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Christian_Balepartially disagree but hear me out this one.
It is always more impressive when the stairs are bare, plus it's good to be able to count the stairs. That being said, it really depends on the spot you're hitting. Buried stairs for a downrail or mellow dfd is basically a park clip to me. When I see a rail I would never consider hitting and there's some snow on the stairs, it doesn't really bother me. People were saying the opening clip in dustbox is basically a park clip cuz there was snow on the stairs but that rail is not something you'd ever find in a park. Also, if there's a two person crew hitting a spot and it's been dumping snow I don't necessarily expect them to dig out the stairs completely. Also depends on if the stairs are wood or concrete or whatever. Some stairs slide way better and some are easier to catch on. Basically what I'm saying is that it doesn't necessarily ruin my enjoyment for a clip. Like that one rail Raf hit wasn't dug out but the rail itself was crazy and he said that he didn't even expect to get it so I'm not gonna hate on it. When I hear this take I respect it more if I hear it from someone who's skied a decent amount of street versus someone who doesn't really have firsthand knowledge. Not saying this is you but it annoys me when I see people talking shit on instagram who don't have street clips posted.
I almost changed my mind until you used Instagram as your closing argument.
ecsm.I almost changed my mind until you used Instagram as your closing argument.
Haha that's fair. Was just annoyed reading some of the comments on jibbingsnotdead and seeing people saying that the skiers on forre are "mid" because they don't always dig out the stairs entirely
Christian_BaleHaha that's fair. Was just annoyed reading some of the comments on jibbingsnotdead and seeing people saying that the skiers on forre are "mid" because they don't always dig out the stairs entirely
It's the ancestor of today's action sports cameras. And the only way to get quality on-board images in 2007. It was very shaky, few shots were well framed, 100% handmade, and probably far from light. But for the ski world at least, it was a first.
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The segment was filmed a few months before the commercial launch of the GoPro Digital Hero 3
Aren't there other helmet cam-style shots from older movies prior to GoPros too? I feel like MSP and TGR have a few flicks with some big mountain skiers wearing goofy camera setups on their helmets with a batterypack attached. I feel like McConkey had a few ski base jump clips in movies too. Greg Stump had some pretty cool camera setups too for Blizzard of Ahhs as well.
**This post was edited on Nov 20th 2023 at 11:06:07am
CoolChillGuy420Aren't there other helmet cam-style shots from older movies prior to GoPros too? I feel like MSP and TGR have a few flicks with some big mountain skiers wearing goofy camera setups on their helmets with a batterypack attached. I feel like McConkey had a few ski base jump clips in movies too. Greg Stump had some pretty cool camera setups too for Blizzard of Ahhs as well.
**This post was edited on Nov 20th 2023 at 11:06:07am
was a sony one for a while, not sure if was before or after the hero 3
My unpopular opinion - Horizon Tech is overrated. Makes sense on the Bent120 but could care less on all other applications. Makes butters weird on piste and is simply unnecessary.
I love Chris Benchetler and atomic as a brand overall. I've yet to ski the Bent 110 - I LOVED my Blogs back in the day but I know I'd prefer without the horizon tech. I'll still give'm a spin at some point this season - I'm just out here unpopular-opinioning
nCrowNew child labor was kinda boring. Like the skiing is sick, but I feel like there's nothing unique or interesting about the filming or editing. Wasn't really left with any memorable impressions
SlushSeasonI thought it was a really well put together ski movie. It had better and more balanced b-roll than a lot of other films this year. The skiing was great and i really liked most of the music.
It wasn't revolutionary, but i think it was way better than some of the supposed "heavy hitters" like Brushino
Agree with both of these takes, better than brushino but also not the most memorable project ever
SlushSeasonI thought it was a really well put together ski movie. It had better and more balanced b-roll than a lot of other films this year. The skiing was great and i really liked most of the music.
It wasn't revolutionary, but i think it was way better than some of the supposed "heavy hitters" like Brushino
harlaut hasn't really been putting out any "revolutionary" projects since the one he put out with the apparel crew. Brushino, for something being put on Benny the Butcher's channel, someone with pretty big influence, there really wasn't anything stunning
People spaz way too hard over gear. imo a good skier should be able to ski pretty much the same way on skis of all ends of the spectrum. just get a pair of skis and go ski
Weekendwarrior69People spaz way too hard over gear. imo a good skier should be able to ski pretty much the same way on skis of all ends of the spectrum. just get a pair of skis and go ski
Go try and slide rails on some wrenagades then slam some moguls with wets.
There is definitely different classes, but once you get comfortable enough on skis, you’ll know what you want/don’t want in a pair of skis.
My style definitely switches up depending on what I’m on that day
Weekendwarrior69People spaz way too hard over gear. imo a good skier should be able to ski pretty much the same way on skis of all ends of the spectrum. just get a pair of skis and go ski
Weekendwarrior69People spaz way too hard over gear. imo a good skier should be able to ski pretty much the same way on skis of all ends of the spectrum. just get a pair of skis and go ski
As long as the skis are in the same class yeah. There isn’t gonna be a massive difference between two brands mid fat park ski
Theres no excuse to not put up a milly tube and an uprail at the tiny park in snowmass, our park crew just sucks ass. Its always some random ass shitty setup that sucks for early season. Right now for the "hard" line in the park its a tiny down rail, up to flat box, then a 30ft rail, and the kickers change daily. Its not that I cant work with these features, it just sucks ass seeing normal good setups everywhere else then having this bullshit year after year done by the same idiots.
So many videos these days try way too hard and forget that skiing is supposed to be fun.
I'll take a rowdy resort, park or powder segment over fake dramatic and artsy segments every time!
Ditch the ridiculous levels of B-roll and super intense music and get us hyped on skiing.
olicSo many videos these days try way too hard and forget that skiing is supposed to be fun.
I'll take a rowdy resort, park or powder segment over fake dramatic and artsy segments every time!
Ditch the ridiculous levels of B-roll and super intense music and get us hyped on skiing.
Mutiny is the exception to the rule.
agreed. mutiny only pulled it off because the skiing, shooting, and editing was so good, imo it was when stept finally really flowered into what they'd wanted to be for years
Lenny-Theres no excuse to not put up a milly tube and an uprail at the tiny park in snowmass, our park crew just sucks ass. Its always some random ass shitty setup that sucks for early season. Right now for the "hard" line in the park its a tiny down rail, up to flat box, then a 30ft rail, and the kickers change daily. Its not that I cant work with these features, it just sucks ass seeing normal good setups everywhere else then having this bullshit year after year done by the same idiots.
The bare minimum for any park should be a flat box and fat tube, I don’t know how people screw this up so often
asparagusThe bare minimum for any park should be a flat box and fat tube, I don’t know how people screw this up so often
They updated it to this a week or so ago. Im happy with it personally but defenitly not the best setup for learning your first rail or whatever. Got my first switch lip of the season on the first rail though. Goal rn is to b2 out to the right on the wall rail without landing in the flat.
Just saw Seamus commented on a level 1/forre insta post and asked what happened to people shoveling the stairs for clips. Hornbeck chimed in on it too. curious what people think about this.
Christian_BaleJust saw Seamus commented on a level 1/forre insta post and asked what happened to people shoveling the stairs for clips. Hornbeck chimed in on it too. curious what people think about this.
I think a lot of people get into trying urban without learning any of the history. If I wasn't on newschoolers, I would never have thought to clear snow off stairs doing urban or even recognized that fact in clips (not that I ever have done that kind of urban).
Christian_BaleJust saw Seamus commented on a level 1/forre insta post and asked what happened to people shoveling the stairs for clips. Hornbeck chimed in on it too. curious what people think about this.
It's valid because one of em responded saying "cleaning the stairs would have taken days" but the CL boys bring fuckin pickaxes and spend hours on end shoveling out spots. It doesn't matter for 99% of the crews but when you are as talented as forre and create such high level work, with incredible attention to detail, it's kinda strange that they skimp out on that end. They also make these big ass builds for their spots and drag a winch to half of them, I can't imagine shoveling the stairs would be THAT much more effort then they already put in so I can see why he was curious about that, because its not like the effort isn't there in the other aspects.
