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The time has finally come! (I think)

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reeski
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Since 2004 when the Public Enemy's came out I have been riding twin tips. I was 25 then and loved those ski's. Early on I would raise the question at what age we will switch back to a flat tail? I'm 38 now and I'm kinda up in the air about it. I like the Vokyl Kendo's but still like to ski switch every now and then but I rarely hit the park anymore unless its late season. What's your thoughts? When did you switxh or when do you think you will switch? At 25 I remember thinking I would switch at 30
Mar 9 2017 7:48PM
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Auschie
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Never. But what do I know I'm only 24.

Ideally I'd have a twin park ski 95-100 waist.

A twin or mostly twin powder ski 110-115.

And at that point I'd consider something directional as maybe a carver or something. But shit skiing switch is too much fun to give up.
Mar 9 2017 7:55PM
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Mr.Bishop
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reeskiSince 2004 when the Public Enemy's came out I have been riding twin tips. I was 25 then and loved those ski's. Early on I would raise the question at what age we will switch back to a flat tail? I'm 38 now and I'm kinda up in the air about it. I like the Vokyl Kendo's but still like to ski switch every now and then but I rarely hit the park anymore unless its late season. What's your thoughts? When did you switxh or when do you think you will switch? At 25 I remember thinking I would switch at 30


Turning 38 in a few weeks and fuck that dude - twin tips for life.

Just start mounting them further back if you're riding forwards most of the time.

I personally plan to be jumping switch on the catwalks until I die.
Mar 9 2017 8:19PM
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reeski
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Mr.BishopTurning 38 in a few weeks and fuck that dude - twin tips for life.

Just start mounting them further back if you're riding forwards most of the time.

I personally plan to be jumping switch on the catwalks until I die.


Mr. Bishop you're the man!! Twin Tips for life!!
Mar 9 2017 8:23PM
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OldSpice
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I switched at 49... to twin tips! Way too much fun to even think about switching back.
Mar 9 2017 9:02PM
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Mr.Bishop
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reeskiMr. Bishop you're the man!! Twin Tips for life!!


I see absolutely no reason that having a twin tip is detrimental to regular skiing.
Mar 9 2017 9:02PM
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erickson660
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This. If you have a choice why in the world would you not choose twins?
Mar 9 2017 9:14PM
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JakeBarrett
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Personally I wanna be the guy at my home mountain that all the kids call 'that old dude that shreds' when I'm like 60
Mar 9 2017 9:18PM
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OldSpice
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JakeBarrettPersonally I wanna be the guy at my home mountain that all the kids call 'that old dude that shreds' when I'm like 60


This
Mar 9 2017 9:20PM
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reeski
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Yea are there any advantages of switching I just thought maybe there would be a larger variety of all mountain flat tail skis but you're not really gaining performance by switching to flat correct? Fuck it twins for life!!
Mar 9 2017 9:25PM
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bait
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reeskiYea are there any advantages of switching I just thought maybe there would be a larger variety of all mountain flat tail skis but you're not really gaining performance by switching to flat correct? Fuck it twins for life!!

pros of a flat tail:
1)more edge in contact with the snow for the length of the ski
2)u dont spray people behind you
pros of twin:
1)bombing switch at mach 10
2)teaching your kids how to ski helps to have twintips
3)park
4)you can land switch
5)you can spray people
Mar 9 2017 10:24PM
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.otto.
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Mr.BishopTurning 38 in a few weeks and fuck that dude - twin tips for life.

Just start mounting them further back if you're riding forwards most of the time.

I personally plan to be jumping switch on the catwalks until I die.


have you had time to ski this year?
Mar 9 2017 10:40PM
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Mr.Bishop
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.otto.have you had time to ski this year?


I've been skiing every weekend. Only difference is now I'm going out with my kids and teaching them to ski at a small hill. Don't get much time to just ski on my own but I definitely have been trying to ski backwards as much as possible.

Makes the easy runs more fun for sure.
Mar 10 2017 6:46AM
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cannonballer
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47 and will always ski twin tips. I never ski switch. But I ski a LOT of tight trees. The option to back out of a dead-end is so much better with twins. Back in the day it sucked jamming your flat tails into a bump or pow as you tried to negotiate a tight tree line.
Mar 10 2017 8:31AM
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reeski
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Good points made by all. Glad to see there some slightly older rippers on here still twinning
Mar 10 2017 9:40AM
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Session
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42, it's hard for me to consider a ski if it's not a twin.
Mar 10 2017 10:15AM
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cannonballer
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reeskiGood points made by all. Glad to see there some slightly older rippers on here still twinning


You didn't have to say "slightly". We're just straight-up old!
Mar 10 2017 10:38AM
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SofaKingSick
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hopefully ill never have to switch to flat tails unless it's just one of my many skis

i ski switch less nowadays but being able to land or ride switch, even if just for a moment to save a botched landing, is a feature im unwilling to give up
Mar 10 2017 10:42AM
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Malcolm
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Mr.BishopJust start mounting them further back if you're riding forwards most of the time.


Or keep mounting them more and more forwards until there isn't enough flat surface to mount on anymore.
Mar 10 2017 10:50AM
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MikeWeinerONE
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I'm 38 and ski twins both park and big mountain. Won't ever switch to flat tail. It makes sense for FWT comps or Chamonix where you can use your ski as an anchor, but other then that twin tips is the way to go.
Mar 10 2017 10:52AM
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Mr.Bishop
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MalcolmOr keep mounting them more and more forwards until there isn't enough flat surface to mount on anymore.


I used to mount my skis backwards for better switch Skiing.

Worthless in moguls though, I stopped after Tomahawking out of my bindings trying to ski over a mogul with those tiny short tips.
Mar 10 2017 11:28AM
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reeski
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Wtf! Really? ^^
Mar 10 2017 11:36AM
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SofaKingSick
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MikeWeinerONEwhere you can use your ski as an anchor, but other then that twin tips is the way to go.


yeah the only time i wish my tails were flat is when i want to jam them in the snow. performance wise i guess there are (charging) days i wouldnt mind a flat or swallow tail but the pros dont outweigh the cons for me personally
Mar 10 2017 11:55AM
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reeski
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Ok now I have to set my sights back on twins. Any suggestions for an East Coast all mountain skier. Pow when available, crud and lots of bumps? And sometimes park
I like kinda narrow under foot. Nordica Enforcers? What else?
Mar 10 2017 6:52PM
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Greg_K
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I'm 47, 6'2"/175 lbs and have 2 pairs of Head Venturi 95 skis for Park/Groomers/crud/powder on the east coast. Have 191cm when I want to charge groomers and crud and 181cm when I hit the park or tight moguls and trees. Love them!
Mar 10 2017 10:29PM
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SofaKingSick
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reeskiOk now I have to set my sights back on twins. Any suggestions for an East Coast all mountain skier. Pow when available, crud and lots of bumps? And sometimes park
I like kinda narrow under foot. Nordica Enforcers? What else?


Idk bout you but my idea of the ideal east coast one ski quiver is ARVtis
Mar 10 2017 11:26PM
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-Dan
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NS is a buncha geezers now hahaha. Hope to be tearing it up in 10-20 years like you gentlemen.
Mar 10 2017 11:31PM
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BWalmer
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I really don't see the need to ever go back to traditional flat tail, cambered skis. Not when there's semi-twins, and full twins that ski so much better overall. If you're just looking to haul, you just have to find the right twin/semi-twin, they're not all meant to ski park.
Mar 11 2017 11:48AM
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elcornholio
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My dad is 55 and hits medium sized jumps switch lol
Mar 11 2017 9:57PM
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OldSpice
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elcornholioMy dad is 55 and hits medium sized jumps switch lol

I like your dad :)
Mar 11 2017 10:49PM
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Mitch_7495
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Awesome thread. I think really the only time to switch out of a twin tip is if you looking for a specific style ski that can't really be found in a twin tip, like an RTM 84. That ski rips and its tough to find a twin tip ski that can carve like that ski. But if you not looking for a specific type of ski twin tips are for life.
Mar 12 2017 9:28AM
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chicken
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Flat tails have a place in my quiver, but if I had only one ski it would be a twin.
Mar 12 2017 12:02PM
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mike759
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There's no harm in having twin twip, they are more versitile
Mar 12 2017 1:40PM
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kung_powpow
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reeskiWhen did you switxh or when do you think you will switch? At 25 I remember thinking I would switch at 30


I don't think I'll ever switch to flat tails just because I'm so accustomed to the way that twin tips ski. Skiing switch makes green and blue on-piste trails more interesting to me because it adds a desired degree of difficulty that wasn't there before. Those type of trails normally are boring af, but if I can ski them over opp shoulder than it makes it much more interesting
Mar 13 2017 3:44AM
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RRhighrider
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I bought a pair of Rossignol Experience 100 this season and I love them. They are the first flat tail ski that I have ridden in over 15 years. I still have 3 pairs of twintips that I ride but I love going out and crashing groomers on my new skis.
Mar 13 2017 10:12AM
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cinnabonconn
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unless i wanted some pow skis (i live in midwest so we don't even have pow) that weren't twin tip i don't think ill ever ride a flat tail.
Mar 13 2017 10:31AM
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willyg0808
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It's already been said, but yeah if the type of flat tail ski you like isn't available in a twin tip version, cop the flat tail. For example, race skis rip and are crazy fun to have in the quiver, but I've never seen a race ski with a twin tip. I wouldn't limit my options just because I can't take a ski switch.
Mar 13 2017 7:15PM
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teamdummy
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At the age of 36 I landed right on my hip on a knuckle. I thought a broke my pelvis. I didn't, but thought "ok that's it. I'm too old for this park shit". The next year I bought a flat tail, GS, carving type ski. It skied awesome-but holy fuck was it boring! Fast forward- I'm 42 back on wide,surfy twins and would never go back to a flat tail ski. There's times with twins where you can back out of a spot, or do the falling leaf style down a tight chute. Am I hucking switch dub 10's? Nope. But I can slide rails to switch all day long. Which is good enough for me.
Mar 13 2017 11:17PM
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reeski
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What you guys thinking for an all mountain east coast ski? Nordica enforcer? What else? I need new twins baaad and nows the time to
Buy
Mar 14 2017 11:54AM
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cannonballer
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reeskiWhat you guys thinking for an all mountain east coast ski? Nordica enforcer? What else? I need new twins baaad and nows the time to
Buy


If you like you're old PE's you might like:
- Fischer Big Stix 100s. (I had PE's and now have and LOVE this ski for all conditions).
- Nordica Enforcer 100. Can't go wrong, everyone loves 'em.
- Line Sick Day 102.

That's just a start.....
Mar 14 2017 3:30PM
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reeski
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Thanks Man^ I loved the PE's but they are a little to wide for me now
Mar 14 2017 4:16PM
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sambuswell
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Nordica soul riders are a ton of fun
Mar 14 2017 6:47PM
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reeski
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Is there much differnce between the enforcers and soul riders?
Mar 15 2017 7:00PM
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sambuswell
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I see enforcers as a more directional, charge ski, whereas the soul rider is a really fun playful all mountain ski. I don't think the enforcer is really a twin at all
Mar 15 2017 7:27PM
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reeski
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sambuswellI see enforcers as a more directional, charge ski, whereas the soul rider is a really fun playful all mountain ski. I don't think the enforcer is really a twin at all


Thank you I will go with Soul Rider
Mar 15 2017 8:09PM
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japanada
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Enforcers charge the fall line where as the riders are more jibbys. Enforcers are your go fast chargers, bowl ripping trench laying machines and still can ski switch. The riders are more playful and slarvey parkish tools. I love the enforcers way more personally. I have other skis for my park session days.

I just got a set of elan gsx gs race ski, stoked to have an under 110 ski for those boilerplate days on the east coast
Mar 15 2017 8:53PM
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-Colton
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I currently have a J ski Allplay and to be honest i wish i did have a more directional ski for different days. Obvi if i had the money i would have a quiver of a few.. but i always see myself in a twin tip ski... maybe just more directional and more pushed back for the deeper snow.
Mar 16 2017 9:17PM
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Zypher
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All 5 or 6, maybe 7 (lost track) of my skis are twins. I was debating on buying the Icelantic Sabres for those days when park doesn't sound fun or theres no fresh snow to be had anywhere. I ended up scrapping that idea after I realized that a stiffer, slightly heavier park ski would essentially do the same thing so I went with Black Crows Venors. Great ski, especially when you can get them for under 200 at Sierra TP.
Mar 17 2017 12:46AM
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MIHoodlum
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I get out of trouble switch too much for flats.
Mar 17 2017 1:39AM
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reeski
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Happy to say I’m 43 years of age and went back to twin tips. Just picked up a pair of Armada ARV 96’s. Sooo pumped
Dec 21 2021 9:53PM
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Woody.
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reeskiHappy to say I’m 43 years of age and went back to twin tips. Just picked up a pair of Armada ARV 96’s. Sooo pumped


I wanna be like you when I’m 43
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