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Young_pattyI heard Revision might ship out their 16/17 skis and begin preorders for 19/20 skis.
VailValleySkierWait what, so they're skipping 17/18 and just going strait to 19/20? o.O
VailValleySkierWait what, so they're skipping 17/18 and just going strait to 19/20? o.O
patagonialukeThat binding has actually been around for a little while. Interesting idea, but having used the Fritschi bindings that also use a single bar instead of two (like the guardian, duke, aaadrenalin, etc.) I never liked how much play there was side to side, along with the increased stand height. The toe piece also seems way too minimal, although I guess it does have a slightly better pivot point.
https://www.tyrolia.com/en/technology/aaambition/carbon/
If you wanna save 200g, I'd probably just get Kingpins.
Interesting to see Riley on it though, figured for sled-accessed touring he'd just stick to the aaadrenalin/guardian/duke like the rest of the Seeking Nirvana crew.
VailValleySkierI don't see the point of frame AT bindings, even if they are made lighter. Besides being able to use the same boots you use in the park in the backcountry, what's the point?
onenerdykidCome SIA '18, the only people who will use frame bindings will be those people who want to tour in fully traditional alpine boots..
NewScholarCorrect
onenerdykidCome SIA '18, the only people who will use frame bindings will be those people who want to tour in fully traditional alpine boots, which is like 7 people. There will be no other reason to use a frame binding.
onenerdykidCome SIA '18, the only people who will use frame bindings will be those people who want to tour in fully traditional alpine boots, which is like 7 people. There will be no other reason to use a frame binding.
VailValleySkierI don't see the point of frame AT bindings, even if they are made lighter. Besides being able to use the same boots you use in the park in the backcountry, what's the point? With the new fulltilt AT boots coming soon, there really won't be any point anymore from what I can tell. Tech AT bindings (Like Dynafit) will always be superior. I have guardians and they are set at the tightest dins and they still pop off too easy. I've never had my Dynafit come off while charging the backcountry.
kirbstopperThe new pivot 18 free tour is a great option now for people who don't want to ski on pins. Which there is a market for despite what all the ski industry folk like to say. Of course they want to push there new pin tech. Which is why we see everybody and there mother skiing pins in the resort.
VailValleySkierMSRP: $650.00
Yea, so I don't see how that's a better or even more affordable option than the pin technology already out there?
Sharkonah, those people will use DayMakers
.MASSHOLE.You don't think they have a place for the people who snowmobile out to a remote location and then skin to their zone, especially if it is a sketchy one?
I know that population is small, but it's still there and I don't see it leaving.
You are the industry insider so you certainly would know better than me
kirbstopperThe new pivot 18 free tour is a great option now for people who don't want to ski on pins. Which there is a market for despite what all the ski industry folk like to say. Of course they want to push there new pin tech. Which is why we see everybody and there mother skiing pins in the resort.
onenerdykidThat's why I prefaced my comment with "Come ISPO 18" ;)
But what boots are we talking about them using? True alpine boots, without tech inserts and without a walk mode? Then frame bindings make a bit of sense...
But if they have boots with tech inserts and walk mode, then they will no longer want to use a frame binding.
Perhaps you're directing this at me, but either way, I never said people would be skiing on pins...
SessionNo, they will use CAST.
SharkoNo, because CAST is for AT boots. He's talking about people who want to tour with alpine boots.
SharkoNo, because CAST is for AT boots. He's talking about people who want to tour with alpine boots.
Saho3914Easy enough to put a tech toe insert on a traditional alpine boot.
powpatrolBump to this thread,any new rumours?
onenerdykid19/20 is a little too early, but I will say this- people will lose their shit this year. I can't wait haha
onenerdykidCome SIA '18, the only people who will use frame bindings will be those people who want to tour in fully traditional alpine boots, which is like 7 people. There will be no other reason to use a frame binding.
skiP.E.I.Well it will be easy to get cheap used frame bindings, presumably. That's enough reason to tour in traditional alpine boots if you have to save money everywhere you can. If you have 1 set of bindings for everything, frame bindings would be preferable to tech bindings imo.
**This post was edited on Jul 19th 2018 at 10:28:27am
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-eREKTion-Anyone got a link to Armada's outerwear catalogue?
RudyGarmischSpend a day on Kingpins. With boots out like the Cochise or Ranger offering a lightweight 130 flex with tech inserts, we're getting to a point where you can use one set of boots and bindings for equal days of resort and touring.
inb4 Kingpins break - so do frame bindings.
