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what are y'alls thoughts about Hillary Clinton post-election?
she really seems like a bitter poor loser, like she lost the election and she is constantly bitching and complaining acting like she is gods gift to the world
anyone see her twitter, it's a bunch of bullshit ?
On her twitter handle she says :Wife, mom, grandma, women+kids advocate, FLOTUS, Senator, SecState, hair icon, pantsuit aficionado, 2016 presidential candidate."
.FryI don't give a fuck what she's posting online or what her ego might entail. she would have done much more for America then Trump ever will.
Brutha she lost
there is nothing she would have done. she never got voted in, and we can't speculate that she would have been any better than Trump because she didn't win the election
there is nothing she would have done. she never got voted in, and we can't speculate that she would have been any better than Trump because she didn't win the election
Obviously she lost. I was just expressing my opinion that she would have made a better president. And while you're right that we will never know for sure, I can gaurantee that she wouldn't have stirred nearly as much controversy as Trump already has in his 3 weeks.
Also I disagree that she is a poor loser. She got absolutely robbed in the election, yet still showed up to inauguration. Anything else she may be posting on social media is irrelevant to me.
.FryAlso I disagree that she is a poor loser. She got absolutely robbed in the election, yet still showed up to inauguration. Anything else she may be posting on social media is irrelevant to me.
She lost fair and square you sad little snowflake. It's amazing you care so little about social media considering it's all ran and controlled by ignorant lefties such as yourself. Trump's contraversy is a GOOD thing it shows he isn't a pussy pushover just trying to conform to the masses.
Make America Great Again. Also can't wait til Campeador gets in here.
MGKShe lost fair and square you sad little snowflake. It's amazing you care so little about social media considering it's all ran and controlled by ignorant lefties such as yourself. Trump's contraversy is a GOOD thing it shows he isn't a pussy pushover just trying to conform to the masses.
Make America Great Again. Also can't wait til Campeador gets in here.
So caring about the future of America and it's values-which Trump's presidency threatens-makes me ignorant? I'm assuming you don't make seven figures a year. You are going to be shafted by his term along with the rest of us.
MGKShe lost fair and square you sad little snowflake. It's amazing you care so little about social media considering it's all ran and controlled by ignorant lefties such as yourself. Trump's contraversy is a GOOD thing it shows he isn't a pussy pushover just trying to conform to the masses.
Make America Great Again. Also can't wait til Campeador gets in here.
as an mgk fan, how often did your mom prenatally smoke meth?
MGKShe lost fair and square you sad little snowflake. It's amazing you care so little about social media considering it's all ran and controlled by ignorant lefties such as yourself. Trump's contraversy is a GOOD thing it shows he isn't a pussy pushover just trying to conform to the masses.
Make America Great Again. Also can't wait til Campeador gets in here.
Oh man. I can't take you seriously with those grammatical and spelling errors.
I am going to make an assumption given you're a Trump supporter. I am going to guess you HATED the controversy around Clinton's foundation, the supposed pay-for-play, Benghazi, etc. but you are OK with it surrounding Trump's administration (Flynn and Russia, Manafort and Ukraine, Trump and his business ties, which by the way he still has).
The mental gymnastics to believe that is unreal.
It's sad you're relying on a pathetic excuse for a patriot like Campeador. Dude fled the country because he didn't like how it was being run. Talk about a sad snowflake.
.MASSHOLE.Oh man. I can't take you seriously with those grammatical and spelling errors.
I am going to make an assumption given you're a Trump supporter. I am going to guess you HATED the controversy around Clinton's foundation, the supposed pay-for-play, Benghazi, etc. but you are OK with it surrounding Trump's administration (Flynn and Russia, Manafort and Ukraine, Trump and his business ties, which by the way he still has).
The mental gymnastics to believe that is unreal.
It's sad you're relying on a pathetic excuse for a patriot like Campeador. Dude fled the country because he didn't like how it was being run. Talk about a sad snowflake.
.MASSHOLE.Oh man. I can't take you seriously with those grammatical and spelling errors.
I am going to make an assumption given you're a Trump supporter. I am going to guess you HATED the controversy around Clinton's foundation, the supposed pay-for-play, Benghazi, etc. but you are OK with it surrounding Trump's administration (Flynn and Russia, Manafort and Ukraine, Trump and his business ties, which by the way he still has).
The mental gymnastics to believe that is unreal.
It's sad you're relying on a pathetic excuse for a patriot like Campeador. Dude fled the country because he didn't like how it was being run. Talk about a sad snowflake.
Nah I respect him for doing that. Instead of unpeaceful protests everytime a liberal doesn't get what they want. At least he has the balls to get up and leave instead of all these people saying they are gonna leave the country but never do. If you went to a college that made you miserable and then transfered to one that suited your needs better that wouldn't make you a snowflake.
I personally try and stand somewhat neutral on all of bashful callouts regarding both Hillary and Trump. The only thing I truly believe was benghazi because that was pretty fucking shady. Sure Trump might have bonehead moves like Russia but what president doesn't? And as far as the business ties can you really expect someone who has been a successful business man for the greater half of his life to sever all those ties in a few weeks?
MGKNah I respect him for doing that. Instead of unpeaceful protests everytime a liberal doesn't get what they want. At least he has the balls to get up and leave instead of all these people saying they are gonna leave the country but never do. If you went to a college that made you miserable and then transfered to one that suited your needs better that wouldn't make you a snowflake.
I personally try and stand somewhat neutral on all of bashful callouts regarding both Hillary and Trump. The only thing I truly believe was benghazi because that was pretty fucking shady. Sure Trump might have bonehead moves like Russia but what president doesn't? And as far as the business ties can you really expect someone who has been a successful business man for the greater half of his life to sever all those ties in a few weeks?
brutha i hate Trump, but you got to admit that cat has done more in politics over the last few weeks than Obama did in 8 years
like u really have to think, what the fuck was Obama doing?
like if Obama really wanted to shut down Guantamo Bay that mother fucker could have, but he chose not to
MGKNah I respect him for doing that. Instead of unpeaceful protests everytime a liberal doesn't get what they want. At least he has the balls to get up and leave instead of all these people saying they are gonna leave the country but never do. If you went to a college that made you miserable and then transfered to one that suited your needs better that wouldn't make you a snowflake.
I personally try and stand somewhat neutral on all of bashful callouts regarding both Hillary and Trump. The only thing I truly believe was benghazi because that was pretty fucking shady. Sure Trump might have bonehead moves like Russia but what president doesn't? And as far as the business ties can you really expect someone who has been a successful business man for the greater half of his life to sever all those ties in a few weeks?
Do you remember what happened when Obama was elected? I do. Remember Kaylon Johnson? I do.
It's clear you are too young to remember any of these things.
You only believe Benghazi? Holy shit kid. Of ALL the controversies, that one has been vetted the most. There was a fucking Congressional investigation into it.
What about it do you believe still? That she didn't answer the phone call at 3 am? I'd love to see which part of it you still believe is her fault.
Boneheaded moves?! Oh. My. God. Seriously. Listen to yourself right now. You can't be serious can you? The dude has, so far, done the following in no particular order:
1. Declared the court system a threat to national security.
2. Trashed a nuclear disarmament deal with Russia.
3. Utilized his standing as POTUS to attack companies, including one that didn't stock his daughter's failing clothing line.
4. Suggested criticizing his military actions aid the enemy.
5. Sent SEALs into a situation without clearly understanding what it entailed.
6. Hung up the Australian PM.
7. Let his Press Sec. use an unconfirmed report that Iran attacked the US which later turned out to be false.
8. Falsely mentioned voter fraud numerous times.
9. Said that US should take Iraq's oil.
10. Apparently signed Bannon to the NSC without even realizing it.
11. Attacked the credibility of our intelligence agencies, publicly.
Do I need to add more? This is not accidental. This is just a bit of what happened in the first MONTH.
.MASSHOLE.Do you remember what happened when Obama was elected? I do. Remember Kaylon Johnson? I do.
It's clear you are too young to remember any of these things.
You only believe Benghazi? Holy shit kid. Of ALL the controversies, that one has been vetted the most. There was a fucking Congressional investigation into it.
What about it do you believe still? That she didn't answer the phone call at 3 am? I'd love to see which part of it you still believe is her fault.
Boneheaded moves?! Oh. My. God. Seriously. Listen to yourself right now. You can't be serious can you? The dude has, so far, done the following in no particular order:
1. Declared the court system a threat to national security.
2. Trashed a nuclear disarmament deal with Russia.
3. Utilized his standing as POTUS to attack companies, including one that didn't stock his daughter's failing clothing line.
4. Suggested criticizing his military actions aid the enemy.
5. Sent SEALs into a situation without clearly understanding what it entailed.
6. Hung up the Australian PM.
7. Let his Press Sec. use an unconfirmed report that Iran attacked the US which later turned out to be false.
8. Falsely mentioned voter fraud numerous times.
9. Said that US should take Iraq's oil.
10. Apparently signed Bannon to the NSC without even realizing it.
11. Attacked the credibility of our intelligence agencies, publicly.
Do I need to add more? This is not accidental. This is just a bit of what happened in the first MONTH.
.MASSHOLE.Do you remember what happened when Obama was elected? I do. Remember Kaylon Johnson? I do.
It's clear you are too young to remember any of these things.
You only believe Benghazi? Holy shit kid. Of ALL the controversies, that one has been vetted the most. There was a fucking Congressional investigation into it.
What about it do you believe still? That she didn't answer the phone call at 3 am? I'd love to see which part of it you still believe is her fault.
Boneheaded moves?! Oh. My. God. Seriously. Listen to yourself right now. You can't be serious can you? The dude has, so far, done the following in no particular order:
1. Declared the court system a threat to national security.
2. Trashed a nuclear disarmament deal with Russia.
3. Utilized his standing as POTUS to attack companies, including one that didn't stock his daughter's failing clothing line.
4. Suggested criticizing his military actions aid the enemy.
5. Sent SEALs into a situation without clearly understanding what it entailed.
6. Hung up the Australian PM.
7. Let his Press Sec. use an unconfirmed report that Iran attacked the US which later turned out to be false.
8. Falsely mentioned voter fraud numerous times.
9. Said that US should take Iraq's oil.
10. Apparently signed Bannon to the NSC without even realizing it.
11. Attacked the credibility of our intelligence agencies, publicly.
Do I need to add more? This is not accidental. This is just a bit of what happened in the first MONTH.
You are definitely right I am a little too young to fully remember/understand that happened when Obama first was elected, however, I am older now and becoming more interested in politics now. I am not going to refute any of your claims, but I do have to say I don't agree that all of them are bad. I will do some further research and come back with more opinions. I do believe that Trump is the better candidate out of the two. Also as a personal point of view I would rather have a president that is at least very active compared to Obama.
MGKYou are definitely right I am a little too young to fully remember/understand that happened when Obama first was elected, however, I am older now and becoming more interested in politics now. I am not going to refute any of your claims, but I do have to say I don't agree that all of them are bad. I will do some further research and come back with more opinions. I do believe that Trump is the better candidate out of the two. Also as a personal point of view I would rather have a president that is at least very active compared to Obama.
for good or bad, trump is proving that the president has the power to make decisions and get shit done.
he really is just cutting straight thru all the buttshit and making moves
obama was a fucking clown, he is out partying with richard branson right now in the Caribbean and that guy is really showing his true colors
he never gave a fuck about the black community or all the ppl in the hood that supported his ass bcuz he was black, trump is proving how much of a scam Obama was
the first 2 years in office obama didnt do jack shit, all he did was fuck around with congress
he never shut down gitmo, never got us out of iraq, it took him till his last few days in office to lets gays get married, he never did a damn thing for the hood and all the blacks that voted his ass in. the guy was a hack
joeybootsfor good or bad, trump is proving that the president has the power to make decisions and get shit done.
he really is just cutting straight thru all the buttshit and making moves
obama was a fucking clown, he is out partying with richard branson right now in the Caribbean and that guy is really showing his true colors
he never gave a fuck about the black community or all the ppl in the hood that supported his ass bcuz he was black, trump is proving how much of a scam Obama was
the first 2 years in office obama didnt do jack shit, all he did was fuck around with congress
he never shut down gitmo, never got us out of iraq, it took him till his last few days in office to lets gays get married, he never did a damn thing for the hood and all the blacks that voted his ass in. the guy was a hack
I totally agree with everything you have said. I also somewhat agree with MASSHOLE, however, just because I back a certain candidate doesn't mean I think they are a saint and any other candidate/political party are the enemy or antichrist. That seems to be a huge issue with politics.
MGKYou are definitely right I am a little too young to fully remember/understand that happened when Obama first was elected, however, I am older now and becoming more interested in politics now. I am not going to refute any of your claims, but I do have to say I don't agree that all of them are bad. I will do some further research and come back with more opinions. I do believe that Trump is the better candidate out of the two. Also as a personal point of view I would rather have a president that is at least very active compared to Obama.
It's fine if people don't have issues with them, but the hypocriticalness of the right(and left) over the certain actions is absurd.
It's funny you complain about the lack of activeness from Obama. When he did issues EO's, this was the response of the GOP: "We have an increasingly lawless presidency where he is actually doing the job of Congress, writing new policies and laws without going through Congress.”
My biggest issue with Trump (besides his abysmal economic plan) is how much he and his administration lie. He is living in a world with alternative facts (thanks KAC). The truth is, facts aren't partisan but this administration is hellbent on making it appear that they are. By doing so, he is hurting the bedrock of democracy.
.MASSHOLE.It's fine if people don't have issues with them, but the hypocriticalness of the right(and left) over the certain actions is absurd.
It's funny you complain about the lack of activeness from Obama. When he did issues EO's, this was the response of the GOP: "We have an increasingly lawless presidency where he is actually doing the job of Congress, writing new policies and laws without going through Congress.”
My biggest issue with Trump (besides his abysmal economic plan) is how much he and his administration lie. He is living in a world with alternative facts (thanks KAC). The truth is, facts aren't partisan but this administration is hellbent on making it appear that they are. By doing so, he is hurting the bedrock of democracy.
Hillary lied throughout her 30 year political career
.MASSHOLE.You only believe Benghazi? Holy shit kid. Of ALL the controversies, that one has been vetted the most. There was a fucking Congressional investigation into it.
What about it do you believe still? That she didn't answer the phone call at 3 am? I'd love to see which part of it you still believe is her fault.
You have zero.. and I mean zero knowledge of anything that fucken happened.
RevelinyourstokeYou have zero.. and I mean zero knowledge of anything that fucken happened.
Really? You want to go there? For fucks sake, that fact is actually verifiable. It's called timezones dipshit.
And that Congressional Hearing? You think it's a farce? Gowdy was frothing at the god damn mouth to find her guilty of it. So were the rest of the GOPers at the hearing.
So please, before you actually claim to know more, tell me what she did that makes her so fucking guilty of what happened.
.MASSHOLE.And that Congressional Hearing? You think it's a farce? Gowdy was frothing at the god damn mouth to find her guilty of it. So were the rest of the GOPers at the hearing.
tell me what she did that makes her so fucking guilty of what happened.
First off, she mishandled classified information.. that is a fact and one which was proven during the hearing. If that had been anyone else that didn't hold her "elite" status, whether a GS employee or not, they would have been court-martialed and sent to Leavenworth. I have seen it first hand and will send you PLENTY of verifiable examples if need be. When it comes to national security, there needs to be a strong line as to what can and can not happen as lives are at stake, and that sees no party lines. Whether it's an E-1 in the military or the fucken president of the United States.
That is on top of the fact that there was clearly a very large threat that was constantly thrown down. One which was on a continuous chain of requests and had NOTHING to do with funding.
.MASSHOLE.So please, before you actually claim to know more
...
Don't claim shit without backing it up.
I spent six years in that area and was aboard the the mount whitney who was commanding operations during the both the Libyan revolution and the 2012 attacks in Benghazi. With a TS/SCI clearance, I was pushing sitreps through message traffic during it all.
Additionally, I worked with individuals under contract through triple canopy in the private sector. If you doubt me.. shoot me a message and I'll verify it all for you.
RevelinyourstokeFirst off, she mishandled classified information.. that is a fact and one which was proven during the hearing. If that had been anyone else that didn't hold her "elite" status, whether a GS employee or not, they would have been court-martialed and sent to Leavenworth. I have seen it first hand and will send you PLENTY of verifiable examples if need be. When it comes to national security, there needs to be a strong line as to what can and can not happen as lives are at stake, and that sees no party lines. Whether it's an E-1 in the military or the fucken president of the United States.
That is on top of the fact that there was clearly a very large threat that was constantly thrown down. One which was on a continuous chain of requests and had NOTHING to do with funding.
I spent six years in that area and was aboard the the mount whitney who was commanding operations during the both the Libyan revolution and the 2012 attacks in Benghazi. With a TS/SCI clearance, I was pushing sitreps through message traffic during it all.
Additionally, I worked with individuals under contract through triple canopy in the private sector. If you doubt me.. shoot me a message and I'll verify it all for you.
Anyway, shes a lying fucken cunt.
Yes, she mishandled classified information. We know that. What the contents are however, we don't know.
But, since you're in the military you should know two things. Firstly, the levels of classification and how those can change retroactively. Secondly, you should know that civilian courts differ from military courts. The SoS is NOT a member of the military. I don't believe the POTUS is either, even though he is CoC. Therefore, you cannot prosecute them under military laws. This isn't rocket science. None of this is. It just requires some critical thinking.
And since you claim to have been there (which I'm not going to doubt, I'll trust you on this) then you should know that she was cleared of all wrongdoing during those events after 7 Congressional hearings. I'm assuming these hearings heard hell of a lot more about what actually happened that night than you did.
.MASSHOLE.Yes, she mishandled classified information. We know that. What the contents are however, we don't know.
TS or Secret information or items are TS or Secret whether its a USB drive with a dick pick or military strategy.
.MASSHOLE.Secondly, you should know that civilian courts differ from military courts. The SoS is NOT a member of the military. I don't believe the POTUS is either, even though he is CoC. Therefore, you cannot prosecute them under military laws.
Again... there needs to be a fine line that sees no boundaries so we don't have to deal with bullshit like this.
.MASSHOLE.And since you claim to have been there (which I'm not going to doubt, I'll trust you on this) then you should know that she was cleared of all wrongdoing during those events after 7 Congressional hearings. I'm assuming these hearings heard hell of a lot more about what actually happened that night than you did.
I don't doubt that.. but I do know for a fact that she looked into the eyes of a wife and daughter and told them that their husband/father was killed because of a fucken video and that it had nothing to do with her. For that, she deserves a damn brick in the face.
She found a gray and used it to keep her ass out of prison.
.MASSHOLE.Yes, she mishandled classified information. We know that. What the contents are however, we don't know.
But, since you're in the military you should know two things. Firstly, the levels of classification and how those can change retroactively. Secondly, you should know that civilian courts differ from military courts. The SoS is NOT a member of the military. I don't believe the POTUS is either, even though he is CoC. Therefore, you cannot prosecute them under military laws. This isn't rocket science. None of this is. It just requires some critical thinking.
And since you claim to have been there (which I'm not going to doubt, I'll trust you on this) then you should know that she was cleared of all wrongdoing during those events after 7 Congressional hearings. I'm assuming these hearings heard hell of a lot more about what actually happened that night than you did.
and for the record.. while I am a conservative, you wont find me jumping down the throat of someone for having conflicting opinions. Except for this one.. so I'd rather just agree to disagree and just enjoy the fact that the Patriots won the super bowl.
RevelinyourstokeTS or Secret information or items are TS or Secret whether its a USB drive with a dick pick or military strategy.
Again... there needs to be a fine line that sees no boundaries so we don't have to deal with bullshit like this.
I don't doubt that.. but I do know for a fact that she looked into the eyes of a wife and daughter and told them that their husband/father was killed because of a fucken video and that it had nothing to do with her. For that, she deserves a damn brick in the face.
She found a gray and used it to keep her ass out of prison.
I have no idea what that first sentence is saying.
There can't be a fine line because the courts are different. Would it be beneficial? Sure. But look at Petraeus, he did something similar, was caught yet didn't end up in prison.
Revelinyourstokeand for the record.. while I am a conservative, you wont find me jumping down the throat of someone for having conflicting opinions. Except for this one.. so I'd rather just agree to disagree and just enjoy the fact that the Patriots won the super bowl.
I don't have a problem with conflicting opinions, I just have a problem with controversial statements being made without anything to back them up. In this day and age you get a lot of BS being spewed as fact by both the left and the right that is frankly so very wrong.
.MASSHOLE.I have no idea what that first sentence is saying.
There can't be a fine line because the courts are different. Would it be beneficial? Sure. But look at Petraeus, he did something similar, was caught yet didn't end up in prison.
RevelinyourstokeThe first sentence I'm pretty much saying that something classified as secret is still secret regardless of its contents.
So it's impossible to create a fine line? I find it hard to believe that a systematic system can be put in play.
And yes that article references what I am talking about.
Ah yes, I see that now. I understand that, I was under the impression that information could retroactively be changed to classified/TS depending on situations that followed.
We can agree to disagree on the court issue.
If that's the article, then all I see is this "But the lack of hard evidence makes it impossible to know what really happened between Clinton and these families." And to me, I'm not going to jump to assumptions about what was said or was not said between her and these families.
I've gone on the record here numerous times saying I'm not a Clinton fan, but I do think that there has been a massive campaign of misinformation about her and her actions spread throughout the public realm.
.MASSHOLE.Ah yes, I see that now. I understand that, I was under the impression that information could retroactively be changed to classified/TS depending on situations that followed.
We can agree to disagree on the court issue.
If that's the article, then all I see is this "But the lack of hard evidence makes it impossible to know what really happened between Clinton and these families." And to me, I'm not going to jump to assumptions about what was said or was not said between her and these families.
I had never seen that article and actually was told by word of mouth from another individual employed as a PMC way before this shit blew up and become the hot topic on every news outlet.
.FryObviously she lost. I was just expressing my opinion that she would have made a better president. And while you're right that we will never know for sure, I can gaurantee that she wouldn't have stirred nearly as much controversy as Trump already has in his 3 weeks.
Controversy? He's doing what he said when he was running and everyone voted for. The only people that are bitching about it is those "WITH HER"
They fixed her up good for the election, but this is what she looks like after. Now I am a strong critic of post-modernism but people plain would not have elected her had she looked like this all this all the time. This is what she actually looks like.
