Andri or Wacko

BWalmerBoth were sick for sure, but something about Andri's last two rotations being straight up backflips really took a lot away from it for me. Don't get me wrong, it's insane that he did it, but Wackos just looked better to me. I guess it's comparing apples to oranges anyways.

BWalmerBoth were sick for sure, but something about Andri's last two rotations being straight up backflips really took a lot away from it for me. .

OxcilicI like the style of the sw quad 1620 but Wacko didn't go as corked on the last one. Andri's was a super legit quad so I'll go with that one.

ski.the.eastWackos 100%

Andris was cork 7 to 3 wackflips, impressive for sure, but not even remotely as cool

SofaKingSickreally? interesting. one of my first thoughts was how textbook cork 3 the last two corks were. especially in the shot from below him

not my favorite style of things but i thought he absolutely nailed it and needless to say he stomped it perfectly

SofaKingSickone of my first thoughts was how textbook cork 3 the last two corks were

hemlockjibber8Those aren't cork threes in anyway. They are wack flips, aka flat 3s, aka off axis back flips.

ski.the.eastidk what video you're watching or what you're smoking but those rotations were pretty damn far off from a cork 3. It was a cork 7 into 3 textbook wackflips

SofaKingSickAre you guys serious? ""Wack flips"" are basically backies with your chest opened up to the sky, falling off to the right side like you'd do in a rodeo. The last two on this are dipped to the left, chest to the floor 3s.....like the exact opposite. You wanna hate so badly you're not even bothering to make sense

LJboibut personally i didn't really like the last 3 flips.

johnkYeah but wackos was sw 1620 where he lifted his one leg a little bit each time, not really a quad imo

SofaKingSickBlowing it on the screen grabs, shit..I blame my phone. Here are the links at least

http://imgur.com/bFENlfQ
http://imgur.com/o2Q5jtt

M.MMan how fried are you.

You realize when you come around out of a straight backflip you're belly down like a cork 3. You took screen grabs from the side in the best spot to prove your case, it's gonna look completely different from a side angle especially when you take them when he is coming out of the backflips. The angle from the back that shows the first 3 is best for judging how flippy it is.

SofaKingSickDisagree. The screen grabs I posted are floppy but are 100% not a straight back flip or wack flip. If any of you think they are then let's not bother arguing trick names haha

Agreed on the wobbles tho, they're scary and hard and wacko's is a really weird and cool way to go about doing a quad. I prefer it to the flippy nature of a andri's but my posts above were just expressing my respect for how corky it was for a forward quad 18

hemlockjibber8as in not corky at all? please explain how at least the last two of Andri's weren't wack flips.

SofaKingSicknaw dude wack flips are those things that are basically backies but falling off to the right side, a lot of times with a japan. the last two on andri's were dipped down to the left 3s. you could argue that his last two rotations were ""basically"" backies i guess...

im not saying they were the most textbook corks ever and i get why people say it's too flippy for their taste but idk im impressed

SofaKingSicknaw dude wack flips are those things that are basically backies but falling off to the right side, a lot of times with a japan. the last two on andri's were dipped down to the left 3s. you could argue that his last two rotations were ""basically"" backies i guess...

im not saying they were the most textbook corks ever and i get why people say it's too flippy for their taste but idk im impressed

jakelewiskiI don't think a whackflip absolutely needs to be to the right. I thought whackflip was a derogatory term for whack looking flat 3's that basically are backflips with a japan.

SofaKingSicki mean, such a colloquial term's definition is up for debate i guess, but ive never seen anyone describe a down to the left rotation as a wackflip. always a backflip ish rotation usually with a japan like you said. which falls over to the right side, not the left. stomach up rather than down

not arguing, just explaining what i said. we all know it doesn't matter, just ski nerd talk here

SofaKingSickone of my first thoughts was how textbook cork 3 the last two corks were

SofaKingSickim not saying they were the most textbook corks ever

ski.the.eastlol

SofaKingSick..? Ive made it pretty clear I'm just impressed how well it was done

It was a quad 18 dude. Saying "lol" just doesn't cut the mustard

SofaKingSicknaw dude wack flips are those things that are basically backies but falling off to the right side, a lot of times with a japan. the last two on andri's were dipped down to the left 3s. you could argue that his last two rotations were ""basically"" backies i guess...

im not saying they were the most textbook corks ever and i get why people say it's too flippy for their taste but idk im impressed

SofaKingSicki mean, such a colloquial term's definition is up for debate i guess, but ive never seen anyone describe a down to the left rotation as a wackflip. always a backflip ish rotation usually with a japan like you said. which falls over to the right side, not the left. stomach up rather than down

not arguing, just explaining what i said. we all know it doesn't matter, just ski nerd talk here

casualDude....you keep going on about "to the left" and "to the right"....those descriptors don't have fuck all to do with whether something is a whack flip, a rodeo, or a cork.

It honestly sounds like you are pulling your rotation and axis knowledge from an overly simplified video game. The direction on that axis left/right has nothing to do with anything.

If anything, their position relative to the ground and/or the landing is relevant but you are digging a deep hole.

A whackflip is a description of a flat 3 that isn't much of a flat 3, but more of a backflip with the lower body slightly kicked off laterally to either side, often with a japan grab because of how the grab accentuates the off axis aspect.

A corked rotation is one in which the feet don't necessarily go over the head for a full invert and are more akin to essentially tilting the head/upper body back up towards the takeoff (not explaining how it's set, more describing how it looks mid cork) in a reclined/horizontal like position and spinning like a barrel roll or a spinning top that has tipped over.

People have forgotten that d-spins exist, and a lot of people think that a corked rotation means that they are doing a flip while spinning and it isn't true.

Imo, wacko does a clear quad cork rotation. You can argue that he isn't as off axis as you aesthetically like, but he is rotating off axis and distinctly goes off axis 4 times.

Andri also does a quad, but the rotation is a lot more like horgmos first triple at x games where the rotation for a couple corks are very much on a singular upright axis.

Both tricks are fucking nuts, but I can't read some guy repeat over and over that something isn't a whackflip because his feet went to the left vs right or vice versa, wtf.