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Supernatural 92, Black Crows Orb, chargey dad ski?

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I'm helping a friend pick up a set of skis. He raced years ago and likes to rip groomers, hit a few bumps an tree runs. Skis Tahoe mostly but doesn't want anything too wide, 95 max probably.

Budget is a definite consideration, he's looking to buy skis for a whole family so doesn't want to blow a grand on a sweet setup really.

I keep finding 15/16 supernatural 92s priced aggressively and wanted to know what your dads/older brother/old guys are riding.

As for sizing on the supernatural 172 or 179 for 5'8"-5'9" 150-160lbs?

Any thoughts on Black Crows Orb?

Volkl kendo?

Thanks all!
Mar 21 2018 1:01AM
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lwgp
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Add the Enforcer 93 to the list of options.
Mar 21 2018 10:38AM
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skidemon22
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Faction Dictator 2.0. Blows kendo out of the water
Mar 21 2018 11:50AM
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lwgpAdd the Enforcer 93 to the list of options.

Looked at those...can't find a decent sale on them anywhere.
skidemon22Faction Dictator 2.0. Blows kendo out of the water

As a ski geared more toward backcountry is it going to be too light to really rip the shit out of groomers and ice?

I lean towards a nimble/poppy type of ski and enjoy high speed stability but it's not a high priority when I look at skis so I don't know anything about this category of skis really.
Mar 21 2018 1:28PM
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lwgp
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mystery3Looked at those...can't find a decent sale on them anywhere.


If you go to a shop that still has some in stock they might be willing to work with you... it's March so certain stores might be willing to move units for below MSRP.
EDIT: Backcountry.com has them in a 185cm at 20% off.

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Mar 21 2018 1:32PM
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how old are kids? J master blaster may be good. 96 underfoot, but has deep sidecut so they carve very well. Also, if the kids are younger, skiing backwards is a pro for teaching. Just a thought
Mar 21 2018 1:46PM
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skidemon22
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mystery3Looked at those...can't find a decent sale on them anywhere.

As a ski geared more toward backcountry is it going to be too light to really rip the shit out of groomers and ice?

I lean towards a nimble/poppy type of ski and enjoy high speed stability but it's not a high priority when I look at skis so I don't know anything about this category of skis really.


It is not at all geared towards backcountry. its 95mm underfoot with 2 sheets of titanal, which makes it great on ice/ variable conditions. It has a poplar-reinforced paulownia wood core, which is a sustainable, lightweight hardwood.

It's our frontside/ all mountain ski that is way more fun then Kendo (which is just a 2x4). We are dropping the price for next seasons model, so it'll retail for $649. It also gets a graphic refresh
Mar 21 2018 2:11PM
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Have him look for the Salomon qst 99 or92 if he really is worried about the waist width. It's a really solid ski which holds an edge really well. Best of all they can be found really cheap. We are currently sellin the 92 for $350 cad.
Mar 21 2018 2:52PM
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tomPietrowskiHave him look for the Salomon qst 99 or92 if he really is worried about the waist width. It's a really solid ski which holds an edge really well. Best of all they can be found really cheap. We are currently sellin the 92 for $350 cad.


Also a good recommendation. the qst 99 and 106 are my favorite skis in the Salomon catalog at the moment.

@OP, still, look at the faction dictators, really fun ski
Mar 21 2018 4:41PM
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cg.99how old are kids? J master blaster may be good. 96 underfoot, but has deep sidecut so they carve very well. Also, if the kids are younger, skiing backwards is a pro for teaching. Just a thought

7, 4, 2. Older two are good to go youngest has yet to get on skis. Ski looks great...spendy though.
skidemon22It is not at all geared towards backcountry. its 95mm underfoot with 2 sheets of titanal, which makes it great on ice/ variable conditions. It has a poplar-reinforced paulownia wood core, which is a sustainable, lightweight hardwood.

It's our frontside/ all mountain ski that is way more fun then Kendo (which is just a 2x4). We are dropping the price for next seasons model, so it'll retail for $649. It also gets a graphic refresh

Thanks for the info, I looked at this ski a couple times but didn't have it on the list for fear it may be to lightweight/not hard charging enough.
tomPietrowskiHave him look for the Salomon qst 99 or92 if he really is worried about the waist width. It's a really solid ski which holds an edge really well. Best of all they can be found really cheap. We are currently sellin the 92 for $350 cad.

@$350 CAD it's tempting right? I may be ill informed but I see the QST as a quintessential dad ski. Is it stiff, a little brutal or is it really easy to ski and carve for a variety of skier types and abilities?
Mar 21 2018 4:43PM
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mystery3Thanks for the info, I looked at this ski a couple times but didn't have it on the list for fear it may be to lightweight/not hard charging enough.

@$350 CAD it's tempting right? I may be ill informed but I see the QST as a quintessential dad ski. Is it stiff, a little brutal or is it really easy to ski and carve for a variety of skier types and abilities?

Yeah, you def don't have to worry about the dictator not being enough. Its very well made

QST is far from brutal, has a tapered tip shape that makes it super easy to ski, with a medium-medium/stiff flex
Mar 21 2018 4:47PM
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Mantras if he used to race and wants to rip
Mar 21 2018 4:53PM
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mystery37, 4, 2. Older two are good to go youngest has yet to get on skis. Ski looks great...spendy though.

Thanks for the info, I looked at this ski a couple times but didn't have it on the list for fear it may be to lightweight/not hard charging enough.

@$350 CAD it's tempting right? I may be ill informed but I see the QST as a quintessential dad ski. Is it stiff, a little brutal or is it really easy to ski and carve for a variety of skier types and abilities?

They are super easy to ski. I was using the qst 99 recently to test the new shift binding and it's actually a good little ski. I used it in the park for a day even and it was fun. It was not great in pow but at 99mm I would not really expect it to be.
Mar 21 2018 5:24PM
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cg.99
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You can buy factory blem I skis for half the price
Mar 21 2018 6:13PM
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gapersarefriendsMantras if he used to race and wants to rip

I've heard mantras rip but I don't know if I can sell him on a full rocker 100 waist which is why I was looking at the kendo?
cg.99You can buy factory blem I skis for half the price

Can't find anything in the size range I'm looking for...170-178.

Thanks for all the replies people!

Has anyone skied the Orb? My wife is stoked on the Black Crows Ova Birdie and I like their skis a lot.

Or the supernatural? Was I way off track?

**This post was edited on Mar 21st 2018 at 6:39:06pm
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