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Liner and shell cooking how-to's

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Non_State_Actor
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I've read through/watched a few guides for home cooked liners and shells. I've a good convection oven with good heat distribution and acuracy and am eager to get cooking.

What are your recommended procedures?

I'm working with a pair of 2013 Salomon Quest Max 120 I picked up on CL. I'm downsizing to a 25 shell and the fit is great aside from one "hot spot" on my left big toe knuckle which is shaped slightly different than my other foot from an injury. Sorry my foot or podiatry terminology is not very good. Anyway the boots have never been molded and I'm looking to blow out the area around my big toe on one side and heat mold the liners.

Thanks for your feedback.

I'm aware of bootfitters and wholly support their livelihood and the services which they provide, but right now I'm $75 into these boots which is about what it would cost to say hello to a good bootfitter around these here parts. I'm willing to give it a go! I also have other perfectly workable boots, comfort fit, but perfectly skiable.

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Nov 30 2017 2:59AM
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TreewellMagnet
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https://www.johnnestler.com/blog/2017/1/how-to-heat-your-salomon-custom-shell-ski-boots-at-home

I've watched someone at a shop heat mold a pair of Salomon shells. The one thing they had access to was the foam pieces and toe cups used to make a bit of extra room for pressure points etc. I suppose with some 2 sided tape and foam cut into small pieces to build out those spots yourself if you need it. You can also make a toe cup out of an old pair of socks.

With a bit of caution and elbow grease I'm sure you'll end up with a decent fit. Of course it might be easier just to go to a bootfitter who has all the right equipment to make it easy.
Nov 30 2017 2:59PM
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Non_State_Actor
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Nice, good write up.

I was thinking to cut up some old socks to make toe caps and also add a few layers where I want extra room and hold everything in place with some athletic tape.

Is the heat from the shell likely enough to mold the liner at the same time or should I do the liners again after the shells?

How hot do the liners have to be to mold properly?
Nov 30 2017 11:15PM
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Zypher
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mystery3Nice, good write up.

I was thinking to cut up some old socks to make toe caps and also add a few layers where I want extra room and hold everything in place with some athletic tape.

Is the heat from the shell likely enough to mold the liner at the same time or should I do the liners again after the shells?

How hot do the liners have to be to mold properly?


Don’t do the shells yet, bake up the liners and mold them first. Ride for a few days after that. If the pressure is gone that’s good, if not then move to the shells but only as a last resort. Personally I don’t like warping my shells if I can avoid it just in case anything happens. You can double layer socks or use tape to punch out some more of the liners easy.
Dec 1 2017 2:48AM
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TreewellMagnet
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mystery3Nice, good write up.

I was thinking to cut up some old socks to make toe caps and also add a few layers where I want extra room and hold everything in place with some athletic tape.

Is the heat from the shell likely enough to mold the liner at the same time or should I do the liners again after the shells?

How hot do the liners have to be to mold properly?


The heat from the shells should be enough to mold both the liners and the shell. Make sure you have some good gloves for handling the shells. The process I observed is almost identical to that in the article. The only difference is that the bootfitter padded out the areas on the foot that needed more space with foam/toecap, and he used a sort of wrap around ice pack to cool the boot in the final stages rather than a big bucket of ice water.
Dec 1 2017 10:28AM
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tomPietrowski
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I honestly would not mold the shell just for a 1st met pressure. Just take them and have them punched. It will keep the rest of the shell small and just give space where needed. Molding shells is great for general volume increases but not great for exact spot pressures. A punch should only be about $20 and they will prob mold the liner for you too.
Dec 1 2017 12:12PM
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