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Cheekers69Kartel 108
JakeBarrettHonestly my JJ's charge harder than anything I've skied
patagonialukeWhat else have you skied??
-ON3P Wren 108 and BG
bibs_skibumDisagree about the BG being a real charger ski. It deflects a ton in crud. Skis pow like a dream, but its not super rad in crud/chop. Wrens on the other hand fucking murder everything. Crud killing charger. Love them.
I own both 186 wren 112s and 189 BGs for reference. I just wouldn't call a BG a "charger" really
DeepskierPipe cleaners take me anywhere and everywhere.
SofaKingSicki wish they'd make a high 90s waisted pipe cleaner. basically ARV96 but stiff and fast as fuck like PCs. add some nose rocker and that's my ideal daily driver
Cheekers69Kartel 108
SEABURNincorrect
DeepskierMine are perfect as hell I've broken them in so much they are still stiff in the tail and soft as hell in the nose but still incredibly chargeable. But I think something close to what youre looking for is an edollo zero. it has extra carbon in it making it stiffer but still high 90s but I have not been on ARVs yet but when I flex them they do seem soft but i fuccs with it.
patagonialukeWhat else have you skied??
JakeBarrettIve also skied the 4FRNT CRJ's, Volkl Gotamas and am currently on the k2 Shreditor 102s, and JJ's charge in deep snow and hardpack better than all other previous mentioned
SofaKingSickyou think JJs charge harder than gotamas?
not hating-- we all have our different takes on stuff, i can barely ski 5 point skis haha. but that's just so weird for me to hear
JakeBarrettJJ's charge in deep snow and hardpack better than all other previous mentioned
TurquoiseCowboy4FRNT Devastators. All day Errday.
patagonialukeWhat else have you skied??
-4FRNT Devastator
cydwhitYou guys talking the 184 or 194? I've skied the 184 a few times and not been impressed by the top end, but from what I've heard the 194 is a different beast entirely.
Wren 108 is a fun, more chargy ski.
tcurleMoment Governor
Here's some POV on them for most of the shots
https://vimeo.com/205507901
tcurleMoment Governor
Here's some POV on them for most of the shots
https://vimeo.com/205507901
SofaKingSickyeah well the ideal for me would be the ARVti but i was/still am too poor to get a pair. hopefully i can scoop up a pair in the future
gapersarefriendsHow far back do you mount em? -9.5 seems way down there
patagonialukeRad as always.
What conditions determine which days you decide to take out the Governors vs. the Bibby's?
tcurleI usually go 1 forward. It seems crazy but it isn't a full camber ski. On a park ski preferred mount is usually center or a few back. It just seems super far back because of the front rocker and pretty flat tail.
ZennanLook into the Blizzard Cochise. It is an unreal charger that really can blast over any crud or any charging conditions. Along with this, they always are given awards and a position in ski mag for some type of award. Highly recommend these bombers.
SetteePrigDoes any one know how they feel in pow, do they specifically ride big mountain or can they do a little bit of everything?
patagonialukeThere's some good notes on that in these reviews:
http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2015-2016-blizzard-cochise
http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2nd-look-15-16-blizzard-cochise
SetteePrigDoes any one know how they feel in pow, do they specifically ride big mountain or can they do a little bit of everything?
ZennanYa so basically I found that they can ride pow since they are at a 108 waist, but they are for sure heavy since they have so much titanium inside of them. Overall I find that if it is powder like maybe around 12" overnight it is doable, and you probably can't get that much better from a charging ski that isn't a charging pow ski, I think personally it finds a pretty nice balance within it there. The other thing is with just a little bit extra strength, but really not much overall, you can really still fly through the trees and the bumps and so on. Nice because on the super steep chutes, for sure capable to throw around jump turns in the crazy narrow steep areas, with the ability to just send it at the end, and maybe if your feeling it huck a cliff or two. Prolly the best skis I've ever ridden. Honestly I think that they are capable of riding a bit of everything from hard pack, charging, powder, trees, big/all mountain, even at a thick 108 waist measurement.