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Sliding Out on Rails? Advice?

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skierman_jack
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Although the end of the season is upon us, I have been learning to grind rails on my skis, with the guidance of my brother. No matter how far forward I stay when mounting the rail, I ALWAYS slide out and land on my ass. This happens on boxes too. My bro cant figure out whats wrong as he never had this problem. Could someone help me out a bit? Thanks!
Apr 12 2018 1:44PM
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SofaKingSick
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post a vid

but it sounds like youre not committing totally and/or not leaning forward enough

if you are leaning forward as much as you say, then it means youre not squaring up completely with the rail. turn your skis the full 90* so theyre totally perpendicular to the rail and hunch forward with wide stance
Apr 12 2018 1:49PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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just raise your front foot and youre already doing easy backslides

Apr 12 2018 2:02PM
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THUGwife
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Get lowwwwwww
Apr 12 2018 2:14PM
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TheHamburglar
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THUGwifeGet lowwwwwww


this. bend them knees boi
Apr 12 2018 2:18PM
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J_Christoph
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You just have to commit and convince yourself it's easier than it seems. Look at the end of the rail, breathe, and overcompensate by throwing most your weight onto your front foot. Gravity and the angle of the rail/box will take care of your back foot.
Apr 12 2018 2:24PM
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sklermang
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Did you lube up? Always lube up before you mount the rail
Apr 12 2018 2:53PM
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Cade2
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go faster
Apr 12 2018 3:53PM
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ParkRx
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Pretend like you taking a running jumping onto a stationary skate board. Its essentially the same feeling
Apr 12 2018 4:02PM
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Johngreenacre
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literally just do it more. everyone who's ever hit rails slid out at first. its an inevitable part of learning. POP, turn sideways, and don't put your edges in
Apr 13 2018 9:32AM
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Mr.Front4
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Wide stance
Apr 13 2018 4:11PM
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clorox
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When you land on the rail, make sure your shoulders are completely locked sideways. Keep the majority of your weight on your front foot, and look at the end of the rail. Have your back foot so that your base is touching the rail, and your front foots inside edge is on the rail. This way, your back foots purpose is to keep you balanced, and because your weight is on your front foot, it can be used to set for swaps and spins out.
Apr 14 2018 5:27AM
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skiguy04
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Ski slower / do a stall first
Apr 15 2018 9:23PM
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weastcoat
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Shin pressure is key when you’re on the lip. When you’re going up to the lip just think to yourself “lean forward, lean forward” (not on the rail) then hop on to the rail and almost let your back foot drag behind that way it’s not right under your center of mass
Apr 16 2018 10:38PM
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andrewsmart
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Get low enough so your hands are with your knees.

Another issue that I had when learning was my legs were super close together, try and make them shoulder width if you can.
Apr 17 2018 10:59PM
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skiguy04
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Try and stay upright like a pencil tho
Apr 18 2018 1:51AM
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roddy116
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knees to shoulder, bend knees a bit if your having issues, and look towards the end of the rail.
Apr 18 2018 5:06PM
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DirtYStylE
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STOMP IT. You do not want to slide onto the rail. You need to jump up and land squarely in the middle with downward momentum. You do not want momentum pushing you left or right (unless you are gettin ready for a 3 swap)
Apr 18 2018 5:22PM
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PaddyGraham
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Get down low and bend them knees like a gorilla or a teapot or some shit and then put ur weight on ur front foot and stay balanced.
Apr 19 2018 1:08AM
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The.Fish
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i learned by putting more weight on my front foot. This is a bad habit long term though because you will start catching your edge and bad things can happen (i broke my wrist).
Apr 19 2018 9:38AM
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skierman_jack
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With the park closed last Saturday and the whole place closed Sunday, I had limited options. I did, however, build a PVC rail with my brother...it was a success. I slid out the first try, but I got it better after that. The weight on the front foot really helped. I also took a halved PVC pipe and just practiced jumping, turning, and grinding with just me ski boots on...I think that really helped too. Thank you guys for the help. With all this said, does anyone have so homemade rails they can share so I can gather ideas?
Apr 19 2018 1:06PM
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sklermang
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SkylineGTR_R32With the park closed last Saturday and the whole place closed Sunday, I had limited options. I did, however, build a PVC rail with my brother...it was a success. I slid out the first try, but I got it better after that. The weight on the front foot really helped. I also took a halved PVC pipe and just practiced jumping, turning, and grinding with just me ski boots on...I think that really helped too. Thank you guys for the help. With all this said, does anyone have so homemade rails they can share so I can gather ideas?


Awesome man!

The Build a Jib 101 cult is pretty much dead, but has a ton of older posts with homemade rails, drop-ins, etc, and even some plans on how to build them.

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/1453/Build-A-Jib-101
Apr 19 2018 1:11PM
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GhettoYeti
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voy10Shin pressure is key when you’re on the lip. When you’re going up to the lip just think to yourself “lean forward, lean forward” (not on the rail) then hop on to the rail and almost let your back foot drag behind that way it’s not right under your center of mass


This
Apr 19 2018 4:03PM
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