun 6 2018 1:26PM
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Ohara99
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Hi guys,

Thought I would share some of the specs for skis we're working on :) Let us know any thoughts you guys have, any suggestions would be great!

Thanks.
Jun 6 2018 1:41PM
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Ohara99
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iggyskier





Oh wow! That is similar, my apologies man.. We made sure we didn't even look at other skis to prevent this! Our bad, back to the drawing board with those designs for now, thanks for pointing out :)
Jun 6 2018 1:42PM
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loganimlach
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GChop73Oh wow! That is similar, my apologies man.. We made sure we didn't even look at other skis to prevent this! Our bad, back to the drawing board with those designs for now, thanks for pointing out :)


Holy shit, I haven't had a laugh like that in a minute. "Similar"? Dude you got red handed copping someone else's design and all of the hard work and R&D that they've put in to determining a shape. If you had any hint of imagination, or for that matter, any experience working in the ski industry then you wouldn't have pulled such an ignorant move. If you had made your own prototype to test based off a similar shape to practice making skis or begin your own R&D it would be understandable, but stealing a footprint and slapping your own graphics on it with the intent of selling it is complete busch league. Not only did you bite a shape but your name is a rip on a whole line from Atomic. Go fuck yourself and don't ever start a ski company you ignorant, unoriginal prick.
Jun 6 2018 2:06PM
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iggyskier
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GChop73Oh wow! That is similar, my apologies man.. We made sure we didn't even look at other skis to prevent this! Our bad, back to the drawing board with those designs for now, thanks for pointing out :)

Politely, don't treat me like an idiot. It's pretty clear you are using the PNG outline of the Cease & Desist as a clipping mask. I would have been ok with a statement saying these were just graphic outlines to gauge on how people would receive your graphics and didn't represent actual ski design, but to play it off as coincidence is laughable.

This is my living and that of all my hardworking employees - so I don't take kindly to people trying to blow smoke up my ass.

Jun 6 2018 2:23PM
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hot.pocket
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iggyskierThis is my living and that of all my hardworking employees - so I don't take kindly to people trying to blow smoke up my ass.


You should send them a cease and desist.
Jun 6 2018 3:07PM
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iggyskier
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hot.pocketYou should send them a cease and desist.


Though I suspect they would have to be a real company to do so...
Jun 6 2018 3:10PM
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link80
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If they dont have the ability to make an art template they dont have the ability to make a ski. I wouldn't worry about it.

**This post was edited on Jun 6th 2018 at 3:39:51pm
Jun 6 2018 3:30PM
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PNSkier
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DED!
Jun 6 2018 3:32PM
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Gman094
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GChop73Oh wow! That is similar, my apologies man.. We made sure we didn't even look at other skis to prevent this! Our bad, back to the drawing board with those designs for now, thanks for pointing out :)


This statement is alarming based on the fact that the simplest way to avoid this problem would be to make sure you knew what other major brands were doing in an effort to avoid copying them. The fact that you made a conscious effort not to do this is concerning because it tells me that you don't understand how a ski company business works on multiple levels.
Jun 6 2018 3:40PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I’d have sympathy if the op is like 13.
Jun 6 2018 8:15PM
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Crust_Station
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Idk guys i herd 13pee is wack we should prob start buyin ski from op, maybee theyll make a maguns 2!!1!
Jun 7 2018 4:50AM
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Vtsnowski
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Jun 7 2018 7:12AM
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Colingarnes
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OP will never post here again. Until he has a new username.
Jun 7 2018 12:51PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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OP, the design on the left was actually awesome. Next time just draw your own outline.
Jun 7 2018 8:07PM
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Crust_Station
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Has anyone on NS actually ridden the C&Ds? They seem so bad ass, and Im pretty sure they’re definitely not the right skis for me but I want them soo damn bad
Jun 7 2018 9:33PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Crust_StationHas anyone on NS actually ridden the C&Ds? They seem so bad ass, and Im pretty sure they’re definitely not the right skis for me but I want them soo damn bad


Yep
Jun 8 2018 12:07AM
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Kretzschmar
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Guys, don't want to threadjack XD but omg, check out my new, original ski company ONPUP


Jun 8 2018 3:25PM
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freeballer
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loganimlachHoly shit, I haven't had a laugh like that in a minute. "Similar"? Dude you got red handed copping someone else's design and all of the hard work and R&D that they've put in to determining a shape. If you had any hint of imagination, or for that matter, any experience working in the ski industry then you wouldn't have pulled such an ignorant move. If you had made your own prototype to test based off a similar shape to practice making skis or begin your own R&D it would be understandable, but stealing a footprint and slapping your own graphics on it with the intent of selling it is complete busch league. Not only did you bite a shape but your name is a rip on a whole line from Atomic. Go fuck yourself and don't ever start a ski company you ignorant, unoriginal prick.

Right, because no other company looks at shapes and dimensions of other brands' popular models that sell well at retail, whether they are a large brand or small. Give me a fucking break.
Jun 8 2018 4:50PM
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Slunky
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Sick thread lol
Jun 8 2018 4:53PM
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hot.pocket
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freeballerRight, because no other company looks at shapes and dimensions of other brands' popular models that sell well at retail, whether they are a large brand or small. Give me a fucking break.


Reread what Logan wrote and tell me if you still stand behind your statement.
Jun 8 2018 7:30PM
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ahshit
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At first I was actually pretty stoked but then I watched this thread go up in flames lol
Jun 8 2018 10:09PM
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loganimlach
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freeballerRight, because no other company looks at shapes and dimensions of other brands' popular models that sell well at retail, whether they are a large brand or small. Give me a fucking break.


Big difference between looking at and testing other people’s shapes and copying it from their website and putting your graphics on it.
Jun 9 2018 10:47AM
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Colingarnes
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freeballerRight, because no other company looks at shapes and dimensions of other brands' popular models that sell well at retail, whether they are a large brand or small. Give me a fucking break.

You would think with 638 posts here you wouldn't be such an idiot.
Jun 9 2018 10:59AM
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freeballer
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loganimlachBig difference between looking at and testing other people’s shapes and copying it from their website and putting your graphics on it.

Eh, I dunno. Shapes have been pretty dialed for a while now. Materials and construction are the difference makers. If you were starting a new ski company, you'd be kind of dumb to not research what works. It's a moot point though. These guys are never actually making a set of skis, and if they did, they'd be garbage, unless they used a nice existing factory. Guess what shape and dimensions that factory would recommend? Most likely something that every other brand already uses.
Jun 9 2018 8:09PM
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freeballer
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hot.pocketReread what Logan wrote and tell me if you still stand behind your statement.

I do. Worrying about some ski company that will never make a ski is Bush League at best. If they were serious about making skis, how dumb would they be to not look at the competition and mimic what works?
Jun 9 2018 8:14PM
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Lonely
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KretzschmarGuys, don't want to threadjack XD but omg, check out my new, original ski company ONPUP




Will these be available to purchase? Asking for a friend
Jun 9 2018 10:01PM
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hot.pocket
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freeballerI do. Worrying about some ski company that will never make a ski is Bush League at best. If they were serious about making skis, how dumb would they be to not look at the competition and mimic what works?


His point was that everyone looks at the competition, and that people would be dumb not to look at the competition, but OP straight copied the exact design. There's a difference between looking at the competition and making your own design based off other designs and straight taking the exact design of another company.
Jun 10 2018 11:59PM
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SofaKingSick
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i just skimmed the thread, what was the giveaway? was it just the weird little asymmetrical nose designs?
Jun 11 2018 11:13AM
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Swandog7
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SofaKingSicki just skimmed the thread, what was the giveaway? was it just the weird little asymmetrical nose designs?


looking like a copy and paste pasta ova here. OPs image has dimensions and shape quite similarly (literally so similar) that reflect an older C&D made by Ohnep skis
Jun 11 2018 2:18PM
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Rum_Ham
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KretzschmarGuys, don't want to threadjack XD but omg, check out my new, original ski company ONPUP




Would buy immediately
Jun 11 2018 6:23PM
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Colingarnes
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Rum_HamWould buy immediately


Corgi version and I'm sold. Can ON3P do a custom dog run...?
Jun 11 2018 8:39PM
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profa_212
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ColingarnesCorgi version and I'm sold. Can ON3P do a custom dog run...?

Can on3p bring back the ugly topsheet contest?
Jun 11 2018 9:32PM
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iggyskier
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Profahoben_212Can on3p bring back the ugly topsheet contest?


We're kicking it around. Maybe soon.
Jun 11 2018 9:45PM
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Slunky
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iggyskierWe're kicking it around. Maybe soon.


I think you guys should just add the osama pro graphic to your lineup, that’d be an instacop
Jun 11 2018 10:16PM
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