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In desperate need of ski boot advice

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FruitBoots69
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I rode on k2 spyre110 boots 28.5 all last season after the Local ski shop arguably said they were a perfect fit. But after 4 adjustments with molding and heating, i lost My big toenails every-time they grew back. Any time i landed hard in the backseat my toes were rammed into the front. (Rode about 40 times on them in everything condition).
Im looking for advice on what to do, I ride backcountry, park and all mountain almost every week in the winter. I have very wide feet in the front and a normal arch. Any suggestions on what ski boots to look at?
Nov 21 2017 3:54PM
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profa_212
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You need footbeds. Even the best fit in the world will allow your arch to flatten and project your toes into the front. Get footbeds and re mold the liners.
Nov 21 2017 4:03PM
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supersquid
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footbeds are good, they support your feet and keep them from flattening out. However this usually affects the sides of your feet the most. How many times have you punched the toes out?
Nov 23 2017 12:56AM
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FruitBoots69
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supersquidfootbeds are good, they support your feet and keep them from flattening out. However this usually affects the sides of your feet the most. How many times have you punched the toes out?


i got the sides expanded out 2-3 times for my stupid wide feet. But i decided on buying some atomic hawk 100 boots, one size up, the hold my fit firmly in the rear and if tight enough i dont think my toes will get damaged from a hard landing on the heels
Nov 23 2017 1:33AM
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supersquid
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you can punch boots in the toes as well to almost two sizes bigger. did you get the boots fitted or did u just buy them yourself? you should probably be in a boot with a 102 mm last not a 100. Are your ankles and calves really small?
Nov 23 2017 1:36AM
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FruitBoots69
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supersquidyou can punch boots in the toes as well to almost two sizes bigger. did you get the boots fitted or did u just buy them yourself? you should probably be in a boot with a 102 mm last not a 100. Are your ankles and calves really small?


yeah my calves are skinny till about the middle/top and ankles are skinny. And yeah i have custom foot bed and fitting.
Nov 23 2017 2:19AM
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sharhodes
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So, how's the shell fit?
Nov 24 2017 11:13AM
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reeski
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Stupid question probably but are you wearing your boots to loose? They need to be tight. Also footbeds
Nov 25 2017 9:09AM
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ThaLorax
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It sounds to me like footbeds aren't going to solve your issue. Your boots are either a size too big, or you don't have them buckled properly. Shell fit yourself (take out the liner, slide your toes til they touch the front and make sure you have two fingers or less of space in the back of the boot), then make sure the top buckles and strap are buckled tight. The lower buckles don't matter, it's the top ones and the strap that holes your ankle in place and keeps your foot from sliding forward. Also, don't ski/land backseat.
Nov 27 2017 12:28AM
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ThaLorax
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I see your home mountain is Mt Rose. Go to Start Haus in Truckee and get your issues sorted there.
Nov 27 2017 12:30AM
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Tygan
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A Sidas or DFP custom footbed will help alot. Having a nice heelcup and a spot for the ball of your foot will prevent you from sliding around, if your heel is seater properly when your boots are buckled. The liners that come stock in that boot say "intuition" but are really not the same heat-moldable foam as a traditional full custom intuition. If you want to pimp your stompers, you should order a Intuition Pro-Wrap and see your local bootfitter
Nov 28 2017 1:13AM
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FruitBoots69
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TyganA Sidas or DFP custom footbed will help alot. Having a nice heelcup and a spot for the ball of your foot will prevent you from sliding around, if your heel is seater properly when your boots are buckled. The liners that come stock in that boot say "intuition" but are really not the same heat-moldable foam as a traditional full custom intuition. If you want to pimp your stompers, you should order a Intuition Pro-Wrap and see your local bootfitter


I like the looks of the Sidas, but where can i find a retailer or order online from?
Nov 28 2017 12:28PM
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FruitBoots69
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TyganA Sidas or DFP custom footbed will help alot. Having a nice heelcup and a spot for the ball of your foot will prevent you from sliding around, if your heel is seater properly when your boots are buckled. The liners that come stock in that boot say "intuition" but are really not the same heat-moldable foam as a traditional full custom intuition. If you want to pimp your stompers, you should order a Intuition Pro-Wrap and see your local bootfitter


I find a bootfitter that does appointments to fit with sida, thanks a bunch, im hoping this will fix the issue
Nov 28 2017 12:34PM
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Tygan
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FruitBoots69I like the looks of the Sidas, but where can i find a retailer or order online from?


well I would call your local shop or bootfitter to see if they carry sidas. you will need to go to a shop because they have to be heat molded/shaped. if you cant get access to that i would order a cheap non-custom like a DFP Blueprint
Nov 28 2017 1:03PM
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ThaLorax
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FruitBoots69I find a bootfitter that does appointments to fit with sida, thanks a bunch, im hoping this will fix the issue


I'm a boot fitter. Although Sidas are nice (I use them even though I sell DFP at my shop), please re-read my above advice before spending money on a custom footbed. A footbed will indeed help heel hold, but it will not stop your toes from slamming the end if you are in the wrong boot in the first place.
Nov 28 2017 5:07PM
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FruitBoots69
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ThaLoraxI'm a boot fitter. Although Sidas are nice (I use them even though I sell DFP at my shop), please re-read my above advice before spending money on a custom footbed. A footbed will indeed help heel hold, but it will not stop your toes from slamming the end if you are in the wrong boot in the first place.


What boots in your expierence have the best tight hold around the heal? I leaning toward Atomic Hawk 110's right now to trade in with my current boots
Nov 30 2017 3:08PM
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ThaLorax
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FruitBoots69What boots in your expierence have the best tight hold around the heal? I leaning toward Atomic Hawk 110's right now to trade in with my current boots


Which Hawx? I'd recommend the Hawx Ultra for sure. It's the tightest fit in the series, has the best heel hold, and is the most malleable when it comes to the molding process. So if the heel is still to loose (which it shouldn't be), you can throw it on a fischer machine and jack up the pressure on it and suck it in a bit. Dalbello Lupo or Krypton, Salomon X Max, Lang RX L.V., Tecnica Mach 1 L.V., Head Raptor/World Cup are also good options off the top of my head.

What's your ability level, weight, etc? For someone big enough to be in a 28.5 boot, 110 seems like it's pretty soft, unless you're going to ski park only. I'm 115 lbs and I ski a 120 flex (but I ski almost zero park).
Nov 30 2017 10:40PM
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FruitBoots69
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ThaLoraxWhich Hawx? I'd recommend the Hawx Ultra for sure. It's the tightest fit in the series, has the best heel hold, and is the most malleable when it comes to the molding process. So if the heel is still to loose (which it shouldn't be), you can throw it on a fischer machine and jack up the pressure on it and suck it in a bit. Dalbello Lupo or Krypton, Salomon X Max, Lang RX L.V., Tecnica Mach 1 L.V., Head Raptor/World Cup are also good options off the top of my head.

What's your ability level, weight, etc? For someone big enough to be in a 28.5 boot, 110 seems like it's pretty soft, unless you're going to ski park only. I'm 115 lbs and I ski a 120 flex (but I ski almost zero park).


i like to keep it little soft since i ski pretty much everything. im 6'1 180lbs. I have the Lange rx right now but those are the toenail wreckers im trying to get rid off
Dec 2 2017 1:59PM
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ThaLorax
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Lange's traditionally run a bit long in the toe length, so that makes sense. I often size people down in Lange's because of that.
Dec 3 2017 12:41AM
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