Nope!

ON3P is popular because it's worth it. But for you personally, it really depends on your budget and how you feel about your current skis. In my view, an ARV96 and a magnus makes no sense for a two ski quiver, and since you like your ARVs I'd say wait until they need to be replaced, save money, then pull the trigger on the magnus when the time is right. Try to demo them if you have the opportunity.

Keep the ARV 96's for park. Get Kartel 108's and get your mind blown off piste. Now you got a solid two ski quiver

ColingarnesKeep the ARV 96's for park. Get Kartel 108's and get your mind blown off piste. Now you got a solid two ski quiver

So you got the k108's? You posted 9 days ago that you were leaning towards other skis over the kartels.

Just ski the arvs till they die, then buy on3ps

**This post was edited on Apr 9th 2018 at 7:38:59pm

Thanks for your opinions! I’ll probs ski the arvs till they die then look at my budget.

For you personally I would say no, they are not worth it. If your armadas are fine keep skiing on those. Also the Magnus isn’t that much of a flexible ski, it is mostly the profile of the ski that makes it so buttery as you may see. Also if your le just beginning park it isn’t worth spending so much money on a ski yet.

mr.tibblesSo you got the k108's? You posted 9 days ago that you were leaning towards other skis over the kartels.

Sorry, did I recommend a bad ski? Would he not have his mind blown off piste compared to his ARV? Would he not have a nice two ski quiver then?

Lol snooping my posts.

**This post was edited on Apr 9th 2018 at 9:46:56pm

mr.tibblesSo you got the k108's? You posted 9 days ago that you were leaning towards other skis over the kartels.

And yeah personally I'm leaning towards the CT 2.0 or Mag 102... But Kartel 108 is top 3 and seems to suit this guy better.

ColingarnesSorry, did I recommend a bad ski? Would he not have his mind blown off piste compared to his ARV? Would he not have a nice two ski quiver then?

Lol snooping my posts.

**This post was edited on Apr 9th 2018 at 9:46:56pm

Well it blew my mind that it blew your mind when I remember you asking about it so recently. I actually own a pair. For me, I'd for sure pair a pow ski with an all mountain freestyle ski over a second all mountain freestyle ski. K108 is a cool ski though. I think it's great for someone that lives out west and wants a 1 ski quiver, skis a lot of park but still wants to be able to charge all over the mountain.

your mom wasnt worth it but I still banged her

mr.tibblesWell it blew my mind that it blew your mind when I remember you asking about it so recently. I actually own a pair. For me, I'd for sure pair a pow ski with an all mountain freestyle ski over a second all mountain freestyle ski. K108 is a cool ski though. I think it's great for someone that lives out west and wants a 1 ski quiver, skis a lot of park but still wants to be able to charge all over the mountain.

New rule. No one is allowed to talk about a product unless you own it. No matter how much research you have put in and how many comparisons you have done. Noted.

ColingarnesNew rule. No one is allowed to talk about a product unless you own it. No matter how much research you have put in and how many comparisons you have done. Noted.

new rule, u cant make new rules unless u have been here for more than a year

These threads are fun

Cade2new rule, u cant make new rules unless u have been here for more than a year

New rule, there are NO rules.

ColingarnesNew rule, there are NO rules.

You sound like the kid who plays tag, gets caught in a corner, and then calls timeout.

Swandog7You sound like the kid who plays tag, gets caught in a corner, and then calls timeout.

I didn't have friends. So no tag.

Get some Magnus 102’s for next year

besides owning 2 pairs of on3ps rn, I just visited the factory (today lol) and can testify holy shit they are worth it. I have always loved how great their skis are, but its absolutly mental the amount of effort, time and passion they put into their skis. Their qaulity control is absolutly crazy and litterly every aspect of their skis are meticulously thought through. Simple things like heating the ABS sidewall are completely re-thought and re worked to insure everything is perfect. every part of their skis is there for a reason. no gimicks just performance. scott never leaves anything be and is always looking for some way to improve his product, and every worker there is so passionate about the product aswell. i really cant stress how great the product is, and how great the people are behind the company.

ColingarnesKeep the ARV 96's for park. Get Kartel 108's and get your mind blown off piste. Now you got a solid two ski quiver

Couldn't agree more ^^^

Posted this in regards to the 108 in a different thread:

"Had a pair since the start of the season and they’ve been on two trips to the Alps (December and March) and one trip to Whistler (January).
I love them so much. They are rock solid on everything I’ve skied them on but so much fun and super playful when you want them to be, but not soft as such. I’ve had them cranked right over in groomers and had them make me feel like I’m on train tracks (I believe this is thanks to the elliptical sidecut) they’re grip it and rip it on groomers unlike anything I’ve skied of that size.
I’ve never been so happy with the way I’ve skied tree in my life, the rocker means they pivot so quickly and you can slash them around in the trees and I’ve been shredding trees faster than usual and I think they’ve boosted my confidence there.
They’ll bust through any crud that comes your way and when you get a pow day, I’ve had a few turns of waist deep stuff on em, they’re floaty and surfy as all hell.
If I hadn’t just upgraded my park set up/didn’t ski park I wouldn’t see the need for another pair of skis, and if you wanted to rip park in them you could bang them at -2 and they’d do all the above but be so fun in the park as the swing weight is nothing compared to the size of the ski.
I’m also waiting until I can afford daymakers so I can turn them into a touring ski as well.
Mine set are 186s (I’m about 6’1 and 165 lbs) mounted at recommended with pivot 18s just for reference.
I can tell you they rock and I wish I was getting paid to say this. Also get a purple topsheet, always get the purple top sheet."

TL:DR Great Skis

Also just picked up some ARV 96s to replace my very near death AR7s, I've got some other skis knocking around from second hand purchases and skis I no longer ski, but once these ARVS are mounted I'm going to consider myself to have an awesome 2 ski quiver.

I think this man makes an excellent point. Don't replace your 96s with Magnuses until the former is totally dead or very near that way. You're better off broadening your quiver rather than having two variants of a very similar type of ski. Get the Magnus 102s or K108s if you're going for a new set of sticks and want ON3Ps. Can't say enough about the K108s

for me - short answer - yes, they are worth it. Awesome skis, awesome build quality, awesome graphics, awesome characteristics and friendly and super helpful people - highly recommended. Kartels are awesome for a playful ski that are as home out and about as in the park, while for park only duties the magnus series are a fine option. I would get the former for added versatility.

kid-kapowfor me - short answer - yes, they are worth it. Awesome skis, awesome build quality, awesome graphics, awesome characteristics and friendly and super helpful people - highly recommended. Kartels are awesome for a playful ski that are as home out and about as in the park, while for park only duties the magnus series are a fine option. I would get the former for added versatility.

I'm also super interested in how the Mag 102 will handle out of park.. I imagine it will be pretty stiff if the 90 is any indication.

ColingarnesI'm also super interested in how the Mag 102 will handle out of park.. I imagine it will be pretty stiff if the 90 is any indication.

The 90s are stiff? I always imagined them not to be the way Magnus bends them, but then again I guess the laws of physics don't apply to him

MF-HARPThe 90s are stiff? I always imagined them not to be the way Magnus bends them, but then again I guess the laws of physics don't apply to him

Stiffer than you would think. My buddy has 90's and they are definitely no noodles.

ColingarnesStiffer than you would think. My buddy has 90's and they are definitely no noodles.

I guess it makes sense. Magnus gets metric fuck tonnes of pop.

K108s were stiffer than I was imagining but I don’t think I’d change for the softer layup even though sometimes I wish I had. They charge.

i have neither skied nor fondled the magnus', but apparently they are on the stiffer side of jib skis, while still being jibby as heck due their rocker profile. Aka, best of both worlds for mediocre to good skiers, perhaps not ideal for beginners. Said flex and profile would prob make em a bit more versatile as well. Happy times.

IMO: yes and no;
last season i rode on3p Magnus, I always detune my skis, and baby them,( Waxing once a week etc) however after a month of riding i got 2 edge cracks. Ofc this is expected, however im not a rail rat, and i went a full szn on my armada thalls with no edge cracks. This season i had vishnu wets, i didnt detune them and rode the entire season and zero edge cracks. Could of been a fluke but imo magnus edges arent as good as I expected. The skis themselves tho were super fun, and everything else seemed fairly bomb proof.

Short version: In the past few seasons I have ridden Klint Piperiders, Armada Thalls, Rmu Rippahs, and Vishnu wets with no edge cracks all after full seasons ( detuned all when i first purchased and taken well care of)

After one month on magnus i had 2 edge cracks (following same detuning process and also taken well care of)

The Magnus 102 was softer than I expected after flexing the good old original Magnus. Its still a park ski - get the Kartel 96 if you want something stiffer and a little wider than the Magnus standard.

RudyGarmischThe Magnus 102 was softer than I expected after flexing the good old original Magnus. Its still a park ski - get the Kartel 96 if you want something stiffer and a little wider than the Magnus standard.

Like line blend noodle status or what

On3p is definitely worth it. More so than any other ski brand IMO. They are by far the most durable skis I have ever owned, and every single one of their skis perform as good or better than the big brands similar offerings.

ColingarnesLike line blend noodle status or what

Oh hellllll nah

every single edge on every single ski comes out of two factories in euroland. While issues from faulty heat treatment could occur, i have a hard time seeing how a thicker than normal edge if detuned properly would be more prone to cracking. I am not saying that you did anything wrong, and while my understanding of the physics/chemistry involved might be faulty, i would think the thicker edges are less and not more prone to cracking.

If you’re a rail rat then don’t expect them to hold up well. (That’ll happen to any ski really but I just had a super bad experience with mine, I’m not gonna go into detail.) However you can still manage to use them very well even with a ton of edge damage. If you end up getting edge pullouts underfoot, cut it out and file down the broken areas well. Half of my season I continued to ski mine hard on rails even tho they were in awful shape. Also, if you butter a lot, beware of Delam. But just like the edge cracks and pullouts it’s super manageable, just sink some rivets whenever the Delam goes from minor to major.

If you’re not a total rail rat, pull the damn trigger then because these things are FUN. Extremely surfy, snappy, yet chargeable at the same time. They carve soooo nicely. I’ve gotten my magnuses close to 60 MPH on hard snow and I never felt I had 100% control over my skis.

They will last long (again if you’re not a hardcore rail rat). The sidewalls, topsheet, and bases are bombproof. And that’s an understatement. I’ve literally landed HARD on huge, sharp rocks countless times, and the bases just had a few nicks in them. The bases are extremely fast too.

Short: Rail Rat- be cautious with the skis. Don’t stress it if they end up falling apart, they can still be skied a long time.
Not a Rail Rat- buy them because they’ll hold up and are extremely fun.