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Ward Churchill

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saucerboy84
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If anyone has been watching the news lately you will know who this is. What do you all think of him? Should he be fired. If you have not yet read his article, you should. He compares the 9/11 victims to 'little Eichmanns.' How academic are you all really?

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Feb 11 2005 2:33PM
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Gdawg3
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I go to CU, and I think everyone in the country should keep their noses in their own damn business. We the students pay for his salary, so we the students should be the ones to decide whether or not he should go. I think a couple analogies he used in the essay were wrong, but his overall point was completely valid. Knee-jerk conservative asshole reactions should not get a professor kicked out.


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Feb 11 2005 2:43PM
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saucerboy84
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i agree. and i go to CU too. everyone is trashing this guy, i just want people to read the article and shut up.
Feb 11 2005 2:44PM
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KingShit
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gdawg3 and what was his over all point that was valid then?

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Feb 11 2005 2:48PM
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Phrosty
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most cu kids that support him only do it because he's tryin to stick it to the man. And I mean why not, stick it right in the mans ass.



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Feb 11 2005 3:12PM
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Gdawg3
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The overall point that retains it's validity despite shocking analogies is that when a country such as the United States engages in systemic manipulation and violence of and towards third-world countries, it's bound to come back and bite you in the ass. Ward Churchill, however, neglects the fact that Dick Cheney was the architect of the September 11th bombings, not third-world terrorists.


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Feb 11 2005 4:23PM
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KingShit
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And what about 11 seperate diffrent Islamic conflicts that are going around the world that have absolutely nothing to do with United States policy?


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Feb 11 2005 4:36PM
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KingShit
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Also read this article about your professor that claims to be an Indian.

http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096410305


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Feb 11 2005 4:41PM
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lizziebeth
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haha there was also a funny article in the dirt today about the 'republicans for churchill' group and at least two members who were protesting are registered democrats.

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Feb 11 2005 5:14PM
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jarossamdb7
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i see his point but he did a damn good job of pissing people off. i agree with his poinjt though. he should most definatly not get fucking fired, it is fucking free speech.


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Feb 11 2005 5:19PM
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saucerboy84
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being Indian can be cultural as well as biological. i am not necessarily standing up for him, but the tribe he says he is a member of supports him and even provided security for him at his lecture.
Feb 11 2005 5:24PM
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KingShit
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Saucerboy what you want us to shut up about? If you want us to shut up that makes me think that you agree with him on what he has said about people in the World Trade Center. You think that it is respectful to talk about people that had absolutely nothing to do with the presidents politics and compare them to Nazis? Are you out of your fucking mind to agree with him? I hope you were the motherfucker that 'had it coming to you' on that day and got blown the fuck up. Plus it shows how prestige University of Colorado is by hiring people with false credentials.


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Feb 11 2005 6:02PM
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Melvs
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what's the best way to get you voice noticed? make it loud. Make it ridiuclous.

Seems like he's done that well. More people are reading his essay and buying his book. Maybe he knows how to work people?

His statements are very ridiuclous, but he's getting his name and words out very efficiently.
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Feb 11 2005 6:22PM
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saucerboy84
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you misinterpreted what i was saying and didnt even give me a chance to explain to you what i meant. how mature. i absolutely do not agree with his writing. being from connecticut my family lost friends on 9/11. what i was saying is that i feel that it is very unfair for the media (not only rights) to jump to these conclusions. i will repeat that i do not agree with his comments when i tell you that most of what you have heard or seen is out of context. the gov. of colorado jusmped to conclusions and said some things that have gotten him in trouble. i was curious to know what people thought about the situation on here, and i agree that me saying 'and shut up' was misleading, especially now that ive read it again. but please, dont make yourself look like an immature, ignorant brat again by jumping down my throat for a comment you may have misread. thanks.
Feb 11 2005 9:51PM
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saucerboy84
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however, i do support academic freedom.
Feb 11 2005 9:52PM
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Gdawg3
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And I'm guessing you think the U.S. had nothing to do with any of these 11 conflicts? Surely, the U.S. never would have funded Afghani rebels (including Osama bin Laden), or Iraq, or Israel, or any variety of terrorist organizations across the globe. Jesus Christ, pick up a history book not handed to you by your high school, you might learn something about how the world really works.


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Feb 12 2005 2:21AM
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Utahpowderskier
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what history book would you suggest then?
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Feb 12 2005 2:27AM
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Melvs
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The People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.
-Pat
Feb 12 2005 8:16AM
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Gdawg3
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That, and Crossing the Rubicon by Michael Ruppert.


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Feb 12 2005 12:52PM
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KingShit
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Good job gdwag3 on sounding smart, before you start bluring shit out find out where the conflicts are going on and then tell us that US has to do with it. Also maybe you should learn some world history and find out how many times Islam has tried to take over the world.

http://www.didyouknow.cd/story/conflicts.htm


saucerboy dont talk shit to me, you are the one who fucked up and did not use your head before you typed that shit.


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Feb 12 2005 1:09PM
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Gdawg3
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What was blurry?


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Feb 12 2005 7:06PM
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TwinTipWonder
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Hes got his 10 year. Hes stayin put. Plus, hes been publishing shit like this for a long time, but no one seemed to notice.
>>> Matty
Feb 12 2005 11:39PM
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bigJ
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He is not being fired, he should not being fired, he is an arrogent douche bag and an asshole and should be taken out back and shot, but not fired. Free speech, he is a motherfucker but he shouldn't and will not be fired, but he should just be shot. Fuck him. I say him on C-Span and I just wanted to kick his ass. That fucker.



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Feb 13 2005 12:19AM
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bigJ
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And if he was here at the University of South Carolina he would have been strung up already, and I am not even kidding.



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Feb 13 2005 12:21AM
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