Daymakers vs. Frame Bindings

fucking beware of ski touring adapters. It's such a pain in the ass. Couple of years ago I toured with BCA Alpine Trekkers and it was the worst touring experince in my life. Daymakers are the reincarnation of BCA's... They are so overpriced it's not even funny. With adapters you won't be able to hold the edge, kick-turn properly and everything else.

Definitely go with any of frame bindings, they are so much better

I've been on Dukes for the last 3 or 4 seasons, They are solid but like you said, you're pretty far off the ski. It's not that big of a deal but not optimal, also, for long tours they are extremely tiring due to the fact that you have to lift your heel piece every time you step. The motion is also a little stressful on my knees as the pivot point is about 2 - 3 inches in front of your foot. But they are pretty durable, I only broke my first binding this season after touring a lot. After I broke the binding I decided to try the Daymakers out and I was impressed. The motion feels better, it's a two hinge system instead of one so you're pivoting over your foot, it's also more efficient since you don't have to lift your heel piece. I was able to skin at the same level as with the dukes, not a noticeable performance difference. It was also amazing to ski my pow skis with a low profile binding after years of the high rise duke. I only did 3 or 4 tours with them at the end of last season but I was stoked on them, they are definitely a whole different beast than the trekkers due to the dual hinge system. Both frame bindings and Daymakers are pretty good options, it's really just about how much you mind a heavy high rise binding vs a normal alpine binding.

I'm not sure what the big deal is with having a little rise between the ski and your boot?

BrawnTrendsI'm not sure what the big deal is with having a little rise between the ski and your boot?

Makes a huge difference....especially on longer tours. Makes side hilling much more difficult for edging, and it puts a lot more torque on the system. Higher possibility of blowing stuff.

Profahoben_212Makes a huge difference....especially on longer tours. Makes side hilling much more difficult for edging, and it puts a lot more torque on the system. Higher possibility of blowing stuff.

I was under the impression that frame bindings weren't really meant to do longer tours, and that people wanting to really get into "real" touring should get tech binding and proper touring boots.

BrawnTrendsI was under the impression that frame bindings weren't really meant to do longer tours, and that people wanting to really get into "real" touring should get tech binding and proper touring boots.

Umm yes. Hence the issue of being off your ski. Adaptors usually have a higher stack height than frame too.

Profahoben_212Umm yes. Hence the issue of being off your ski. Adaptors usually have a higher stack height than frame too.

The thing is that with adaptors you dont need to deal with that high rise after the climb, you can just take them off a enjoy normal bindings