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Who still buys ski movies?

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erica
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Personally, I've gotten to the point where I go to the premieres and see the ones I want to see and then if I really liked one I'll buy one or two a year, but otherwise, I just rewatch all the ones I've bought in the past / the ones released online fo free.

Are ski movies dying out? Is the era of internet and free content driving them out of the picture?
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Oct 23 2017 2:18PM
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Bassin
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I'll usually pick up a couple during the year that I really like to try and support the companies but the internet has changed ski/skate videos completely. Instead of waiting all year for that one or two tapes/DVDs to come out we can log onto whatever social media platform we want and find a huge stream of content to choose from. Kind of a bummer because it was always fun linking up with friends to watch a new tape when it came in(we still do this anyways) as it brought us together more than just mindlessly scrolling through stuff on the gram. Interesting to see how these companies who focused on movies have adapted(or not, RIP) to this over time.

**This post was edited on Oct 23rd 2017 at 2:31:14pm
Oct 23 2017 2:30PM
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Brule.
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Yeah I'm completely the same way when it comes to ski movies, OP. I'm still open to buying the movies that I haven't seen at a premiere just to see how it is if people on here are absolutely raving about it.
Oct 23 2017 2:39PM
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Session
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I still buy just about everything that comes out.
Oct 23 2017 3:32PM
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chris.goodhue
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The last few years I've stopped buying movies and instead just go to the premieres. I feel it's partly due to the fact that in Bozeman we have a tun of sweet premieres each year so it's actually an option, compared to back in New England where it wasn't a realistic to send it to a premiere.

I guess i might buy a movie depending on how lit i was at said premiere....if I remember the movie or not
Oct 23 2017 3:40PM
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Rodigan
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we don't get many premiers here in the UK so i still tend to buy most of the stuff that comes out, it also kinda gives me the 'its not far off now' stoke
Oct 23 2017 3:50PM
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Session
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chris.goodhueThe last few years I've stopped buying movies and instead just go to the premieres. I feel it's partly due to the fact that in Bozeman we have a tun of sweet premieres each year so it's actually an option, compared to back in New England where it wasn't a realistic to send it to a premiere.

I guess i might buy a movie depending on how lit i was at said premiere....if I remember the movie or not


Since everything after the ON3P hosting of After Dark just kinda pales in comparison.....I just watch them in the comfort of my own home.
Oct 23 2017 4:50PM
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grantwhitty
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I always try to buy a few.

However, pretty much all digital on iTunes or Vimeo nowadays.
Oct 23 2017 5:45PM
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fredyferl
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It's definitely way less tempting to buy ski movies than a couple years ago. This year I haven't bought anything yet, mainly because I'm waiting after IF3 to see if there was anything that I'll want to rewatch. I haven't rewatched a Level 1 movie since Partly Cloudy or Less, Good Company isn't really my cup of tea, and I guess that's it for park/street movies that cost something? On the other hand, there's definitely some really good free content available out there. I'm definitely hyped to see the new HG film and Roasted.

I'd say premieres are definitely still relevant and a way to make a bit of money, but movies should be seen more as a marketing tool rather than a product. The production company thing is getting outdated, and watching a movie with skiers that have no relation to each other is getting old
Oct 23 2017 5:55PM
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skistupid
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I haven't bought a ski movie in 11-years... Heck, I guess I've kind of got bored of the repetitiveness. Hmm, maybe?
Oct 23 2017 6:44PM
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.lencon
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I love having a collection of ski movies.

always nice to have when you wanna get stoked. And it seems that I don't always remember everything or see everything at the premieres.

and if I really like a movie, I want to have it.
I have about 6ish movies on DVD and maybe like 6ish digital copies.

the goal is to have a collection of ski movies so great that I will be able to tell any woman about my collection and she will want to come home with me.
Oct 23 2017 8:59PM
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Eat_Dat_Shrimp
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This is a reason that its important for a brand to make their own team movies. Even if people arnt buying movies they are using the movie to promote their shit.
Oct 23 2017 10:28PM
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JmckR
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HABIT looks absolutely amazing but can't justify dropping £10 (or however many $$$) on it when there are endless free skiing videos on youtube/vimeo and even insta.
Oct 24 2017 4:46AM
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JmckR
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I know it's all about 'supporting the industry' or whatever, but at the end of the day, these guys get to ski all winter long as a job (if that's what you can call it). They're living the sickest life I can imagine.

It's me, who busts my ass off working in a shitty job in the UK all year and can only afford 1- 2 weeks skiing, that needs supporting.
Oct 24 2017 4:49AM
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Julius_Steezer
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I like to buy the L1 movie and maybe GC movie if its hyped up each year. Whilst £10 for a movie seems a lot, if its a decent film then I'll watch it enough that it'll be well worth the investment
Oct 24 2017 7:42AM
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Titus69
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Really only buying them on iTunes on my phone. Got a nice collection of older movies on dvd, but nothing new.
Oct 24 2017 9:40AM
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frickindarn
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I always buy at least one per season. So far I've bought guest list. I'm thinking about buying habit because it was so gnarly and I could only take so much in at the premiere. I also am going to buy This Is Home AS SOON as they drop a hard copy.
Oct 24 2017 12:00PM
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lil.Boye
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i only buy them if i'm really stoked about them. not very often
Oct 24 2017 4:28PM
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artrud
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The times, they are a changin'

Follow the money. Majority of sponsors historically don't have a lot of budget (minus a few companies). Traditionally, ski movies were a great way to dump a ton of budget to get high visibility for your brand during a key time of year because that's where skiers' eyes were. That's still the case but not as frequent...note the amount of power house studios putting out consistent annual big budget movies.

Today, budgets are spread out in even more places throughout the entire year/winter. This is to ensure consumers have constant brand awareness. Sure the amount of people skiing has grown, but so have other marketing needs - think paid digital advertising media, webisodes, athlete budgets for edits, website maintenance, email marketing, social media, designers, developers, etc.

Are ski movies dying out? Is the era of internet and free content driving them out of the picture?
I hope not but kinda. With budgets getting smaller for traditional ski movies, we'll see less and less of them and more straight to internet release. Production companies that remain will try to appeal to a larger general audience so brands are seen by as many people as possible. Also, if they're smart they'll work hard to promote their premiere tours so people can actually interact with the movie sponsors and athletes.

Can winter be here? I spent way too much time thinking about that.
Oct 24 2017 5:02PM
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Rodigan
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FYI castles made of snow is worth a watch.......
Oct 25 2017 4:56AM
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BrawnTrends
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I buy the new Level1 and Good Company films every year. This year I'll buy the Faction movie (whenever they decide to finally release it... WHY DECEMBER??)
I used to buy the Nimbus films too.. I wish they were still making them. sigh
Oct 25 2017 6:20AM
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T.Karlsen
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Rodiganwe don't get many premiers here in the UK so i still tend to buy most of the stuff that comes out, it also kinda gives me the 'its not far off now' stoke


u have IF3 festival...
Oct 25 2017 9:35AM
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Rodigan
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T.Karlsenu have IF3 festival...


IF3 is for the cockneys.
Oct 25 2017 9:50AM
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Obie.
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I buy at least one every year. I have every Stept hard copy release since Network & and that collection would’ve continued. Pretty consistent level 1 purchaser aswell since Refresh
Oct 25 2017 11:31AM
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erica
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artrud23The times, they are a changin'

Follow the money. Majority of sponsors historically don't have a lot of budget (minus a few companies). Traditionally, ski movies were a great way to dump a ton of budget to get high visibility for your brand during a key time of year because that's where skiers' eyes were. That's still the case but not as frequent...note the amount of power house studios putting out consistent annual big budget movies.

Today, budgets are spread out in even more places throughout the entire year/winter. This is to ensure consumers have constant brand awareness. Sure the amount of people skiing has grown, but so have other marketing needs - think paid digital advertising media, webisodes, athlete budgets for edits, website maintenance, email marketing, social media, designers, developers, etc.

Are ski movies dying out? Is the era of internet and free content driving them out of the picture?
I hope not but kinda. With budgets getting smaller for traditional ski movies, we'll see less and less of them and more straight to internet release. Production companies that remain will try to appeal to a larger general audience so brands are seen by as many people as possible. Also, if they're smart they'll work hard to promote their premiere tours so people can actually interact with the movie sponsors and athletes.

Can winter be here? I spent way too much time thinking about that.


I'd be curious to see if film companies are experiencing a lack of funding... anyone have experience with this?

You do make a good point though, fall time is when people are buying shit for the upcoming season and everyone would have this one window where they could show off their stuff on the screen and at premieres. Now there are so many ways (and cheaper ways) to get your gear out there all season long.
Oct 27 2017 3:16PM
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r._ed
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Religiously. Level 1 movies are an instant buy for me and if I see something that looks interesting I buy it straight away. Purchasing movies helps these companies fund the movies that get us all super stoked and power the industry. Without sales, I am sure there would be much less exposure for skiers and therefore less pro skiers. Gotta buy in if you want to see the industry succeed!
Oct 30 2017 1:08AM
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artrud
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ericaI'd be curious to see if film companies are experiencing a lack of funding... anyone have experience with this?

You do make a good point though, fall time is when people are buying shit for the upcoming season and everyone would have this one window where they could show off their stuff on the screen and at premieres. Now there are so many ways (and cheaper ways) to get your gear out there all season long.


Looks like NS did some digging? Great read. Helps paint the picture to how things have evolved bc of the internet and might help provide some perspective about the evolution/relevance of ski movies.

With all the democratization of the industry (bc of the internet), I do wonder if we'll start to see "pro skiers" reunite to gain power in numbers vs going off on their own solo projects.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/The-Death-Pro-Skier
Jan 18 2018 8:00PM
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