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I never minded his style, always thought he was clean and controlled, more than a robot, tbh my biggest issue is he wears poc now but I could give a shit.
I saw a similar video by X Games on Youtube about Nick Goepper that goes more in depth... some real shit. It takes balls to come out and admit that stuff publicly, so I have a lot of respect for him for doing that.
It's too easy for people online to make harsh judgements about skiers and other athletes when we only see a very small part of the picture. I'm glad this dude's focus is paying off for him. Seems like he had some growing up to do after the last Olympics and is trying to stay humble this time around.
DeepskierI never minded his style, always thought he was clean and controlled, more than a robot, tbh my biggest issue is he wears poc now but I could give a shit.
A lot of park skiers wear poc helmets they look the best and are really protective helmets
Never understood all the NS hate for Goepper. If hippie killers or whatever nonsense NS loves won X-games golds, I'm sure Nick would learn them in a day. Fact is, triples win Golds and all the little hype boys doing lip blind two ain't got them yet...
Nothing against the Powell Movement Podcast, but that guy comes off like a narcissistic prick from most the interviews he does, from what he has done to capitalize on People like Sprigs, Scholpy and Goepper, while his information is decent its hard to hear because he seems he's just dragging them down, mental wellness is serious a issue that needs to be discussed more, if you want a good piece on this i suggest watching the x games being piece.
lawson14A lot of park skiers wear poc helmets they look the best and are really protective helmets
Profahoben_212Wut
Was more of a joke, I dont give a fuck if he wears poc and by saying thats my biggest issue with him it was supposed to translate into I have no problem with Geopper and always liked him but I guess it didnt read that way.
A post about people who say they had a suicide attempt when they didn't have the balls to do it in reality? Why would this post get deleted? I have friends who i miss alot who killed themselves. In my opinion it takes balls to kill yourself. The 13 year old girls who make a video on youtube about how they tried to kill themselves by drinking a single bottle of cough
Syrup... people like this obviously dont have the balls to kill themselves and are probably terrified of dying (and they know it), so it truly angers me when they try to put themselves in the same category as people who really did have the balls. That being said, just because you have the balls to kill yourself doesnt mean you have to. Its more honorable to have the balls and continue trudging through life than it his to pull half-ass suicide attempts to engender attention and care for yourself.
For all i know Geopper was serious.
But I dont understand why its considered over the line to dislike people who cry wolf.
Truly suicidal people usually dont need a parafde of attention thrown for them.
And although suicide is selfish, a person who jumps off a skyskraper has more balls than someone who takes 5 advil for attention.
If you have a problem with what im saying, go fuck yourself, because i am writing this in mind of my friends who killed themselves, and i dont want them to be conflated with a 13 year old girl who drinks 2 beers and cuts herself then posts a youtube video about her “brush with death”.
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lilvg22Nothing against the Powell Movement Podcast, but that guy comes off like a narcissistic prick from most the interviews he does, from what he has done to capitalize on People like Sprigs, Scholpy and Goepper, while his information is decent its hard to hear because he seems he's just dragging them down, mental wellness is serious a issue that needs to be discussed more, if you want a good piece on this i suggest watching the x games being piece.
After seeing “Being Nick”, hearing his Powell interview, and seeing his performance at the xgames, I was really concerned about his state of mind. You could see his frustration after each of his x game runs. I was afraid that if things didn’t go well at the olympics, he was going to be in a really bad place. I’m glad things worked well at the Olympic s for him and I think not having the circus of the American sweep following him for the next few months like 4 years ago, should help him this time around.
NSdiedWOdlnA post about people who say they had a suicide attempt when they didn't have the balls to do it in reality? Why would this post get deleted? I have friends who i miss alot who killed themselves. In my opinion it takes balls to kill yourself. The 13 year old girls who make a video on youtube about how they tried to kill themselves by drinking a single bottle of cough
Syrup... people like this obviously dont have the balls to kill themselves and are probably terrified of dying (and they know it), so it truly angers me when they try to put themselves in the same category as people who really did have the balls. That being said, just because you have the balls to kill yourself doesnt mean you have to. Its more honorable to have the balls and continue trudging through life than it his to pull half-ass suicide attempts to engender attention and care for yourself.
For all i know Geopper was serious.
But I dont understand why its considered over the line to dislike people who cry wolf.
Truly suicidal people usually dont need a parafde of attention thrown for them.
And although suicide is selfish, a person who jumps off a skyskraper has more balls than someone who takes 5 advil for attention.
If you have a problem with what im saying, go fuck yourself, because i am writing this in mind of my friends who killed themselves, and i dont want them to be conflated with a 13 year old girl who drinks 2 beers and cuts herself then posts a youtube video about her “brush with death”.
**This post was edited on Feb 21st 2018 at 3:25:51pm
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do everyone a favor and just stop posting on newschoolers ok pal?
ghoti_hookAfter seeing “Being Nick”, hearing his Powell interview, and seeing his performance at the xgames, I was really concerned about his state of mind. You could see his frustration after each of his x game runs. I was afraid that if things didn’t go well at the olympics, he was going to be in a really bad place. I’m glad things worked well at the Olympic s for him and I think not having the circus of the American sweep following him for the next few months like 4 years ago, should help him this time around.
I agree with you there. Skiing is a very mental sport with it being an individual sport and high adrenaline filled. Emotions are heavy in competition. You see similar mental battles in ski racing more often, racers storming out of the way of press and people after their runs because they have a hard time dealing with losing. To the pros it is a lot more than just a race or slopestyle event. It is their career and how they will eat/support themselves for the upcoming year.
DeepskierI never minded his style, always thought he was clean and controlled, more than a robot, tbh my biggest issue is he wears poc now but I could give a shit.
In the end of the day Gep switching to POC is probably a money thing. Similar to LJ going with RuRoc and leaving Saga to go to O'neill, they probably got a couple extra bucks out of it
TGraham9In the end of the day Gep switching to POC is probably a money thing. Similar to LJ going with RuRoc and leaving Saga to go to O'neill, they probably got a couple extra bucks out of it
I agree that people who milk their "depression" for views, likes, etc. are scum and take away from those with real mental health issues. However, a thread about someone who has genuinely considered taking his own life seems like the wrong place to be making that point.
Damn, I didn't know this. I wonder if this was around the same time he was hanging out with the hood crew and throwing rocks at cars. Don't even remember what year all that happened but it very well may have been shortly after Sochi.
TGraham9In the end of the day Gep switching to POC is probably a money thing. Similar to LJ going with RuRoc and leaving Saga to go to O'neill, they probably got a couple extra bucks out of it
I'm so confused as to why all of you thought I was serious.
NSdiedWOdlnA post about people who say they had a suicide attempt when they didn't have the balls to do it in reality? Why would this post get deleted? I have friends who i miss alot who killed themselves. In my opinion it takes balls to kill yourself. The 13 year old girls who make a video on youtube about how they tried to kill themselves by drinking a single bottle of cough
Syrup... people like this obviously dont have the balls to kill themselves and are probably terrified of dying (and they know it), so it truly angers me when they try to put themselves in the same category as people who really did have the balls. That being said, just because you have the balls to kill yourself doesnt mean you have to. Its more honorable to have the balls and continue trudging through life than it his to pull half-ass suicide attempts to engender attention and care for yourself.
For all i know Geopper was serious.
But I dont understand why its considered over the line to dislike people who cry wolf.
Truly suicidal people usually dont need a parafde of attention thrown for them.
And although suicide is selfish, a person who jumps off a skyskraper has more balls than someone who takes 5 advil for attention.
If you have a problem with what im saying, go fuck yourself, because i am writing this in mind of my friends who killed themselves, and i dont want them to be conflated with a 13 year old girl who drinks 2 beers and cuts herself then posts a youtube video about her “brush with death”.
**This post was edited on Feb 21st 2018 at 3:25:51pm
**This post was edited on Feb 21st 2018 at 3:30:09pm
Just stop now before you dig yourself a bigger hole. Many people attempting suicide, and no matter how futile the attempt, it is still a cry for help and yes attention because they're depressed and need support, counseling, and guidance to get them through it. That doesn't take anything away from the fact that they need help. Just because your friends were actually successful doesn't mean people who fail are any less in need of help. Historically guys are more successful at suicide because of their methods so there's a reason teenage girls are less successful. Who knows, maybe youtube is their outlet for dealing with it and not going through with it. Plus many people don't want to go through with it, but it may seem the only way they know to get help when they're feeling like shit.
Just don't open up your mouth on the subject anymore because it will show how much less you know about the subject. We can probably all say we know people who have killed themselves, but we might not know about all the people in our lives who have tried. Just because you have a connection to an event, doesn't make you all knowing or something. You sound like a tool. You're an insensitive dick. It take balls to carry on in life.
lilvg22Nothing against the Powell Movement Podcast, but that guy comes off like a narcissistic prick from most the interviews he does, from what he has done to capitalize on People like Sprigs, Scholpy and Goepper, while his information is decent its hard to hear because he seems he's just dragging them down, mental wellness is serious a issue that needs to be discussed more, if you want a good piece on this i suggest watching the x games being piece.
Completely agree, i like getting the inside scoop scoop about what an athlete had gone through and how they started, but the guy just seems like a tool.
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IsitWinterYet17Just stop now before you dig yourself a bigger hole. Many people attempting suicide, and no matter how futile the attempt, it is still a cry for help and yes attention because they're depressed and need support, counseling, and guidance to get them through it. That doesn't take anything away from the fact that they need help. Just because your friends were actually successful doesn't mean people who fail are any less in need of help. Historically guys are more successful at suicide because of their methods so there's a reason teenage girls are less successful. Who knows, maybe youtube is their outlet for dealing with it and not going through with it. Plus many people don't want to go through with it, but it may seem the only way they know to get help when they're feeling like shit.
Just don't open up your mouth on the subject anymore because it will show how much less you know about the subject. We can probably all say we know people who have killed themselves, but we might not know about all the people in our lives who have tried. Just because you have a connection to an event, doesn't make you all knowing or something. You sound like a tool. You're an insensitive dick. It take balls to carry on in life.
Youre worthless, and you didnt really even get my post. Girls choose less successful, half ass methods because they really dont want to die. But they still want to share the attention feast that gets thrown at ppl who attempt suicide. There is a difference. Theres nothing wrong with asking for help, but do that. Dont pretend you are gonna kill yourself when you know youre not. If you are too proud of yourself to tell your friends and family that youre depressed, then nobody should bother wasting their energy on you. I literally have met more girls than not who talk about “my suicide attempt” as if it was some sort of psychiatric right of passage for teenage american girls. Its almost like they need it to feel special.
Go ahead and call me insensitive. The reality is i know how pathologically spoiled american girls are, and you seem to be clueless about it.
Im not judging geopper at all. I really like him and i would be very bummed if he killed himself.
But that doesnt change the fact that for alot of american kids the suicide circuit is an attention game.
NSdiedWOdlnYoure worthless, and you didnt really even get my post. Girls choose less successful, half ass methods because they really dont want to die. But they still want to share the attention feast that gets thrown at ppl who attempt suicide. There is a difference. Theres nothing wrong with asking for help, but do that. Dont pretend you are gonna kill yourself when you know youre not. If you are too proud of yourself to tell your friends and family that youre depressed, then nobody should bother wasting their energy on you. I literally have met more girls than not who talk about “my suicide attempt” as if it was some sort of psychiatric right of passage for teenage american girls. Its almost like they need it to feel special.
Go ahead and call me insensitive. The reality is i know how pathologically spoiled american girls are, and you seem to be clueless about it.
Im not judging geopper at all. I really like him and i would be very bummed if he killed himself.
But that doesnt change the fact that for alot of american kids the suicide circuit is an attention game.
You're walking a very fine line. Yes, method used by women are less effective; your belifes are part of the stigma surrounding suicide. Inform yourself by using these statsics: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide.shtml " Psychiatric right of passage for teenage american girls" is a disgusting line-- as you said, more men commit suicide; dismissing these attempts as "rights" is NOT HELPING. It's almost like these thougths make it harder for men to seek out help, as it's presented as a feminine act to reach out.
Let's end this discussion, it does NOTHING for topic on Goepper's stuggles, if anything it reaffirms people's feelings that no one cares.
(jfc my spelling needed fixed)
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It's sad to hear Nick went through this but it is good that he told the story as I imagine there are others in similar scenarios that don't want to or know how to talk to people about it.
A very important thing to remember about these professionals that we often think of as larger than life, on top of the world heros is that they are just like the rest of us. Everyone struggles from time to time whether it be physically, emotionally or mentally. Glad to hear Nick pushed through. We never like to see hard workers fall out of site and not get the chance to reach their goals.
safarisamYou're walking a very fine line. Yes, method used by women are less effective; your belifes are part of the stigma surrounding suicide. Inform yourself by using these statsics: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/suicide.shtml " Psychiatric right of passage for teenage american girls" is a disgusting line-- as you said, more men commit suicide; dismissing these attempts as "rights" is NOT HELPING. It's almost like these thougths make it harder for men to seek out help, as it's presented as a feminine act to reach out.
Let's end this discussion, it does NOTHING for topic on Goepper's stuggles, if anything it reaffirms people's feelings that no one cares.
(jfc my spelling needed fixed)
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I want people who need help to get it. I never felt any differently. I just dont like ppl who know they never had the balls to end their life parading around about their suicide attempt. Its kind of like people who have never done a thing in the terrain park considering themselves part of the “newschoolers” community because of the clothes they wear when skiing.
NSdiedWOdlnI want people who need help to get it. I never felt any differently. I just dont like ppl who know they never had the balls to end their life parading around about their suicide attempt. Its kind of like people who have never done a thing in the terrain park considering themselves part of the “newschoolers” community because of the clothes they wear when skiing.
Idk if you're just trying to stir up shit like usual but you're not really wrong.
Granted I'm much happier when my friends don't actually kill themselves, and a cry for help is a cry for help, the suicide attempts do kind of annoy me. I don't want people to kill themselves to show that they can follow through but taking 5 advil and drinking a beer is not a suicide attempt.
There's some twisted sort of bragging right about suicide attempts.
If people really want to kill themsleves there are plenty of ways that have pretty high success rates. Some people def look for the I want to be found and not die methods though. Again i dont like having friends kill themselves ao that's fone, but it gets annoying when they do it especially multiple times.
I mean you could drink and take a tonnof pills and wake up, or have somebody find you, have the gun not go off, etc but if you really want to do it, your odds are pretty decent at worst.
Some methods are netter than others, higher success, little to know pain, some are sketchier and more terryfing. Personally I don't think I'd ever jump off a building. You could say "youll be dead in 5-10seconds who cares " but the lead up and the end isn't how Id want to go out. Same with anything painful or low success chance. I mean fuck, people have laid in front of a train and not died, shotgun to the face and not died, etc. Those are def pretty real attemps that went shitty, but having some wine coolers and 2 percs isn't a suicide attempt.
The weird bragging some people do is annoying. I get they want help or attention but I just hate hearing about that.
Maybe I'm a shitty person but whatever. I'm jusy being honest.
NSdiedWOdlnI want people who need help to get it. I never felt any differently. I just dont like ppl who know they never had the balls to end their life parading around about their suicide attempt. Its kind of like people who have never done a thing in the terrain park considering themselves part of the “newschoolers” community because of the clothes they wear when skiing.
There are two things I believe. We shouldn't romanticize sucide and that you are an insensitive prick that thinks he has the world figured out.
You haven't done anything accept mock people who have had suicide attempts for "not having the balls". Like what the fuck?
I reaaallly wish you were trolling. But you're definetly not.
theabortionatorIdk if you're just trying to stir up shit like usual but you're not really wrong.
Granted I'm much happier when my friends don't actually kill themselves, and a cry for help is a cry for help, the suicide attempts do kind of annoy me. I don't want people to kill themselves to show that they can follow through but taking 5 advil and drinking a beer is not a suicide attempt.
There's some twisted sort of bragging right about suicide attempts.
If people really want to kill themsleves there are plenty of ways that have pretty high success rates. Some people def look for the I want to be found and not die methods though. Again i dont like having friends kill themselves ao that's fone, but it gets annoying when they do it especially multiple times.
I mean you could drink and take a tonnof pills and wake up, or have somebody find you, have the gun not go off, etc but if you really want to do it, your odds are pretty decent at worst.
Some methods are netter than others, higher success, little to know pain, some are sketchier and more terryfing. Personally I don't think I'd ever jump off a building. You could say "youll be dead in 5-10seconds who cares " but the lead up and the end isn't how Id want to go out. Same with anything painful or low success chance. I mean fuck, people have laid in front of a train and not died, shotgun to the face and not died, etc. Those are def pretty real attemps that went shitty, but having some wine coolers and 2 percs isn't a suicide attempt.
The weird bragging some people do is annoying. I get they want help or attention but I just hate hearing about that.
Maybe I'm a shitty person but whatever. I'm jusy being honest.
I don't disagree. The romanticising of suicide is fucking terrible.
I know people who have had genuine attempts at suicide but failed....parents finding them hanging etc....and it's not a good thing. These people aren't the ones running around telling everyone about it in my experience. It's a dark time for them....and bringing up those feelings and thoughts is a very hard thing from what I've seen.
People telling people about their attempts etc that weren't actual attempts is annoying, and it diminishes the actual seriousness of suicide and those who are actually debating it. Suicide is not something to be "attempted" for attention....and anybody who does that is a sick shallow fuck.
Anybody who has genuine thoughts please seek help. It's a dark road but you never alone...no matter how alone you feel.
Profahoben_212I don't disagree. The romanticising of suicide is fucking terrible.
I know people who have had genuine attempts at suicide but failed....parents finding them hanging etc....and it's not a good thing. These people aren't the ones running around telling everyone about it in my experience. It's a dark time for them....and bringing up those feelings and thoughts is a very hard thing from what I've seen.
People telling people about their attempts etc that weren't actual attempts is annoying, and it diminishes the actual seriousness of suicide and those who are actually debating it. Suicide is not something to be "attempted" for attention....and anybody who does that is a sick shallow fuck.
Anybody who has genuine thoughts please seek help. It's a dark road but you never alone...no matter how alone you feel.
I honestly feel like I could go either way on the issue of romanticizing/normalizing suicide attempts. Obviously the people who do them for attention are scum, but I also don't like the idea of having to define which attempt is legitimate or not. Every attempt should be taken seriously for the simple reason being that person was in pain and felt the need for something drastic. Each attempt is a cry for help.
For me, I struggle to see if people who are open about their attempts are normalizing or romanticizing them.
On one hand, I think more people being open about them could help people in crisis see that others have gone through similar situations, which could help lessen the feeling of isolation associated with depression. In this view, it's almost better to have more information and knowledge about them rather than being so hush hush on the subject. I don't know if that lessens the severity of the act itself in people's minds.
On the other, you could take an openness on the topic and the attempts to be creating a culture around suicide. Obviously this creation could very easily lead into romanticizing suicide, and we could see an increase in "false" attention seeking attempts. I think this could be the so called "rite of passage" that others previously mentioned in the thread.
I think the path forward should be being open about the issues of mental health with a focus on the creation of safe environments to talk about it as well as seeking professional help.
Shewlur...This was a thing? I never realized Goepper was even friends with any of those guys. It would make sense though with how much he was drinking, etc.
Yeah I looked into it shortly after posting that. Looks like it was right after Sochi when he got caught throwing rocks at cars and he was filming with the hood crew in 2015, so again, after Sochi. It all makes sense now.
AndrewGravesSVI honestly feel like I could go either way on the issue of romanticizing/normalizing suicide attempts. Obviously the people who do them for attention are scum, but I also don't like the idea of having to define which attempt is legitimate or not. Every attempt should be taken seriously for the simple reason being that person was in pain and felt the need for something drastic. Each attempt is a cry for help.
For me, I struggle to see if people who are open about their attempts are normalizing or romanticizing them.
On one hand, I think more people being open about them could help people in crisis see that others have gone through similar situations, which could help lessen the feeling of isolation associated with depression. In this view, it's almost better to have more information and knowledge about them rather than being so hush hush on the subject. I don't know if that lessens the severity of the act itself in people's minds.
On the other, you could take an openness on the topic and the attempts to be creating a culture around suicide. Obviously this creation could very easily lead into romanticizing suicide, and we could see an increase in "false" attention seeking attempts. I think this could be the so called "rite of passage" that others previously mentioned in the thread.
I think the path forward should be being open about the issues of mental health with a focus on the creation of safe environments to talk about it as well as seeking professional help.
I would say their scum at all but I feel you otherwise. It's def pretty annoying though. I've always taken it seriously with friend even if I don't think they are. I'll drive a few hours if I have to and pick someone up, or hang with them or fucking search for them even if it's one of those cry for help things that they want that attention. I def wouldn't want to not go and have shit get real.
I feel you about trying to find the difference though. I remember this christian summer camp I used to go to every year(that was actually super chill) This one year a guy shared his story about getting heavy into drugs, trouble with the law, and other shit before coming back to religion. After he shared his story it was like a circle jerk of how fucked everybody else was. Well I tried drugs too, I did this. It was like bragging about shitty their lives were before Jesus for attention it was weird.
Maybe that's not a good example but personally it's something I think about in this situation all the time even though it's been 14/15 years or so.
I've def see it in other things too. Def that vibe of like "well I tried to kill myself too once" as if that's needed to stay relevant.
It makes it weird too, because people always say "why didn't someone say anything etc" a lot of times people who are serious, internalize a lot of stuff which is probably one of the reasons they're so fucked up. But if you mentioned that you're on the edge and somebodies like " Yeah I wrote a note to my mom and took 3 advil, put on titanic, and waited to die" you're like, well fuck this. I'm ever bothering with this shit again lol.
Idk, this topic just makes me feel weird. Like it brings out a lot of stuff in my head, but it gets my thoughts all jumbled as well and hard to post straightforward.
But like I said I'd rather friends don't kill themselves, but the "attempts" for attention do drain on things a bit. Also I don't blame my friends that have killed themselves. I know that's a big thing, and I understand it. I get the anger if somebody you're close with does it, but I feel for the people in those dark places, and I can't blame them for wanting it to stop.
Sure there are plenty of people that kill themselves in the heat of the moment over something that happens. But there are plenty of people who have been in and out of that edge, things moving in and out of the background for years. some of those people have wanted to kill themselves a ton of times before. Maybe even came pretty close. They never said anything, and just kind of went back to living. I guess if you've been through it before than you can do it again. But I can't blame somebody for just finally saying fuck it, and wanting to be forever at peace.
It's a tough issue. Also there are always people after that in addition to being angry, say "why didn't they say something" "I wish I had known" but then many times if you actually brought it up to people before they wouldn't really have time for you. I get it, there's plenty of shit in life to get dragged down with somebody's shit. But it kind of sucks if they call them out and say they would have cared, when a lot of times, they wouldn't have care that much. It's one of those things where you really start to give a fuck when it's too late and that's understandable, but unfortunate.
Idk, I'm going to shut the fuck up now because I'm rambling like usual. But it's an "interesting" issue. A lot of angles, a lot of emotions. it's a fucking crazy world.
I think it's cool that that video was the first thing when I started typing streetlight. My cousins gf at the time was into ska and sent me that over AIM around 2003, Def helped me deal with some shitty places when Iwas younger. Not as much now but it's a good song.
"I'll draw your bath and I'll load your gun But I hope so bad that you'll bathe and hunt"
Is a pretty fucking cool line imo. Like I'm there for you through anything, I'll be there through anything, but I hope that you'll choose to live. That's way more powerful than the extreme judging that comes into play a lot of times.
Also the will to help them do anything to get away from whatever, start over again, and hopefully find happiness.
Idk, it's a fucking great song and a solid band. I forget about it for long periods of time, but damn, it's got a solid message.
I think it's cool that that video was the first thing when I started typing streetlight. My cousins gf at the time was into ska and sent me that over AIM around 2003, Def helped me deal with some shitty places when Iwas younger. Not as much now but it's a good song.
"I'll draw your bath and I'll load your gun But I hope so bad that you'll bathe and hunt"
Is a pretty fucking cool line imo. Like I'm there for you through anything, I'll be there through anything, but I hope that you'll choose to live. That's way more powerful than the extreme judging that comes into play a lot of times.
Also the will to help them do anything to get away from whatever, start over again, and hopefully find happiness.
Idk, it's a fucking great song and a solid band. I forget about it for long periods of time, but damn, it's got a solid message.
Like I said, it's that strange qualifier in between being normalized and accepted. There's a large faction of people who feel worthless and isolated that can lead to suicide attempts. I don't like being able to go in a quantify which a a throw it wharder witlhbrbanothwrbllofbthan that that's it
As someone who suffers from depression, is a recovering heroin/benzo addict, and recently lost his father to suicide... I know how he feels. I can’t imagine being that successful and being suicidal but I also can’t inagine what being happy is like either.
Stay strong dude.
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As someone who suffers from Depression it can strike anyone at any time. Depression is persistent negative thoughts which mean you cannot enjoy the present. Its when you cannot enjoy your own time by yourself or time spent with other people. People drink, people do drugs, people are non-stop on their phone etc because the moment they have some time to themselves to think, their thoughts are not positive.
This is is an excellent poem about it
“The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.”
― David Foster Wallace
So, I feel exceptional empathy towards someone who commits suicide and exceptional empathy to those that suffer from Depression and are still alive.
slush8As someone who suffers from Depression it can strike anyone at any time. Depression is persistent negative thoughts which mean you cannot enjoy the present. Its when you cannot enjoy your own time by yourself or time spent with other people. People drink, people do drugs, people are non-stop on their phone etc because the moment they have some time to themselves to think, their thoughts are not positive.
This is is an excellent poem about it
“The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.”
― David Foster Wallace
So, I feel exceptional empathy towards someone who commits suicide and exceptional empathy to those that suffer from Depression and are still alive.
This is a shitty poem imo lol but the most accurate analogy I've ever read got me choked up just because it was so dead on
