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I need 360 help...

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skierman_jack
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I ski in New York, so not much vertical. After a while, my buddy and I got bored of the same short hills, so we hit the park (of course after investing in $200 googles to look cool ;)). We are teaching ourselves moves to impress the ladies (why else?) and we recently got to hitting 360's. I can land them, but I always land with my feet apart, off balance. I can't figure out why this is. I thought it was because I was I was starting my rotation before I left the jump (a moderately sized 10' ramp), but nothing changed. Thoughts or suggestions?
Mar 8 2018 11:53AM
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Rparr
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do you have footage of it?
Mar 8 2018 12:07PM
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GhettoYeti
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Sketchy landing is 90% because you have a sketchy takeoff, have weight on your shins and take it easy not a huge set, also the more you do the better you will get
Mar 8 2018 12:22PM
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GhettoYeti
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Sketchy landing is 90% because you have a sketchy takeoff, have weight on your shins and take it easy not a huge set, also the more you do the better you will get
Mar 8 2018 12:37PM
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skierman_jack
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This weekend I'll be down and I'll take videos. Also, the sketchy takeoff makes sense. Again, I am new to this trick, so I am really nervous every time I hit it and that could be part of it. Am I winding up too much and be setting myself off balance in the air?
Mar 8 2018 1:06PM
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GhettoYeti
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More of how you are balanced on takeoff probably leaning a little back if you are nervous
Mar 8 2018 1:55PM
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SuckMySkis
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Shoulders and upper body are everything. Look up and over ur shoulder
Mar 8 2018 2:56PM
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SofaKingSick
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SkylineGTR_R32This weekend I'll be down and I'll take videos. Also, the sketchy takeoff makes sense. Again, I am new to this trick, so I am really nervous every time I hit it and that could be part of it. Am I winding up too much and be setting myself off balance in the air?


yeah generally winding up is unnecessary and leads to problems on 3s. as the other dude said, lean forward and press your shins against the tongues of your boots, and calmly initiate the spin with your core
Mar 8 2018 3:43PM
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skierman_jack
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All good stuff guys, thanks. I'll try all these tips this weekend, and if I still have trouble I'll post vids to this thread.
Mar 8 2018 3:52PM
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GKS
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keep your eyes level. that's honestly it. don't look down, up, or anywhere that isn't straight. if you don't, you'll get a little corked and land awkwardly.
Mar 8 2018 4:34PM
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SurfinCow
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Pratice them on flat ground or a tramp if you have access. If you can do it there doing on skis will be easy
Mar 8 2018 5:18PM
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skierman_jack
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Alrighty...I have found success with my 3's. It was a combination of adjustments: 1). I was hitting the jump WAY too fast and I was landing hard 2). I leaned a little farther forward and found success 3). I tried letting the spin come more natural and wound up less. I am now hitting grabs and crosses during the spin, which is fun. I also spend break in Salt Lake (Brighton, Snowbasin, Alta, & Solitude) which gave me a lot of time to work out the 360 on larger, better maintained jumps. My dad and I also skied 18" of pow at Alta...unbelievable!
Mar 20 2018 1:15PM
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DirtYStylE
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Yeah buddy, feed the stoke! I was just going to say a few things like practice. Spin a few 360s on flat while not moving at all.
Mar 20 2018 1:42PM
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levibonn
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Watch these videos my dude, they helped me a lot I had the same problem last season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5dwEXPxvDA&t=100s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rx769ZQVhw
Mar 22 2018 12:53AM
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losh
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But do you actually have an R32?
Mar 22 2018 5:25PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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loshBut do you actually have an R32?


if he did, he wouldn't need to learn 360s to impress the ladies
Mar 23 2018 9:20AM
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c0ntentcreat0r
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SuckMySkisShoulders and upper body are everything. Look up and over ur shoulder


Shoulders help, but aren't everything. Power and balance stems from the hips/core.
Mar 23 2018 12:07PM
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SuckMySkis
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SteezMcGeeShoulders help, but aren't everything. Power and balance stems from the hips/core.


True but the most common beginner mistake is uneven shoulder posture so most of the times the problem is there
Mar 23 2018 12:27PM
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c0ntentcreat0r
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SuckMySkisTrue but the most common beginner mistake is uneven shoulder posture so most of the times the problem is there


I agree with that 100%. So often I see beginners try to look over the shoulder to spot the landing and they end up dipping their shoulders as if they are trying to cork. As I tell everyone I teach, the key to almost all of skiing is staying centered at all times.
Mar 26 2018 8:08PM
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Jihaddist_jibber
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the base to any good trick is the take off, make sure you pop. Come into the jump with your knees slightly bent and your shins in the front of your boots. Then just stand up/extend and make sure you keep your chest and eyes up and not look down. Its ok if your feet are apart at first because landing it and getting the feel of the trick is the most important part of learning it at first.
Mar 26 2018 11:01PM
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skierman_jack
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I do not own a Nissan R32, but my buddy has one and he wants 8k for it...saving now. My dad just traded in his 2011 STI hatch for a Focus RS, that thing is ludicrous!! I will miss the STI, but it had 150k miles and was falling apart.

And now to skiing... I had a blast this weekend with my 360s. I was able to get better results still on the larger jump, giving me more airtime to hit bigger grabs etc. Once I got the spin, it opened up a whole new world. 540s here I come!! I taught my little bro how to 360 and he loves it. He's 11 and just shredding the park!! Anyways, thanks to all for the help...I will be back for more!
Mar 27 2018 10:36AM
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SofaKingSick
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SkylineGTR_R32And now to skiing... I had a blast this weekend with my 360s. I was able to get better results still on the larger jump, giving me more airtime to hit bigger grabs etc. Once I got the spin, it opened up a whole new world. 540s here I come!! I taught my little bro how to 360 and he loves it. He's 11 and just shredding the park!! Anyways, thanks to all for the help...I will be back for more!


fuuuuck yeah broski feel the hype
Mar 27 2018 11:06AM
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skierman_jack
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FAfn5-gTB_Edix2mNNzDXjiQJu3FGwMd/view?usp=drive_web

Here is a 360 vid from this weekend, and thoughts or critiques?
Mar 27 2018 1:22PM
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JamaicanWeezer
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Lean forward more than back.
Mar 27 2018 2:33PM
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levibonn
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SkylineGTR_R32https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FAfn5-gTB_Edix2mNNzDXjiQJu3FGwMd/view?usp=drive_web

Here is a 360 vid from this weekend, and thoughts or critiques?



Looks pretty good, your set is kinda weird with the half arm wind up before the jump and then going back to normal set
Mar 27 2018 4:05PM
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skierman_jack
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Yeah I noticed the one arm thing. I know I don't usually do that, I think it was a balance thing.
Mar 27 2018 4:40PM
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SKIU4EA
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And honestly, girls don't give a shit about any tricks you send. So don't expect panties to come flying off when they see something that most park skiers would appreciate.

If you're lucky they might say, "Hey, that was kinda neat." and then go back to messing with their phone.

**This post was edited on Mar 27th 2018 at 8:09:32pm
Mar 27 2018 8:08PM
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skierman_jack
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Nah man your all good. I was actually laughing pretty hard! I am fully aware of that, but let me tell you, if she doesn't appreciate skiing, I don't think I want her around me too much. :)
Mar 29 2018 5:28PM
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l.chira
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SkylineGTR_R32Nah man your all good. I was actually laughing pretty hard! I am fully aware of that, but let me tell you, if she doesn't appreciate skiing, I don't think I want her around me too much. :)

facts my guy
Mar 29 2018 6:28PM
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