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Ski Edges and Sharpness

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HypeBeast
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I know versions of this have been covered in other posts, but I heard something in the ski shop today when I was picking my gear up and had to share. Please enlighten me if I am wrong.

A guy dropped off his skis to get tuned and said "I don't want the edges sharpened too much. I'm gonna be skiing deep pow and backcountry stuff.".... Basically insinuating that sharp edges in pow makes a negative difference. Or maybe just saying he doesn't need them sharp. Idk it just sounded odd to me.

OK, correct me if I'm wrong, but what does deep pow or backcountry have to do with having your edges too sharp? Obviously edges don't matter in pow, but is there something I'm missing? What sort of non-park skier doesn't want their edges sharpened? What am I missing?

Should I have done this?



Or am I the Jerry? Please educate or chastise me.
Dec 3 2017 2:35PM
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lil.Boye
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idk if it has any effect, but having a more surfy ski. like a ski without edges overall. you don't really need them in pow
Dec 3 2017 2:52PM
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poofartpee
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Jerry is confident that variable conditions such as ice/hard snow dont exist in the backcountry obviously
Dec 3 2017 2:57PM
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Lokdog
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If he's only skiing pow and backcountry why is he getting his skis sharpened in the first place, it will basically make no difference. If he's using the skis on the resort too than getting em sharpened is worth your while, but really edges do shit all in deep pow.
Dec 3 2017 7:17PM
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Skier406
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I like my edges sharp in the middle but on the tip and tail of my ski I usually take the edge off with a file because when they are sharp I usually catch an edge in any type of snow.
Dec 3 2017 9:06PM
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Casey
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I have both my BC setups detuned beyond the contact points. If anything I've had the opposite experience with pow skis, the edge hold is so shitty in icy conditions I want all the bite I can get
Dec 3 2017 10:35PM
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Greeney
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Skier406I like my edges sharp in the middle but on the tip and tail of my ski I usually take the edge off with a file because when they are sharp I usually catch an edge in any type of snow.


I do the opposite
Jan 1 2018 3:07PM
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DominatorJacques
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Sharpen them. Can't hurt in powder. Ice is going to be there at times anyway.

Not seen here, but for crossing skis in the air I round the edges where they cross them. Really important for sandwich skis!

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/849783/Ski-Tuning-How-To-By-Hand-Park-Special
Jan 1 2018 7:17PM
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oxiclean
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Skier406I like my edges sharp in the middle but on the tip and tail of my ski I usually take the edge off with a file because when they are sharp I usually catch an edge in any type of snow.


Maybe learn to ski.
Jan 2 2018 9:17PM
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profa_212
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For pow boards you should probably be de-tuning the rockered sections. It can cause the skis to feel hooky and catch on you. Underfoot and anything up to the rocker can and probably should be nice and sharp. No reason to dull or de-tune those.
Jan 2 2018 9:31PM
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freeballer
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If you have rockered tips and tails and the snow isn't super light and starts to get heavy or funky, like a sun or wind crust, you can feel some them being hooky. I agree with those who detune tips and tails at the contact points, but keep them sharp underfoot for the runouts and chop at the end of the run.
Jan 3 2018 11:00AM
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YunGBlood
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Just take the edges off
Jan 3 2018 12:49PM
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search4freshies
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Skier406I like my edges sharp in the middle but on the tip and tail of my ski I usually take the edge off with a file because when they are sharp I usually catch an edge in any type of snow.


this is the traditional way to detune a ski. Obviously unpopular w/ the rail-sliding, newschoolers crowd.
Jan 3 2018 2:34PM
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PacificRimJob
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Yeah, give him like a 0.5base/5sidewall bevel just for lulz.
Jan 3 2018 8:28PM
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DominatorJacques
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DingoSeanYeah, give him like a 0.5base/5sidewall bevel just for lulz.

Ha ha! A long 1 and 3 works awesome for park! Me, I seem to like a 1 and 4.
I say give him a 0 and five, then check the jive!
Jan 3 2018 8:46PM
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skistupid
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I don't know the answer to your question; because I'm not a ‘Powder Skier’. I only ski steep cool—oirs.
Jan 3 2018 9:05PM
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brett_fisher
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I like sharp tip and tail dull underfoot. some homies and a lot of pros sharpen everything except their underfoot here and there.
definitely nice for scissoring on rails getting the extra grip/push.
Jan 3 2018 10:12PM
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