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Most Influential/Revolutionary Trick?

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thebusiness19
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Inb4 cork or lip blind 2...

But seriously I was just thinking about what has changed the game the most when it first happened
Obviously the switch 10 was huge when that first came out, and the way Mikael Deschenaux used to just bang 'em I think was a real influencer, especially on an early E Dollo

Frej Johnsson (where he at now though) and bringing the first dub 7. Some say E Dollo did it first in Education of Style, but it was released later, but Frej doing it in a comp in front all of the best at the time, and no less the insanely big kicker that was JOI was definitely a game changer. I think it got people to think less along the lines of just adding 180 to whatever dub they were doing and reconsider axes.

Along that line, Bobby winning X big air/slope that one year with the switch dub misty 12/14 with the classic Bobby mute, also added variety to axes being used in comps

definitely gotta mention Jon Olsson and the kang/"hexo" flip as practically being the first modern "doubles"

EDollo bringing the nosebutter to comp, I can firmly say without Edollo/that trick, most likely comps would have not seen nosebutters off jumps for who knows who long, still haven't seen anyone do the tailbutter dub in a comp

In the non comp realm

Delorme with the tail drag cork 5, similar to Hornbeck's shuffles it was just a way to varied the standard approach of taking off a jump and landing

Casablunt cork 1/sw cork 3

Tabidaque, hand-dragging on rails and pretzel drags, not like hand drags hadn't been done before on rails, but just one edit being dominated by so many variations

Frank Raymond populating no lip urban-bringing more skateboard influence in

Idk, probably overkill, in finals right now and definitely avoiding it (Im 12 btw), what do you guys think?
Dec 16 2017 9:26AM
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Park_Ranger
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This, this one right here is a solid thread.

Without putting a ton of thought into it, I would say the Kang/first of the modern dubs. The double cork changed the sport so much, both on and off the comp scene. It opened up a plethora of new possibilities and challenges for the sport to progress off of. People were freaking out for years once Dubs hit the scene.... they really separated a lot of pro skiers from the rest of the pack.
Dec 16 2017 10:02AM
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AdiibA
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nice thread, i have to think a little about this. anyone know who did the first unnatural dub cork?
Dec 16 2017 10:33AM
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twoshanes
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the blunt grab
Dec 16 2017 10:45AM
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Burgy
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the switch
Dec 16 2017 11:22AM
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a_burger
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clearly the bunch bounce
Dec 16 2017 11:49AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Burgythe switch


the switch is a dangerous maneuver that should only be attempted by professionals
Dec 16 2017 11:55AM
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JAHpow
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Crowd pleaser backie
Dec 16 2017 12:07PM
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Dex
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Vanular was the one to bring nosebutters to comps.. He was doing the nosebutter 9 blunts when everyone was doin dub 12/10s in city big airs.. Also Cvan with the flat 4 to rail was pretty next level.
Dec 16 2017 12:31PM
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Way*Mo
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Pep's huge right and left 540s into powder in Session1242
Dec 16 2017 4:52PM
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fredyferl
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a_burgerclearly the bunch bounce

Hahaha was about to say this
Dec 16 2017 5:30PM
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theabortionator
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Moselys "dinner roll" flat 7 dealio. Was less about the trick and more about opening up skiing to inverts. If nothing else it changed that area of the sport. And people were able to go inverted in comps after. Obviously moguls has died with the rise of slopestyle but I still think that was a big moment.
Dec 16 2017 5:34PM
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.FRY.
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Vanular’s rodeo 810 on to down box and Candide’s 810 on to dfd were both insane. Can’t really say how much these tricks had on park culture but still crazy.
Dec 16 2017 5:35PM
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frickindarn
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JAHpowCrowd pleaser backie


This is what I was going to say. Back in the day they had twisters, daffys and cossacks but i think backies are what started the big rotations and was a huge innovation for the sport.
Dec 16 2017 6:22PM
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hi_vis360
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the mute grab
Dec 16 2017 6:38PM
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drewolson24
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wizardry
Dec 16 2017 8:49PM
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bennwithtwons
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K-Fed yo!

in a close second.. lip on back two
Dec 16 2017 9:21PM
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corona
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Jon's kangaroo flip and such really was the start of a whole new competition scene with doubles taking over. That has to be one of the more influential tricks.

Also Seth's flips in the bc off massive cliffs had to have influenced a ton of skiers
Dec 16 2017 10:43PM
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Newschooleri.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdOUexGuRM

In my opinion, it was the triple; more specifically Sammy Carlsons'. Seeing such a technical trick being done probably pushed the sport in the direction of creating proper training facilities and programs. With more training programs and facilities came the possibilities for learning new inverts, spins, grabs in a more safe environment. Combine that with social media booming at the same time, skiers were able to see tons of new content instantly which would drive progression because you look at videos and say "oh I wanna try that". I wouldn't say we are today because of a single "trick"; it is more about exposure and money, which brings better training facilities and parks that ultimately fuel progression.

**This post was edited on Dec 16th 2017 at 10:53:39pm
Dec 16 2017 10:53PM
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FUUUCK
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AdiibAnice thread, i have to think a little about this. anyone know who did the first unnatural dub cork?


I want to say Andreas... around JOSS 2010
Dec 16 2017 11:10PM
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saskskier
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Pep's 180 cliff drop
Dec 17 2017 2:12AM
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mcnamarskiez
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switch cork 5 super slow and steezed the fuck out did it for me back in the day..... still the best
Dec 17 2017 2:15AM
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DFJ
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Kinda "new" to be super influential right now but tips under on rails.
I would say Keegan's tips under since that was the first time I saw it, but I don't actually know if that is the first
Dec 17 2017 3:20AM
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thebusiness19
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DFJKinda "new" to be super influential right now but tips under on rails.
I would say Keegan's tips under since that was the first time I saw it, but I don't actually know if that is the first


I would def agree on the tips down...pretty sure Wabs/Wallisch were the first but Keegan def made it like a thing
Dec 17 2017 9:12AM
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lil.Boye
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only trick
Dec 17 2017 10:46AM
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RousedWits
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Spread eagle... With or without the dick grab.
Dec 17 2017 12:44PM
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-Dan
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Hard to say the most revolutionary becuase we've been progressing at insane rates over the years. There have been era defining tricks and standout moments over the years. I wasnt super in tune pre-2008 either so I can't speak to that era. Since i've been paying close attention, for me the one trick that stands out is Kieran's 2 tailpress pretz 2 at r2r in 2012. Of course this is where I was at the time so it seems like a big deal to me, but maybe no one else cared. at 1:00 in this video.
Dec 17 2017 5:55PM
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.lencon
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CRJ with the 1440.
CRJ with both way 360s.
CRJ with his unreal bio spins.
Dec 17 2017 9:55PM
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skiznuts
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thebusiness19Inb4 cork or lip blind 2...

But seriously I was just thinking about what has changed the game the most when it first happened
Obviously the switch 10 was huge when that first came out, and the way Mikael Deschenaux used to just bang 'em I think was a real influencer, especially on an early E Dollo

Frej Johnsson (where he at now though) and bringing the first dub 7. Some say E Dollo did it first in Education of Style, but it was released later, but Frej doing it in a comp in front all of the best at the time, and no less the insanely big kicker that was JOI was definitely a game changer. I think it got people to think less along the lines of just adding 180 to whatever dub they were doing and reconsider axes.

Along that line, Bobby winning X big air/slope that one year with the switch dub misty 12/14 with the classic Bobby mute, also added variety to axes being used in comps

definitely gotta mention Jon Olsson and the kang/"hexo" flip as practically being the first modern "doubles"

EDollo bringing the nosebutter to comp, I can firmly say without Edollo/that trick, most likely comps would have not seen nosebutters off jumps for who knows who long, still haven't seen anyone do the tailbutter dub in a comp

In the non comp realm

Delorme with the tail drag cork 5, similar to Hornbeck's shuffles it was just a way to varied the standard approach of taking off a jump and landing

Casablunt cork 1/sw cork 3

Tabidaque, hand-dragging on rails and pretzel drags, not like hand drags hadn't been done before on rails, but just one edit being dominated by so many variations

Frank Raymond populating no lip urban-bringing more skateboard influence in

Idk, probably overkill, in finals right now and definitely avoiding it (Im 12 btw), what do you guys think?


where did phil do cork 1?
Dec 18 2017 8:37AM
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search4freshies
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Gotta take it back a decade or 2 to the OG's. Seth's MEGA-sender front flips, JP's classy mute backie, and old Miguel Douglas' D spins.
Dec 18 2017 9:38AM
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SofaKingSick
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tough call but fun to think about

jon's kang flip really opened the door for dubs and trips. before that people had done some sick ones (risky flips, wilson's dubs, people did on-axis dubs a ton) but they were still considered "circus tricks" by most in the scene in the 2000s. for some reason jon made them stick and catch on, starting with the kang

cork 3 really has to be up there too though. tanner's motionless one in 1242 was a big turning point in style and tricks i think

pretzels were a big paradigm shift too. i remember vanular did one in a video on here and people didnt even agree on what to call it at first
Dec 18 2017 1:07PM
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r._ed
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Without a doubt JO Kangaroo flip. It's been said above but this is the trick that made people realize the variety of doubles that are possible on skis.
Dec 20 2017 12:08AM
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cory.iyoob
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Not a trick, but Clayton vilas mutiny segment was pretty revolutionary for the urban/film game.
Dec 20 2017 9:04AM
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BenWhit
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Newschooleri.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdOUexGuRM

In my opinion, it was the triple; more specifically Sammy Carlsons'. Seeing such a technical trick being done probably pushed the sport in the direction of creating proper training facilities and programs. With more training programs and facilities came the possibilities for learning new inverts, spins, grabs in a more safe environment. Combine that with social media booming at the same time, skiers were able to see tons of new content instantly which would drive progression because you look at videos and say "oh I wanna try that". I wouldn't say we are today because of a single "trick"; it is more about exposure and money, which brings better training facilities and parks that ultimately fuel progression.

**This post was edited on Dec 16th 2017 at 10:53:39pm


this confused me because I said to myself, "well, that wasn't very long ago..." Looked at the video and it was uploaded in 2010... insane. That trick was way before it's time.
Dec 20 2017 10:24AM
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