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N41v131355BMT109 or BMT122 depending on what snow you are expecting to ski. I'd say 109 as it's much much more universal
mystery3The revolt 124 weigh 2580g in a 176 and 2700g in a 186, seems a touch high for touring use no?
mystery3Why are you looking at those two skis in particular? And not the Confession, Katana, Mantra, or 100eight for instance?
patagonialukeThe Bash 115 and Revolt 125 are literally some of the heaviest skis on the market. If you're looking for a workout, I say go for it, but that is going to be a ton of weight, especially with Barons. And I'd definitely go with the 115 if you want any sort of versatility for non-ideal conditions — or leg strength for the way down.
If you like the idea of the Revolt and Bash, I'd steer clear of the BMT series since they are way more traditional and not very playful.
If you're willing to move away from one singular brand, there are so many better options.
I think it mostly depends on what touring you're trying to do. You say day trips, so does that mean this setup is only going to be used for short tours, and no time in the resort? Or are you thinking something mostly for the resort, and only touring a few times? If so, the weight won't be as big of a deal and will be good for the resort. But if this is a dedicated touring setup, I'd highly recommend looking for something lighter, as well as a tech binding setup. If you're willing to look beyond Volkl, I'd be happy to suggest some options.
L.WattsWell I'm looking for something I can use in resort as I'm hoping to go-to verbier all next winter. So literally only day tours but I want something that is a twin tips and twin rocker because I want to be hitting tricks etc. I get they're heavy but can't move away from the barons as I'm not big enough into the touring to warrant touring boots etc. So just a fat powder playful ski I can do day tours to inaccessible areas by lift etc
L.WattsWell I'm looking for something I can use in resort as I'm hoping to go-to verbier all next winter. So literally only day tours but I want something that is a twin tips and twin rocker because I want to be hitting tricks etc. I get they're heavy but can't move away from the barons as I'm not big enough into the touring to warrant touring boots etc. So just a fat powder playful ski I can do day tours to inaccessible areas by lift etc
Rum_HamBibby tour sounds perfect for you, magic Js are super heavy I wouldn't want to lug those uphill.
Rum_Ham3.85 kg per pair so more like 1900g a ski for the 190 tours
Rum_Ham3.85 kg per pair so more like 1900g a ski for the 190 tours
L.WattsYo those skis are sick but as I live in the UK it's basically impossible to get them and the import tax would make them a £900 set of skis
N41v131355I'm telling you, check out Atomic Bentchetlers. You can get them for 350-400 pounds on sale or even cheaper, they weight around 2kg in 185 and their shape profile is very similar to bash 115, No need to look futher
tomPietrowskiNext years bents if you want light or k2 cats. Both super fun and available at decent prices in the uk. I tour on cats it the moment but I mounted up riddles new bents and those are crazy light
L.WattsYo what's everyone's opinion on the k2 marksman if I want a bit of hiking/touring but also shred the jumps? 106 underfoot and don't weigh too much
Profahoben_212Seems a little heavy to me....there are some lighter skis around that size....however I would suggest 2 separate set ups as park riding can be super hard on frame and especially tech bindings.
Ct. 3.0 would be a good place to look...liberty makes a light all mountain ski I think (???) There's plenty of others too.
L.WattsAny specific liberty skis I can have a look at?
tfshI have a pair of CT 3.0s with kingpins and skins that i would sell because I maybe tour twice a year. Its a killer lightweight big-mountain setup. skis are 176s might be short for you.
tfshI have a pair of CT 3.0s with kingpins and skins that i would sell because I maybe tour twice a year. Its a killer lightweight big-mountain setup. skis are 176s might be short for you.
L.Watts176 is band on where are you based man??
L.Watts176 is band on where are you based man??
maclooneyI'd be looking at +180cm for your height tbh
tfshUSA
Yeah if OP is really intending to ski big mountain terrain the 176s are short for him. Im 5 foot 4 and love the 176 length because it is both stable but also really managable and playfull for long days of touring where im tired. For OP I think the skis would be wayyy to playfull and not chargy enough. However weight is really the bigger factor, I weigh 135ish, if OP is similar the setup is quite killer.
L.Watts180 plus? My dad's 5'9ish and had dps wailers in about 175 I think and I have tried them and they're chargy as hell. I get the marksmens might be too playful but I want playful and chargy
tfshMarksmans are softtt. And yes man, weight, skill level and style/preference matter way more than height. I have a pair of directional skis that are 180s and I gurentee you they are allot stiffer, meaner, burlier and chargier than any wailer could be (I know because I used to own a pair way back when before i snapped them). My dad has 168 wailers right now and is a good 5 inches taller than me and 150lbs heavier. But he skis like a dad and doesnt need the stability a long ski gives you.