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What boots to buy?

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L.Watts
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Okay so been skiing FT drop kick boots for about 4 years and have had two sets of them in that time. I already have the stuffed tongue insert that full tilt make but I need something with a bit more of a classic boot flex but is also good for freestyle. I am doing loads of ski instructor exams and piste performance skiing this season so have been looking at some roxa element 120s but no where seems to stock them in-store for me to try and the shops have told me they're cheap. Anyone have any non full tilt recommendations? Like Fischer or Nordica? Something that can really handle a slalom ski and shred the park. Cheers in advance
Feb 8 2018 5:15AM
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Crispy.
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Look into the Atomic Hawx Ultra series.
Feb 8 2018 8:46AM
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powpatrol
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Dalbello il moro is a park-all mountain boot
Most importantly get the boot that fits
Feb 8 2018 11:35AM
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profa_212
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A bootfitter is the only person that can possibly tell you what boot will work for you.

Go to a bootfitter.
Feb 8 2018 12:31PM
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chicken
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Any consumer "race" boot should work. They ski awesome and are not super heavy like a plug boot. The lange/rossi boot is fairly upright which makes it pretty good for park.
Feb 8 2018 12:50PM
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Bondy
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**This post was edited on Feb 17th 2018 at 8:28:46pm
Feb 9 2018 4:10AM
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Casey
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The last 4 pairs of boots I've owned have been Salomon. I am in the Quest 110s right now they are working out really well for me.
Feb 9 2018 1:35PM
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L.Watts
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Obviously in going to go-to a boot fitter but I was asking a general what's recommended or highly rated this season. Cheers guys!
Feb 16 2018 3:03AM
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onenerdykid
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L.WattsObviously in going to go-to a boot fitter but I was asking a general what's recommended or highly rated this season. Cheers guys!


But asking people what they like is part of the problem. Just because someone loves Boot A or Boot B it doesn't mean it will work for you. One of the worst things you can do is go into a shop with a preconceived notion of what boot you ought to be trying on. 9/10 it is not the right thing for you.

What you should do instead is research in your area WHO are the good boot-fitters or what SHOPS are known for their boot-fitting. Research this instead of what brands/models are out there. Find the right shop/fitter and they will find you the best boot for your foot shape and skiing needs. Doing this will lead to a way better skiing experience for you.
Feb 16 2018 4:14AM
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L.Watts
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onenerdykidBut asking people what they like is part of the problem. Just because someone loves Boot A or Boot B it doesn't mean it will work for you. One of the worst things you can do is go into a shop with a preconceived notion of what boot you ought to be trying on. 9/10 it is not the right thing for you.

What you should do instead is research in your area WHO are the good boot-fitters or what SHOPS are known for their boot-fitting. Research this instead of what brands/models are out there. Find the right shop/fitter and they will find you the best boot for your foot shape and skiing needs. Doing this will lead to a way better skiing experience for you.


Alright mate calm down, actually it's a really good point to start because if I know one boot from one brand does the job I want, I then know that I can find something similar in a different brand that fits perfect.
Feb 16 2018 4:16AM
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onenerdykid
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L.WattsAlright mate calm down, actually it's a really good point to start because if I know one boot from one brand does the job I want, I then know that I can find something similar in a different brand that fits perfect.


I wasn't trying to come off as snarky, just trying to give you some helpful pointers as someone who was a professional boot-fitter for 10 years. In my experience, whenever someone wanted to try a specific boot on, it generally led them down the wrong path and wasted an hour of their time.

But all (alpine) boots will generally be right thing for you. It doesn't matter if you ski park, or all mountain, or powder. The right boot will be the one that fits you. That could be a Full Tilt Descendant 6 or an Atomic Redster World Cup 130 (like Nicky Keefer uses). The spectrum is huge and incredibly diverse. You should ignore the marketing behind the boot and get what works for you. When you do this, you will probably be surprised with the outcome.
Feb 16 2018 4:40AM
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Casey
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onenerdykidI wasn't trying to come off as snarky, just trying to give you some helpful pointers as someone who was a professional boot-fitter for 10 years. In my experience, whenever someone wanted to try a specific boot on, it generally led them down the wrong path and wasted an hour of their time.

But all (alpine) boots will generally be right thing for you. It doesn't matter if you ski park, or all mountain, or powder. The right boot will be the one that fits you. That could be a Full Tilt Descendant 6 or an Atomic Redster World Cup 130 (like Nicky Keefer uses). The spectrum is huge and incredibly diverse. You should ignore the marketing behind the boot and get what works for you. When you do this, you will probably be surprised with the outcome.

I take kind of a hybrid approach. I got fitted for a boot that worked really well for me now I have a starting point for trying to replicate that fit when I get a new pair.

But even within a brand the shapes vary a ton. I remember going into a shop being like I have Salomon let's start there, and trying on a boot that was so much narrower in the Achilles than I was used to that it was instantly painful and I couldn't last 5 minutes in them.
Feb 16 2018 11:53AM
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onenerdykid
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CaseyI take kind of a hybrid approach. I got fitted for a boot that worked really well for me now I have a starting point for trying to replicate that fit when I get a new pair.

But even within a brand the shapes vary a ton. I remember going into a shop being like I have Salomon let's start there, and trying on a boot that was so much narrower in the Achilles than I was used to that it was instantly painful and I couldn't last 5 minutes in them.


Once you know what works for you, that is super helpful for the fitter. If someone came in with a boot that they loved but it was simply skied to death, I would try to replicate that fit as closely as possible. It's always helpful when you have a good starting point.
Feb 17 2018 1:35PM
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denvertrash
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Rossi all track pros are sick for all mountain
Feb 17 2018 9:41PM
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L.Watts
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Yo, been to a shop and got measured. I could go for either a 25.5 or a 26.5 but why TF do some sites when in trying to buy my boots say "25/25.5" or 26/26 .5" and others state one size like "26". I'm going for a 26 but if I purchased the 26/26.5 would they be too big? Why can't it be simple ay? 😂
Feb 26 2018 4:40PM
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Non_State_Actor
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L.WattsYo, been to a shop and got measured. I could go for either a 25.5 or a 26.5 but why TF do some sites when in trying to buy my boots say "25/25.5" or 26/26 .5" and others state one size like "26". I'm going for a 26 but if I purchased the 26/26.5 would they be too big? Why can't it be simple ay? 😂


Read through some of the old threads, and stickies, research.

The shell size for most companies is the same for 25+25.5 or 26+26.5 the liner is the only difference.

What did the bootfitter want to put you in? What did you try or what boots are you looking at buying? People may have input on particular fits?

Care to elaborate on the actual size of your feet?
Feb 26 2018 5:42PM
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L.Watts
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mystery3Read through some of the old threads, and stickies, research.

The shell size for most companies is the same for 25+25.5 or 26+26.5 the liner is the only difference.

What did the bootfitter want to put you in? What did you try or what boots are you looking at buying? People may have input on particular fits?

Care to elaborate on the actual size of your feet?


Okay so they wanted to put me in a 25.5, I'm normally a 26.5 but I wanted a performance fit so they went a size below on the new atomic redsters 110 and 130. I am aware the shells are the same. Just seems strange they're selling me a 26/26.5 when the liners will be different so it's either one or the other? I feel like the 25.5 was good if I was going to race train everyday which I am not so I wanted something a tad tighter than a 26.5 so a 26 but I'm a bit lost tbh
Feb 26 2018 5:48PM
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onenerdykid
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L.WattsOkay so they wanted to put me in a 25.5, I'm normally a 26.5 but I wanted a performance fit so they went a size below on the new atomic redsters 110 and 130. I am aware the shells are the same. Just seems strange they're selling me a 26/26.5 when the liners will be different so it's either one or the other? I feel like the 25.5 was good if I was going to race train everyday which I am not so I wanted something a tad tighter than a 26.5 so a 26 but I'm a bit lost tbh


There is literally no difference between the 26 and 26.5. That's why the box and the boot says 26/26.5- it's the same thing. No change to the liner.

Get the 25/25.5 and have it ground and stretched out so that it has the volume of a "real" 26.0.
Feb 27 2018 2:35AM
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L.Watts
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onenerdykidThere is literally no difference between the 26 and 26.5. That's why the box and the boot says 26/26.5- it's the same thing. No change to the liner.

Get the 25/25.5 and have it ground and stretched out so that it has the volume of a "real" 26.0.


Brilliant advice cheers!
Feb 27 2018 2:36AM
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JakeDalBon
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why not just get a new tounge for the ft's if u need a different flex. Save u about $400. I kinda just skimmed through this forum so sorry if u alredy mentioned this haha
Feb 27 2018 11:50AM
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JakeDalBon
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also i have some atomic hawx 2.0 90 boots 26.5 from 2015. I ski park in them with no problems other than toe bang which can be avoided ifu clip ur nails. Im a size 9.5 US so if ur anything close to that i would even consider going a size up.
Feb 27 2018 11:53AM
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Cade2
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Don't listen to this kid ^^^^^^
Feb 27 2018 1:32PM
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Woos
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Go to a boot fitter.

I wear Full Tilts and Dalbellos usually but I really like how Atomic Hawx fit.
Feb 27 2018 4:51PM
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Non_State_Actor
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teamSESHGo to a boot fitter.


Did you read the thread?
Feb 27 2018 5:03PM
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Woos
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mystery3Did you read the thread?


Yep. How about you? I’m just letting him know that I wear the same boots and those two boots also happen to fit me well, just making sure he still goes to a fitter instead of just taking my word for it.

What’s your point?
Feb 27 2018 5:07PM
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powpatrol
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teamSESHGo to a boot fitter.

I wear Full Tilts and Dalbellos usually but I really like how Atomic Hawx fit.

You wear two different boots?
Feb 27 2018 5:11PM
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Woos
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powpatrolYou wear two different boots?


No, I used to wear only Dalbellos but I recently bought some Seth Morrison FTs because I’m broke and they were $200. I was going to buy Atomic Hawx new for $400 and honestly all three boots fit but the Hawx were slightly more comfortable than the FTs. Not $200 better though.
Feb 27 2018 5:27PM
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Non_State_Actor
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teamSESHYep. How about you? I’m just letting him know that I wear the same boots and those two boots also happen to fit me well, just making sure he still goes to a fitter instead of just taking my word for it.

What’s your point?


I took one of OPs posts to mean he went to a boot fitter and was confused by the recommendation, and is looking for clarification.
Feb 27 2018 5:54PM
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Temptationskill
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its all about fit, pretty much every brand makes a boot that can handle a slalom ski your best bet is to go to a shop and try boots on...
Feb 27 2018 7:34PM
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lwgp
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L.WattsYo, been to a shop and got measured. I could go for either a 25.5 or a 26.5 but why TF do some sites when in trying to buy my boots say "25/25.5" or 26/26 .5" and others state one size like "26". I'm going for a 26 but if I purchased the 26/26.5 would they be too big? Why can't it be simple ay? 😂


There is no difference in the SHELL size of the boot between half/full sizes. Reason: it costs manufacturers hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest in purschasing new moulds for boots, and adding half sizes doubles that investment. Sometimes, certain brands may do things to give the illusion of a half size, such as a thicker liner, or, like some salomon boots, including small volume reducers in the box. But most of the time, there isn’t any difference. Tecnica, for example, doesn’t even bother with X.0 sizes, only “half” sizes.
Mar 2 2018 12:55AM
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