Who is the most influential skier of the last 10 years? I think it's one of these three:
Tom Wallisch
Sammy Carlsson
Henrik Harlaut
What do you think?
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HolteGo watch a video from 2006. Then watch one from 2008. Pretty different, right? Now go check the date on Wally's Superunknown.
Tom ushered in this last era and owned it for almost a decade.
dan4060What videos are you talking about? TGR and MSP videos? I would not say they were wildly different in that period. The differences that I see are more tricks off cliffs, something that was already going on, and the start of the slarvy approach to spines due to the increase in rockered skis. Neither of those has anything to do with Wallisch. If your contention is that park and urban changed wildly during that time I won't disagree, you would know better than me. Now, if you want to see a period where ski videos REALLY changed in a two year period, watch videos from 1996 and 1998. Hugely different. In the fall of 1996 MSP's Fetish came out. Shane McConkey had to smuggle his fat skis into the heli because Steve Winter did not want to shoot him on them, but when Winter saw the footage minds were blown. Shane was making 5 turns where others were making 30. He was straightlining entire AK peaks. Then in the fall of 1997 TGR's harvest came out. TGR had been pressured by Dynastar to put a racer named Jeremy Nobis in their video. Nobis skied Pyramid peak in 5 turns, a line the had taken Doug Coombs something like 25 turns a year before. Nobis made one turn that made the cover of Powder, they called it "the turn of the century." Now fast forward to fall 1998 and you have Uprising from TGR and Sick Sense from MSP. All the big guys were now on fat skis making 5 turns where they would have made 30 on the super g skis they skied on in 1996. If you watch the Continuum (TGR's fall 1996 release) and then watch Uprising it looks like a different sport. For another perspective, watch the Poor Boyz film The Degenerates, from 1998, then watch 13 from 1999. In 13 everyone is on twin tips and it looks completely different. I think that is the era where things changed by far the most.
Is Wallisch the most influential park skier of the last 10 years? Just curious. That seems to be the consensus here.
People here have to realize that Wallisch is an influence on one aspect of skiing. Most 40 year old Squaw locals who pound nails 60 hours a week so that they can have 4 months off to ski everyday don't care about Wallisch, in fact many of them won't even know who he is. They will probably know Hoji and Sage though.
dan4060What videos are you talking about? TGR and MSP videos? I would not say they were wildly different in that period. The differences that I see are more tricks off cliffs, something that was already going on, and the start of the slarvy approach to spines due to the increase in rockered skis. Neither of those has anything to do with Wallisch. If your contention is that park and urban changed wildly during that time I won't disagree, you would know better than me. Now, if you want to see a period where ski videos REALLY changed in a two year period, watch videos from 1996 and 1998. Hugely different. In the fall of 1996 MSP's Fetish came out. Shane McConkey had to smuggle his fat skis into the heli because Steve Winter did not want to shoot him on them, but when Winter saw the footage minds were blown. Shane was making 5 turns where others were making 30. He was straightlining entire AK peaks. Then in the fall of 1997 TGR's harvest came out. TGR had been pressured by Dynastar to put a racer named Jeremy Nobis in their video. Nobis skied Pyramid peak in 5 turns, a line the had taken Doug Coombs something like 25 turns a year before. Nobis made one turn that made the cover of Powder, they called it "the turn of the century." Now fast forward to fall 1998 and you have Uprising from TGR and Sick Sense from MSP. All the big guys were now on fat skis making 5 turns where they would have made 30 on the super g skis they skied on in 1996. If you watch the Continuum (TGR's fall 1996 release) and then watch Uprising it looks like a different sport. For another perspective, watch the Poor Boyz film The Degenerates, from 1998, then watch 13 from 1999. In 13 everyone is on twin tips and it looks completely different. I think that is the era where things changed by far the most.
Is Wallisch the most influential park skier of the last 10 years? Just curious. That seems to be the consensus here.
People here have to realize that Wallisch is an influence on one aspect of skiing. Most 40 year old Squaw locals who pound nails 60 hours a week so that they can have 4 months off to ski everyday don't care about Wallisch, in fact many of them won't even know who he is. They will probably know Hoji and Sage though.
dan4060What videos are you talking about? TGR and MSP videos? I would not say they were wildly different in that period. The differences that I see are more tricks off cliffs, something that was already going on, and the start of the slarvy approach to spines due to the increase in rockered skis. Neither of those has anything to do with Wallisch. If your contention is that park and urban changed wildly during that time I won't disagree, you would know better than me. Now, if you want to see a period where ski videos REALLY changed in a two year period, watch videos from 1996 and 1998. Hugely different. In the fall of 1996 MSP's Fetish came out. Shane McConkey had to smuggle his fat skis into the heli because Steve Winter did not want to shoot him on them, but when Winter saw the footage minds were blown. Shane was making 5 turns where others were making 30. He was straightlining entire AK peaks. Then in the fall of 1997 TGR's harvest came out. TGR had been pressured by Dynastar to put a racer named Jeremy Nobis in their video. Nobis skied Pyramid peak in 5 turns, a line the had taken Doug Coombs something like 25 turns a year before. Nobis made one turn that made the cover of Powder, they called it "the turn of the century." Now fast forward to fall 1998 and you have Uprising from TGR and Sick Sense from MSP. All the big guys were now on fat skis making 5 turns where they would have made 30 on the super g skis they skied on in 1996. If you watch the Continuum (TGR's fall 1996 release) and then watch Uprising it looks like a different sport. For another perspective, watch the Poor Boyz film The Degenerates, from 1998, then watch 13 from 1999. In 13 everyone is on twin tips and it looks completely different. I think that is the era where things changed by far the most.
Is Wallisch the most influential park skier of the last 10 years? Just curious. That seems to be the consensus here.
People here have to realize that Wallisch is an influence on one aspect of skiing. Most 40 year old Squaw locals who pound nails 60 hours a week so that they can have 4 months off to ski everyday don't care about Wallisch, in fact many of them won't even know who he is. They will probably know Hoji and Sage though.
karlmarxfor park its wallisch and phil. wallisch made everyone realize that you can pretzel anything, and that landing with your hands in your pockets pretty much always looks cool. phil got the nollie, butter, pressing everything ball rolling that eventually inspired the bunch and henrik. candide of course has been on top for like 15 years, but he made in bounds all terrain ripping cool again so thats pretty influential too. jon olsson also got the dub cork game going.
overall i gotta give it to phil though. everyone, from novice park skiers to the gnarliest pros, are buttering and pressing around due in large part to how good he made it look
ozzywrongCandide x 1000 no one else touches candies other than CR, Tanner and Jp auclair
codizzleBut big-mountain doesn't seemed to have changed much since 2005.
Chubz.woah woah woah woah, what???
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/846547/Sammy-Carlson--To-Be
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/874795/GoPro--Spine-Ride-with-Tanner-Hall
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/874796/GoPro--Tanner-Hall-Ski-Diaries-2
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/744622/Tanner-Hall-Ski-Diaries
the shit tanner skied in 2014 alone straight up blew big mountain skiing into a new era in my opinion.
In all seriousness id say tanner is probably the most influential skiers in the last 10 years. Hes done everything with two injuries that should have been career ending. Came back and slayed the demon that almost took everything away 10 years later. Dude is fuckin wicked.
Dude.fromsltEither Wallish or jesper
SklarI get that you're trying to look beyond the park, and that's cool, but I don't see those guys as particularly influential, beyond their insane ability. Known and influential are different concepts. Perhaps Hoji for being a pioneer for sending on tech bindings, that's a totally valid argument IMO.
I think this thread poses a fun thought, in that a lot of the major influences to the sport are now beyond the 10 year window. As for the big mountain realm, I think it's harder to see individuals for their progression or influence I think. Maybe Cody for going viral with "The Crack?" or Candide with OOTD?
a_burgernow how many of those BC guys also were influential in park after 2007? shit dont work one way
dan4060If this thread were posted on TGR Wallisch might not get any votes. He has only influenced skiing one aspect, and to be frank that's the aspect that lets people have fun when snow conditions suck. I will certainly give him credit for that, but people on this website greatly overrate his influence on skiing, they seem to thing park skiing is the only game in town.
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GrandThingsYou make some great points, but for the debate's sake, I think you're underestimating the popularity of park skiing compared to big mountain skiing. I'd argue, to the general public, awareness of park skiing is much more than big-mountain. All these athletes are generally no-name regardless of their ability. Nobody not into skiing has ever heard of Hoji, or Sage, or even Candide for that matter. Although he's no Tony Hawk or Shaun White, a lot people have heard of Tom Wallisch. A lot of this is due to X games/comp exposure, but Good Company aired on ABC a few times and even, got a primetime slot on ESPN at least twice (Im pretty sure.) While yes, these things might not be hugely popular within the "die-hard" skiing community they are the biggest faction of skiing in the "Action Sports Market." I'd argue that Tom's ability to crack this echelon makes him the most influential skier of the past 10 years - and possibly ever.
(Again, all this coming from an East coast park kid, and definitely not knocking anybody's skiing ability.)
ozzywrongCandide Thovex is much more famous in the main stream than TWall you are wrong.. one of those days 2 has over 20 million views...