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Cliche/Over Used Filler Shots

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koolkale
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Now I'm not bashing or hating on any of these shots because you can only film so may things at a ski mountain. Also I do not really film too much and I barely edit so I hardly know any struggles of creating a good ski edit and what kind of shots to use. Recently I have been watching a lot of ski edits and similar shots keep coming up, they are becoming a bit of a cliche for ski edits. A very common one would be the person sitting on the chairlift. I have seen many variations of this shot, and there are a couple that I have enjoyed. But, when it is just the most common one it gets repetitive and boring. Another shot would be the quintessential "profile of a person breathing in the dark with the breath showing because it is cold and it looks bad ass" shot. Honestly, even though it is used a lot, and even I have used it, it still looks cool. It has fallen out of style mostly because now people have replaced it with a highly homosexual shot of them sucking on a pocket size fog machine and blowing out the vapor. These shots are overused because they are cinematic and look cool. My complaint might also be from the fact that I am a cinephile. My favorite director would be Tarkovsky, and he would use nature and film to depict emotions and complex themes without using any dialogue. It may be absurd that I am comparing an amateur ski edit with masterfully executed cinema, but in the end I am just looking for a it more creativity to make binge watching edits a little less repetitive. So what other shots are over used?
Oct 9 2017 4:31PM
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Mike-O
Posts: 14593 - Karma: 1,089
koolkaleNow I'm not bashing or hating on any of these shots because you can only film so may things at a ski mountain. Also I do not really film too much and I barely edit so I hardly know any struggles of creating a good ski edit and what kind of shots to use. Recently I have been watching a lot of ski edits and similar shots keep coming up, they are becoming a bit of a cliche for ski edits. A very common one would be the person sitting on the chairlift. I have seen many variations of this shot, and there are a couple that I have enjoyed. But, when it is just the most common one it gets repetitive and boring. Another shot would be the quintessential "profile of a person breathing in the dark with the breath showing because it is cold and it looks bad ass" shot. Honestly, even though it is used a lot, and even I have used it, it still looks cool. It has fallen out of style mostly because now people have replaced it with a highly homosexual shot of them sucking on a pocket size fog machine and blowing out the vapor. These shots are overused because they are cinematic and look cool. My complaint might also be from the fact that I am a cinephile. My favorite director would be Tarkovsky, and he would use nature and film to depict emotions and complex themes without using any dialogue. It may be absurd that I am comparing an amateur ski edit with masterfully executed cinema, but in the end I am just looking for a it more creativity to make binge watching edits a little less repetitive. So what other shots are over used?


Oct 9 2017 4:45PM
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theabortionator
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Oct 9 2017 4:49PM
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Julius_Steezer
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You know an edit is gonna be legit when it starts with a slowmo of the top of the lift spinning round
Oct 9 2017 5:28PM
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Rparr
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I'm a big fan of 100% bangers, no filler
Oct 9 2017 5:50PM
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Casey
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Clicking into skis, shoveling snow onto a booter in slomo, looking off into the distance (what is he thinking about right before all this crazy skiing anyway?) Getting on the chair, riding on the chair, getting off the chair, trees, slashing a turn and skiing through the spray, smoking related anything, skier doing something else requiring talent, like skateboarding or sidoku, fisheye goggles from 2 inches away, artsy goggle shot with abstract lens reflection, timelapse driving to the mountains, timelapse snowing, timelapse windshield wipers, road signs with snow on them, snowplow cutting the bank in slomo, ski patrol talking on radios about official sounding ski patrol stuff, add in some bombs and avy stuff so we know it's dangerous, pull starting a sled in slow motion, driving sled off the truck, revving up the sled, putting skis on the sled, sled is stuck, sled is broken down, cutting a skin track, nature shot of a deer and birds at the river, remote cabin interview, waiting at the cabin for it to snow, I could probably do this all day
Oct 9 2017 7:13PM
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a_burger
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snow falling with the weather report playing in the background
Oct 9 2017 7:21PM
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theabortionator
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riding groomers, hitting powder, hitting rails, hitting jumps, setting up urban features, hitting urban features

I feel like I see that shit in almost every fucking ski movie. Shit's fucking played
Oct 9 2017 7:42PM
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milk_man
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OP my next edit is just gonna be one big filler shot, just for you
Oct 9 2017 8:30PM
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theabortionator
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milk_manOP my next edit is just gonna be one big filler shot, just for you



Find a nice indie song for it and I'll watch it
Oct 9 2017 8:33PM
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270on420out
Posts: 7516 - Karma: 51,166
Quality b-roll example:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/662449/---------------
Oct 9 2017 8:45PM
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.lencon
Posts: 6753 - Karma: 17,186
DIRTYBUBBLEQuality b-roll example:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/662449/---------------

Banger
Oct 9 2017 10:06PM
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C_dub
Posts: 373 - Karma: 2,325
skiing is overplayed. It is in every edit
Oct 9 2017 10:11PM
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HypeBeast
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DIRTYBUBBLEQuality b-roll example:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/662449/---------------


Wtf is this shit
Oct 10 2017 12:41PM
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milk_man
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DIRTYBUBBLEQuality b-roll example:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/662449/---------------


How does this not have more views lol this is golden
Oct 10 2017 1:50PM
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cozzey
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CaseyClicking into skis, shoveling snow onto a booter in slomo, looking off into the distance (what is he thinking about right before all this crazy skiing anyway?) Getting on the chair, riding on the chair, getting off the chair, trees, slashing a turn and skiing through the spray, smoking related anything, skier doing something else requiring talent, like skateboarding or sidoku, fisheye goggles from 2 inches away, artsy goggle shot with abstract lens reflection, timelapse driving to the mountains, timelapse snowing, timelapse windshield wipers, road signs with snow on them, snowplow cutting the bank in slomo, ski patrol talking on radios about official sounding ski patrol stuff, add in some bombs and avy stuff so we know it's dangerous, pull starting a sled in slow motion, driving sled off the truck, revving up the sled, putting skis on the sled, sled is stuck, sled is broken down, cutting a skin track, nature shot of a deer and birds at the river, remote cabin interview, waiting at the cabin for it to snow, I could probably do this all day


Sure there is at least one of these in each edit, but that doesn't decrease the quality of it. I think that ski filming is starting to become more cinematic and creative, not just all bangers, and I personally like it. I enjoy the nature shots and everything that surrounds skiing, not just the action itself.
Oct 10 2017 2:44PM
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