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J-CDemoed them for a run so this might not be the best review but here it is anyway. I'm 5'7 and 125lb for reference and, I skied the 174 mounted with marker demo bindings set at recommended or close to cant remember. The tech guy was saying that the swallowtail basically adds + or- 10cm to the ski so a 174 will ski like a 184 and the 181 will ski like a 191 ski.
I skied them at Whitewater on packed pow, trees, and groomer. So the first thing you notice when you clip in is the lightness of the skis, they feel really light and are pretty stiff in the tail and nose (maybe mounting them forward a little could help with adding flex to the nose if need be). I have the bad habit of skiing a little tail heavy so I was kinda hesitant to see how they would perform for me thinking I would just wash out if I were to lean back too much. So I dropped in a little chute into an open packed pow field with choppy snow. You honestly do not feel the lack of tail produced by the swallowtail. Every time I had to lean back, the stiffness of the tail held me up almost as if there was a full tail.
They handle all the bumps and choppy snow really well with the huge shovel nose just plowing through. The stiffness underfoot and the camber help you stay centered and keep a good edge through pretty much everything you need. Talking about the edges, they can hold an edge really well at high speed and the sidecut of the ski gives you a really nice variety of turn profiles. I was making big gs turn on top of the groomer and small radius turns at the bottom. mostly with short turns, you can really feel the ski pushing you into your nest turn similar to a racing ski which was really fun. My 186 mordecais are rated at 17m turning radius and I think the savannas are 19m but, the Sakanas felt more powerful when you pushed them and shorter.
Tree skiing was pretty sweet. Thanks to the short length and the sidecut, you can really pivot the ski as you need without the massive nose having too much of an effect on your skiing. I kinda wished I could have skied them in more powder condition and maybe some bigger terrain but in general, I really liked them and they were definitely my favorite pair that day combined with the pescados which felt really similar just larger. I'll probably be picking a pair next season and putting either a pair of kingpins or the new shift from salomon.
japanadaIve got a brand new set of 181...if you all are interested
BASEDJAHno none of us give a fuck that's why we're here in this thread
japanadaBased of messages received, I can say your incorrect on that. To keep you thong from getting stuck too deep in your vagina...
Rode the 181s in packed pow and groomers, super responsive and very quick edge to edge. They love shorter radius turns. I'm a tall guy and would never ski something this short in a traditional ski, but the swallow tail works in giving a longer perceived feel to the ski. If you were to ride these hard in tracked out pow, you will definitely feel them deflect due to the softness in front of the binding through the tips. As a pow ski or corn ski tho, these would be a hell of a lot of fun. Probably work well as a sidecountry/short tour ski too with something like a kingpin/shift.
japanadaIve got a brand new set of 181...if you all are interested
soupcanDo they measure from the tip of the ski to the cut out or to the end of the prong of the tail?
japanadaend of the tail