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Crispy.Even if the edges are already detuned from the factory? If you feel the edge underfoot on the magnus (not sure if you have or not), they're pretty dull. You think I should detune más?
BWalmerI mean, I take it to the extreme and basically go round underfoot with a belt sander...so maybe I'm not the best one to make this call for you, haha. That's just what I've done for years, and it's worked out well for me.
PowTronAll of the new Magnus come from the factory with a park detune on them...you do not have to further detune them. I promise we do it right so you don't have to try and mess with your edges :)
Crispy.To someone from ON3P, do you guys recommend further detuning of the Magnus' edges prior to rail skiing or should the factory detune be sufficient?
Jesse_Can the same be said about the kartel?
PowTronAll of the new Magnus come from the factory with a park detune on them...you do not have to further detune them. I promise we do it right so you don't have to try and mess with your edges :)
BWalmerI always add an extra detune to my park skis before hitting rails. I found that it really extends the life of the edges in the long run.
ElGatoMight be finally ready to pull the trigger on some ON3Ps after years of thinking about it...K108 as one ski quiver? I'm 6'1, 200 should I go 191?
SessionHonestly if you are going to OSQ it. Probably the 186. Almost the entire shop is actually riding the 181. I picked up the 181 last season and loved it. I'm OSQ'ing this year.
Maybe Scott can chime in.
ElGatoThanks good advice. It will be a true one ski quiver for sure, I'll probably take out my old skis on shitty preseason days or whatever but every regular season day I will be looking to ride one ski only. I'm in Utah so obviously our snow is a bit lighter than PNW, not sure how that factors. I'll be going from 7 year old 186 Blends which have become literal noodles so maybe the jump to 191 will be too much.
PowTronI'm 5'10" and 195lbs and I'm on the 186 K108 (one of the only guys here at ON3P not on the 181).
I like the 181 for old man park laps and playing around, but 186 if it was my only ski.
ElGatoSweet yeah these definitely won't touch a rail. You'd suggest 186 over 191 then as well?
PowTronI'd say to go 186 if you want them really quick and like shorter turns and spend a ton of time in the trees.
I'd go 191 if you are going to be skiing bigger lines, wide open stuff more than tight stuff, and don't get super jibby and/or don't hit those rails as you mentioned.
I just mentioned the 186 for me as I'm just a little shorter than you and about the same weight. The 191 is fun for me above treeline, but just a bit of work in super tight trees and backcountry scenarios).
Hope that helps on that decision.
ElGatoDefinitely man. I think that coupled with switching over from really old 186 Blends as a OSQ to something fatter and stiffer will land me with the 186s. I'll be putting in an order shortly, thanks again.
ElGatoDefinitely man. I think that coupled with switching over from really old 186 Blends as a OSQ to something fatter and stiffer will land me with the 186s. I'll be putting in an order shortly, thanks again.
ON3PBoom. Thanks for supporting ON3P!
PowTronGood choice. Our 186 measures true, so that is a great all-arounder.
Thanks for riding our skis.
Shoey-SkiNew catalog just dropped , stuff looks insane :
https://issuu.com/on3pskis/docs/on3pskis_sia_catalog_17.18_final.hi
iggyskierFor total transparency - these really detailed wood veneers that are out are basically internally only (for now at least). The Wren you see above was for Rowen - one of the founding members of ON3P - and there is a Kartel one out that our Marketing Manager has (he is also a long time friend of our Production Manager who hand cuts these).
These really detailed wood veneers take a substantial amount of time, hence why they are not offered publically. Trevor literally cuts there out by hand with a razor blade and then reassembles them, so the process is slow going.
We are discussing on some graphic variations for the wood veneers that would be a bit more practical for production, but no timeline for their release and right now we are keeping them classic and simple - with the wood veneer itself the primary focus.
If you have a simple/specific idea you are looking for, you are welcomed to email us and see what we can do. Thanks!
Mr_pretzelWhat size fks/pivot brakes are you guys using for the K108?
I have the 115s on my k116s so using them on the 108 makes me somewhat nervous.
Mr_pretzelWhat size fks/pivot brakes are you guys using for the K108?
I have the 115s on my k116s so using them on the 108 makes me somewhat nervous.
SlunkyHey, so I bought a pair of k98s from a local store and was just wondering if they should already be detuned, and if there’s a way to check
RparrCan confirm they do a great job detuning underfoot on the magnus. I got mine recently and I was shocked at how smooth it was underfoot. Way better job than my bum ass has ever done with a file.
Mr_pretzelWhat size fks/pivot brakes are you guys using for the K108?
I have the 115s on my k116s so using them on the 108 makes me somewhat nervous.
Mr_pretzelWhat size fks/pivot brakes are you guys using for the K108?
I have the 115s on my k116s so using them on the 108 makes me somewhat nervous.
highpeakAlso the next lowest size for FKS/Pivot is 95 as far as I now so idk what would else you would use. Now that I think of it I wonder what the K98 guys wear for FKS/Pivot. Maybe they just stretch the 95.
voy10Anyone know if Magnuses’ edges crack easy? I have a new pair and I plan on skiing 20 or more days this season, and i go hard on rails every day, but it don’t do big disasters or anything. Would I be able to use them for another season after this one?
BWalmerI skied over 100 days on my Filthy riches — same edges as Magnus — it takes a while for cracks to form, but they can happen. If they do, treat them by filing down to make sure there’s nothing jagged to pull on, seal with epoxy, clamp and clean. My FRs have 4 cracks, not one shows any sign of pulling out, most have been there for over 30 days of skiing and look exactly the same as when they first happened. I’d say my mine still have a good 50+ days of rails on them, and that’s a very conservative estimate. Don’t worry, treat them well and they will last you a long time.
voy10Thanks for the info. Also, Are edge pullouts near the tips and tails common after a ton of rail use? It happened with my old skis and it was a huge issue all season.
voy10Thanks for the info. Also, Are edge pullouts near the tips and tails common after a ton of rail use? It happened with my old skis and it was a huge issue all season.
iggyskierBefore we announce it on social tomorrow, figure you guys should know we did get a small sampling of shirts in. Live in the store.
https://shop.on3pskis.com/collections/clothing
Basic & small start - more options + hoodies be on their way, but just dipping our toe in here.
ElGatoI touched them and it made my penis move slightly. Is that normal?
iggyskierBefore we announce it on social tomorrow, figure you guys should know we did get a small sampling of shirts in. Live in the store.
https://shop.on3pskis.com/collections/clothing
Basic & small start - more options + hoodies be on their way, but just dipping our toe in here.
casualJust got my 186 Kartel 98s from the FedEx man, and I'm very pumped!
Couple questions for you guys.
1) the engraved line on the sidewall of the ski.....is that manufacturer recommended mount point for boot center? What is that mark? True center? -4, -2? Sidecut center?
2) as a guy in his early 30's who plans on using these as an everyday (non pow day) ski for patrolling, but also likes to jib, hit rails, ski switch quite a bit, where would you recommend I mount them? I got 186s, I'm between 6'-6'1" and like 185ish. Im thinking -2cm, but open to suggestions and I'm trying to figure out where -2cm from true center is relative to the imprinted line on the sidewall.
3) maybe a dumb question. I'm well aware that for many years on most skis there's no such thing as a left or right ski. However, I've noticed that the tips appear asymmetrical and almost as if the tips of the skis are shaped in such a way where one ski is supposed to be on a particular foot. Am I crazy? If not, can anyone tell me which ski is for which foot and maybe just a few words about the design philosophy behind this asymmetric tip taper (hopefully I'm articulating this well)
Lastly I just want to say it feels really good to be on a pair of ON3Ps. I've been following Scott and the company since the posts scott made showing off his homemade ski press. I know the origin of the name, and it's been awesome to see this company in ten years go from a pet project to a truly respected world class ski manufacturer. I was inspired by Will years ago to pursue patrol and avalanche mitigation work, and here I am today a Blaster and route leader, a member of CRAD and an avy tech with the flight for life program.
I know I'm rambling, but it's just such a natural fit to me to be skiing on ON3P as a fairly long time NSer (ten years in a few months) and as a patroller who never considered the field until getting to know Will (RIP friend). Hell back in 2009, I was even talking with Scott and the crew about moving to Portland to come aboard and work for em building skis. To this day I still think about what may have been had I pursued it.
Anyways, I just want to say thank you and tel you guys that I'm really pumped on what you do and how you do it. You guys deserve all the success in the world.
steviewanderTrying to decide between CT 2.0 (102) and Kartel 108 im 188Lbs and 6"3 and live on the east coast but get 2-3 trips west a year and I am looking for a one ski quiver to charge hardpack, alittle park, natty features, and pow too. I am worried the K108 are to fat and won't perform well on the hard pack, and the 98s are to narrow. and I want to be able to mout around -2 from center for swing weight and switch skiing. Is there a better on3p ski for this or am I better off with the CT 2.0s?
**This post was edited on Oct 11th 2017 at 8:07:40pm
RparrCan confirm they do a great job detuning underfoot on the magnus. I got mine recently and I was shocked at how smooth it was underfoot. Way better job than my bum ass has ever done with a file.
steviewanderI am 6'3 188lbs is the Katrel 108 in 191 right for me mounted at -2.5 from center? For some switch and alot of airs, as well as east and west coast all mountain and trees? And will it feel alot heavier than the CT 2.0 or K2 shreditor 102
**This post was edited on Oct 12th 2017 at 7:49:14pm
