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270on420out
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Gloves look ugly on every skier even pros
Dec 10 2017 12:52AM
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.Tom.
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SchoessHe filmed the entire thing with a broken wrist...


Ok good point, I stand by it being a subpar edit though. I don't tend to judge my enjoyment of an edit based on how injured the skier is I guess.
Jan 20 2023 12:18PM
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Schoess
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.Tom.Ok good point, I stand by it being a subpar edit though. I don't tend to judge my enjoyment of an edit based on how injured the skier is I guess.


You don't consider the circumstances of the skier and video to be a factor of how good the video is?
Jan 20 2023 12:19PM
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.Tom.
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SchoessYou don't consider the circumstances of the skier and video to be a factor of how good the video is?


I guess I consider it but I wouldn't say it has a huge impact, like Candide Kamera definitely hits harder for being a 'return from injury' edit. But regardless of the return from injury part it's still an amazing edit. This edit has no legs without the broken wrist, and with it maybe brings it to an 'average' standard for me, still dissapointing from a guy that's put out some of the heaviest street parts of all time.
Jan 20 2023 12:22PM
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.Tom.
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SchoessYou don't consider the circumstances of the skier and video to be a factor of how good the video is?


Might just be a personal thing though. Like i reaaally hate those "14 year old does a dub 14" edits. I don't really care how old you are, the edit is a stand alone thing for me, the skier's circumstances don't matter that much to me.
Jan 20 2023 12:25PM
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Schoess
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.Tom.Might just be a personal thing though. Like i reaaally hate those "14 year old does a dub 14" edits. I don't really care how old you are, the edit is a stand alone thing for me, the skier's circumstances don't matter that much to me.


So by that logic, Trevor Kennison should be doing all of the same stuff as any other pro skier then. Have you ever has a serious injury before? I'm wondering because it affects everything about your skiing, even if it's not directly involved in the trick. Imagine the pain you would be in if you slipped and fell on a broken wrist. Now you go street skiing and slide some dub kinks and shit. How is that not an important factor of the video?
Jan 20 2023 12:39PM
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.Tom.
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SchoessSo by that logic, Trevor Kennison should be doing all of the same stuff as any other pro skier then. Have you ever has a serious injury before? I'm wondering because it affects everything about your skiing, even if it's not directly involved in the trick. Imagine the pain you would be in if you slipped and fell on a broken wrist. Now you go street skiing and slide some dub kinks and shit. How is that not an important factor of the video?


Ok man, take a deep breath, slow down, and read what I'm saying haha.



I said "circumstances don't matter that much to me". I did not say they are completely irrelevant. Obviously I don't expect Trevor to be doing the exact same stuff as any pro skier. That dude blows my mind, I think the shit he does is insane and that is obviously largely driven by his particular circumstance. Does that mean I'm going to love every piece of content he puts out? No, I'll still judge it on it's merits, if Trevor put out an edit below his usual standard i'd judge it accordingly.



I have had serious injuries yes, but personally if I put out an edit I would expect people to judge it on its own merits. I don't really like making excuses for myself personally. Like I said before, sure, if I had a broken wrist I would expect people maybe to cut me some slack, but if I put out an average edit I wouldn't expect people to just say it's amazing when it's not just because of that.

This Henrik edit isn't terrible, i also don't think it's anything special. Does him having a broken wrist matter? Yes, of course it does, it's impressive that he stacked a lot of these shots while injured. Does that make this a sick edit or do I still think it's kinda weak, personally, I think it's kinda weak. You obviously disagree, that's fine, unpopular opinion thread doing it's job haha.
Jan 20 2023 12:55PM
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Schoess
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.Tom.Ok man, take a deep breath, slow down, and read what I'm saying haha.



I said "circumstances don't matter that much to me". I did not say they are completely irrelevant. Obviously I don't expect Trevor to be doing the exact same stuff as any pro skier. That dude blows my mind, I think the shit he does is insane and that is obviously largely driven by his particular circumstance. Does that mean I'm going to love every piece of content he puts out? No, I'll still judge it on it's merits, if Trevor put out an edit below his usual standard i'd judge it accordingly.



I have had serious injuries yes, but personally if I put out an edit I would expect people to judge it on its own merits. I don't really like making excuses for myself personally. Like I said before, sure, if I had a broken wrist I would expect people maybe to cut me some slack, but if I put out an average edit I wouldn't expect people to just say it's amazing when it's not just because of that.

This Henrik edit isn't terrible, i also don't think it's anything special. Does him having a broken wrist matter? Yes, of course it does, it's impressive that he stacked a lot of these shots while injured. Does that make this a sick edit or do I still think it's kinda weak, personally, I think it's kinda weak. You obviously disagree, that's fine, unpopular opinion thread doing it's job haha.

lol im focused on breathing
Jan 20 2023 1:08PM
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skierman
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.Tom.The latest Henrik street edit is super disappointing, had a handful of bangers but considering the standard I expect from one of the street GOAT's I thought it was pretty weak. The closer is him sliding a double kink then doing a 180...


Pretty weak to think he can still do the wild shit he was doing at the peak of his career 6-9 years ago. In action sports years, he's a fucking boomer and still killing it way harder than the popular vishnu bunchie douchebags.
Jan 20 2023 2:23PM
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verynormalguy
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The random shots of black people peppered in there was an odd editing choice
.Tom.The latest Henrik street edit is super disappointing, had a handful of bangers but considering the standard I expect from one of the street GOAT's I thought it was pretty weak. The closer is him sliding a double kink then doing a 180...
Jan 20 2023 9:09PM
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TOAST.
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riding new skis in the park sucks. feel like I need to baby them, but really just want to smash into stuff.
Jan 20 2023 9:56PM
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.Tom.
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tootspaceThe random shots of black people peppered in there was an odd editing choice

Yeh agreed, my impression was he was trying to draw parallels between his 'hustle' and theirs which doesn't feel super appropriate imo.
Jan 20 2023 9:57PM
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Farmville420
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tootspaceThe random shots of black people peppered in there was an odd editing choice

While wearing a durag. Also side note: Am I crazy or did all the people shown in the video look pissed? I feel like not one person besides him and Noah looked stoked at any point in the video. Really weird vibe.
Jan 20 2023 11:22PM
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Slowbro
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TOAST.riding new skis in the park sucks. feel like I need to baby them, but really just want to smash into stuff.


This feeling lasts for me until I whack one of the tips into a rail or get some edge cracks. And then I can destroy them and feel okay about it lol
Jan 21 2023 9:04AM
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TroyBallsack
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just rewatched something in the water by mango and again was disappointed. idk his last 2 edits felt like they focused on the cinematogrophy more than the actual skiing. like bro is probably way happier not filming street shit but hes not the animal he once was imo.
Jan 21 2023 10:18AM
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K-Dot.
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.Tom.The latest Henrik street edit is super disappointing, had a handful of bangers but considering the standard I expect from one of the street GOAT's I thought it was pretty weak. The closer is him sliding a double kink then doing a 180...

This website sometimes man. The edit was like 90% shots that would be closer shots for most other skiers making a year long street film. Dude releases a little six minute edit of some shots that won’t make the final cut yet are still more stylish than the large majority of people street skiing and y’all still complain.

Touch snow, log off
Jan 21 2023 2:06PM
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cool270out
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Glad someone else said it first. These dollo edits are getting really weird. The du-rag and the shot of a black person (every time) and then panning to him skiing. You’re an extremely wealthy heir to a champagne company, you ain’t him. Big time tokenism and a general lack of cultural awareness
Jan 21 2023 2:47PM
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skierman
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cool270outGlad someone else said it first. These dollo edits are getting really weird. The du-rag and the shot of a black person (every time) and then panning to him skiing. You’re an extremely wealthy heir to a champagne company, you ain’t him. Big time tokenism and a general lack of cultural awareness


Oh yeah, there was a black person in every shot?

When all you see are black people despite an equal number of shots of white NPCs, you got a fucking hang up on race.


And yeah, Henrik has been rocking durags for decades now because he grew up loving rap music, you over-sensitive, fucking retards.
Jan 21 2023 7:22PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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I agree Henrik edits' music has gone downhill a lot. I thought the skiing was still enjoyable to watch and inspiring, though
Jan 22 2023 12:32AM
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Christian_Bale
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tootspaceThe random shots of black people peppered in there was an odd editing choice

A little odd but I believe they were filming in Buffalo
Jan 22 2023 1:32AM
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Christian_Bale
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WoFlowzeat the guts and the cromat version of zootspace we’re both better than zootspace. It’s just a wanna be snowboard video. Kiss my ass idgaf

ps marry me Andy Partridge or Ian King

yeah personally I like those two more but I disagree that ZS is a wannabe snowboard video. And even if it is, you gotta admit that it stands out a lot compared to other ski videos that came out around the same time. Or to any ski videos since for that matter
Jan 22 2023 1:43AM
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STEEZUS_CHRI5T
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.Tom.The latest Henrik street edit is super disappointing, had a handful of bangers but considering the standard I expect from one of the street GOAT's I thought it was pretty weak. The closer is him sliding a double kink then doing a 180...

yea I didn’t care for it. I put up with it for a few minutes and gave up. That shot of him wearing a duck hat was where I threw in the towel
Jan 22 2023 10:04AM
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nCrow
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timdrachanjust rewatched something in the water by mango and again was disappointed. idk his last 2 edits felt like they focused on the cinematogrophy more than the actual skiing. like bro is probably way happier not filming street shit but hes not the animal he once was imo.


Brady Perron's recent edits have all been like this. Doing way too much with cinematography and editing in that way makes for a mid and kinda pretentious ski edit
Jan 22 2023 11:23AM
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Jems
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nCrowBrady Perron's recent edits have all been like this. Doing way too much with cinematography and editing in that way makes for a mid and kinda pretentious ski edit

agreed, pretty sure the somewhat recent vid between him and mango was really boring and was mostly him flexing his camera skills.
Jan 22 2023 12:32PM
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tutipups
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ReturnToMonkeyI agree Henrik edits' music has gone downhill a lot. I thought the skiing was still enjoyable to watch and inspiring, though

i just want harlaut to make one ski movie with some wu tang
Jan 22 2023 3:19PM
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Frenchibre
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L1 realtime japan powder segment is the best of all time
Jan 22 2023 3:44PM
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Jems
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tutipupsi just want harlaut to make one ski movie with some wu tang

would be the most cliche shit ever
Jan 22 2023 4:26PM
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Slowbro
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Jemswould be the most cliche shit ever

It’s Henrik though he invented those cliches
Jan 22 2023 5:22PM
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Jems
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SlowbroIt’s Henrik though he invented those cliches

no he didn’t
Jan 22 2023 5:35PM
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hi_vis360
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FrenchibreL1 realtime japan powder segment is the best of all time


Agreed
Jan 22 2023 6:00PM
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.Tom.
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Reasons tho, Benchetler and Auclair is pretty all time:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1061940/Powder-Skiing-in-Niseko--Japan--2008----Chris-Benchetler-and-JP-Auclair-
FrenchibreL1 realtime japan powder segment is the best of all time


**This post was edited on Jan 22nd 2023 at 6:39:05pm
Jan 22 2023 6:36PM
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Slowbro
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Jemsno he didn’t


You’re right it was probably Deschenaux but Henrik made it cliche with B&E show and all the other edits from 2008-2012 with shitty Method Man and Redman songs
Jan 22 2023 8:01PM
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CantThinkOfaName
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If you unironically call people a jerry you’re the biggest loser on the hill
Jan 22 2023 9:34PM
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Vish-shoe
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I hate it when we’ll known pros come to my hill. We had Alex hall come a few weeks ago and the place was fuckin packed for the next week. The worst bullshit. Having the chill lesser known pros is cool though.
Jan 24 2023 1:02PM
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Jems
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JITYI hate it when we’ll known pros come to my hill. We had Alex hall come a few weeks ago and the place was fuckin packed for the next week. The worst bullshit. Having the chill lesser known pros is cool though.

alex hall hit up hyland and proceeded to be stormed by every minor in the area dude probably didn’t even get to ski without some montec wearing 13 year old asks for his autograph
Jan 24 2023 1:09PM
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Slowbro
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JITYI hate it when we’ll known pros come to my hill. We had Alex hall come a few weeks ago and the place was fuckin packed for the next week. The worst bullshit. Having the chill lesser known pros is cool though.


All of the pipe pros were at my hill for WC the other day and literally none of them got bothered except for Eileen Gu. Birk Irving and Hunter Hess were in the lodge and no one talked to them other than me and then Gu was there with a bodyguard lmao
Jan 24 2023 1:15PM
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Vish-shoe
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SlowbroAll of the pipe pros were at my hill for WC the other day and literally none of them got bothered except for Eileen Gu. Birk Irving and Hunter Hess were in the lodge and no one talked to them other than me and then Gu was there with a bodyguard lmao


That’s how it was when sleepy grill came to hyland, barley anyone knew who he was and it was really trying to copy his tricks.
Jan 24 2023 1:21PM
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dwt802
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CantThinkOfaNameIf you unironically call people a jerry you’re the biggest loser on the hill


Guess I’m a massive jerry for referring to someone with their boots on the wrong feet to the homies as a jerry.

no what, I am a giant jerry so you’re not wrong I guess

if you say gaper unironically I think that’s worse (unless describing a literal massive gape)
Jan 24 2023 5:38PM
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dwt802
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tutipupsi just want harlaut to make one ski movie with some wu tang


I mean he already did in a way milk wutang (especially red and method) back in the day to the bone. Used so many wutang affiliated songs.
Jan 24 2023 5:41PM
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CantThinkOfaName
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well thats pretty much the definition of a jerry haha
dwt802Guess I’m a massive jerry for referring to someone with their boots on the wrong feet to the homies as a jerry.

no what, I am a giant jerry so you’re not wrong I guess

if you say gaper unironically I think that’s worse (unless describing a literal massive gape)
Jan 24 2023 6:14PM
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ASSholebomber22
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dwt802Guess I’m a massive jerry for referring to someone with their boots on the wrong feet to the homies as a jerry.

no what, I am a giant jerry so you’re not wrong I guess

if you say gaper unironically I think that’s worse (unless describing a literal massive gape)


Shut the fuck up gaper
Jan 24 2023 6:17PM
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dwt802
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CantThinkOfaNamewell thats pretty much the definition of a jerry haha

Yeah like use the words for their literal definitions was kind of my argument. Calling just any newbies these names is petty.
ASSholebomber22Shut the fuck up gaper

Okay sounds good :)
Jan 24 2023 6:33PM
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SteezyYeeter
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SlowbroAll of the pipe pros were at my hill for WC the other day and literally none of them got bothered except for Eileen Gu. Birk Irving and Hunter Hess were in the lodge and no one talked to them other than me and then Gu was there with a bodyguard lmao


eileen gu is so fucking lame. that's epic you got to talk to hunter hess though.
Jan 24 2023 8:42PM
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SchizoSkier
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SteezyYeetereileen gu is so fucking lame. that's epic you got to talk to hunter hess though.


I got rejected by her last December lol when I asked her to my homecoming that happened 3 months prior
Jan 24 2023 8:49PM
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3mania
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SteezyYeetereileen gu is so fucking lame. that's epic you got to talk to hunter hess though.


Apparently not at skiing !/2 pipe. or making shit loads of cash.
Jan 24 2023 10:55PM
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SteezyYeeter
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SchizoSkierI got rejected by her last December lol when I asked her to my homecoming that happened 3 months prior


rip man u can get her next time tho i know it
Jan 24 2023 10:59PM
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muffMan.
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Slopestyle courses shouldn’t have jumps. There’s already a big air, and the jumps take away from the rail game.

I’m fine with the half pipe style ones but normal jumps shouldn’t be there.
Jan 25 2023 6:27PM
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ASSholebomber22
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muffMan.Slopestyle courses shouldn’t have jumps. There’s already a big air, and the jumps take away from the rail game.

I’m fine with the half pipe style ones but normal jumps shouldn’t be there.


This is an interesting case, and I agree. But maybe they should have spines or a qp at the bottom for more creativity
Jan 25 2023 6:32PM
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Vish-shoe
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ASSholebomber22This is an interesting case, and I agree. But maybe they should have spines or a qp at the bottom for more creativity


Maybe one big kicker at the bottom, but I would like it if they rewarded more creative tricks instead of harder tricks. I wanna see some cork 3s.
Jan 25 2023 6:41PM
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dwt802
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muffMan.Slopestyle courses shouldn’t have jumps. There’s already a big air, and the jumps take away from the rail game.

I’m fine with the half pipe style ones but normal jumps shouldn’t be there.


But by definition jumps are part of slopestyle. Maybe they just have only 1 traditional jump and make 1-3 other unique jumps that could be QP take offs, curves, whale tails, etc. would be cool to see more rail hits but removing jumps almost entirely would make it a different event. I would be down to see a slopestyle event that is a 10 rail line however.
Jan 25 2023 8:17PM
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r00kie
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ASSholebomber22This is an interesting case, and I agree. But maybe they should have spines or a qp at the bottom for more creativity


qp at the bottom would be sick. Make quarter pipes great again.
Jan 25 2023 8:29PM
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