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Can my skis be saved?

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Muteman
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I have a piar of seth pistols that have been mounted three times and basically have no more integirty in the core. I don not however want to give them up because i only got to ski them 4 times due to a person on this site who totally screwed me over. I had an idea to plug up all of the existing holes and mount a 2mm flexible steel palte to the ski using epoxy and 4 screws as a low profile mounting plate. I was wondering if this idea would work. I talked to a couple people who work in shops and they say that it is worth a shot. I jsut wanted a few more opinions.
Here is a diagram of what I want to do.

Insane_skier:
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I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
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Feb 3 2005 1:46AM
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Melvs
Posts: 15174 - Karma: 480
it's worth a shot, but the core of the ski may be shot already. again, worth a shot.
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Feb 3 2005 1:48AM
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Jon-Jon
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what the...



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Feb 3 2005 1:48AM
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TheStamos
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Its worth a shot for sure. Who screwed you?
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Feb 3 2005 1:49AM
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Utahpowderskier
Posts: 1336 - Karma: 14
Its a whole lot better than throwing them away.
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Feb 3 2005 1:51AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
Sam Caylor. THis guy is a total douche. Flat out liued to me and said they were in good shape. That wasn't the case. They had been mounted three times. I couldn't tell that because the bindings covered the holes. I only found out when I ripped the heel piece off on a 180 over like a 10 footer. I landed fine and then bam the heelpiece jsut fell off.
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 1:51AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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how much is a broken leg worth to you? a cheap pair of skis obviously. Jimmy rigging something you plan on flying fast and high on is very stupid


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Feb 3 2005 1:51AM
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TwinTipWonder
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Uhh, no, no no and no. First of all, are you going to drill MORE holes in the ski to put this plate on? Secondly, that epoxy wont do shit after the first day. Itll flex it self rotten. In addition to that, the skis would lose ALL integrity that they had before. Your skis would ride like any LINE ski, where its unflexable under the boot. In all aspects of the thing, those skis are powder skis, and really soft man. Plug the holes up and remount, your core doesnt have much integrity to begin with.

Plus, if the holes are really spread out, IE - 2/3 different brands were mounted giving very different and dispersed hole patters, you should be just fine anyways.
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Feb 3 2005 1:51AM
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Phrosty
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yea who fucked you over, I bet it was a fat kid.



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Feb 3 2005 1:51AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
DOe sanybody who works in a shop thinks this is a good diea provided I am careful when positioning the bindings so that they don't kill me.
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 1:52AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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I heard bad things about that kid all the time


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Feb 3 2005 1:52AM
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Melvs
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sam wouldn't do that... man, that's so low of him. But ya, be careful, but it's worth a shot.
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Feb 3 2005 1:52AM
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TwinTipWonder
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ORRR, do they still have a warranty?
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Feb 3 2005 1:54AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
The problem with moving them around on the skis was that i tried that and they ripped out again. I was thinknig about trying this because the steel would give the binding a little bit more material to bite into.
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 1:54AM
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Phrosty
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man this thread's movn fast



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Feb 3 2005 1:55AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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muteman dont be a dumbass, if youve already tried mounting and the shits just ripping out its obviously gonna do the same to on the hill under lots of stress


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Feb 3 2005 1:55AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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I'm sure if you sent the kid money that ripped you off I'll give you a receipe for another package to send him


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Feb 3 2005 1:56AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
I don't undertand Ice.
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 1:58AM
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TwinTipWonder
Posts: 1078 - Karma: 10
HEELICOILS man. If they already ripped out, thats a warranty issue by itself.
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Feb 3 2005 1:58AM
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johanblaze
Posts: 4987 - Karma: 345
if it doesnt work hang them on your wall, honor the seth pistols, and masturbate. then smoke weed and youll feel better.



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Feb 3 2005 1:58AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
They aren't warranteable. I tried already. Talked to Gutt and everything. And the helicoils didn't help. this is kind a a last chance attempt. I wanan be safe when trying this. Im gunna work with a certified binding tech when doing this.
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 1:59AM
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numbsy
Posts: 149 - Karma: 10
They have a decent core. Go nutz. If you pull out, ...oh well. If not, Fuckin' right on.
Feb 3 2005 2:00AM
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TwinTipWonder
Posts: 1078 - Karma: 10
This is really idiotic man... think about the sequence of events....

Bindings wont hold, so what makes you think the plate will? Gonna use some fairy dust? Plate rips out, bindings go with it, you smash your face.

If youre going to do this fucking plate idea, at least look on ebay for some atomic plates that theyd put on their stomps and whatnot. At least then those plates are anchored better.
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Feb 3 2005 2:04AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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Also if the holes jackass left in the ski were not plugged with the little plastic plugs or glued up chances are moisture got into your core and affected the integrity of it


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Feb 3 2005 2:05AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
the holes were plugged
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 2:06AM
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Kev
Posts: 7411 - Karma: 35
there no where lese on the ski you can them out them? ie. core center or at 0 traditional, there is no where you can mount inbettween? if you can try the heli coils again.

or try to mount tele bindings on them, and then learn to tele for fun.

that plate would be wack as hell man.




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Feb 3 2005 2:06AM
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tride
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If you want to go for a real last ditch effort that is guaranteed to keep the bindings on the skis, I've seen this done before: drill right through the ski, flip it over and use a large bore drill to increase the size of the hole in the base large enough to fit the T end of a T-Bolt in there. Then you mount your bindings with the t-bolts and p-tex back over the holes in the base. Looks like shit and you won't win any races on them, but the binding will never ever come off, and it beats throwing away your skis.
Feb 3 2005 2:07AM
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Utahpowderskier
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^what the hell? Are you high?
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Feb 3 2005 2:10AM
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TwinTipWonder
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HAHA, thats a funny one.


May as well try this then man. Cut out a section under the boot where youre going to mount. Get a dremel tool and take some of the core out enough so you can put that metal plate underneath the core. Then put the base material back on VIA base weld or expoxy it.
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Feb 3 2005 2:10AM
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TwinTipWonder
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This thread has had a 30% post/views ratio. I think thats a record besides the hot slut thread.
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Feb 3 2005 2:11AM
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tride
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Like I said, I've seen it done and it works.
Feb 3 2005 2:13AM
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Utahpowderskier
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where did you see that?
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Feb 3 2005 2:13AM
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tride
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The place is chock full of inventive hippies who don't want to throw things out.
Feb 3 2005 2:16AM
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Utahpowderskier
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if all else fails you could make one of those kick ass adirondak (sp?) chairs with em.
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Feb 3 2005 2:18AM
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tride
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Maybe I misled you by saying 'T-Bolts', I don't mean the big ones that you use for lumber, I mean ones similar to the ones that you often use on ski boots, sometimes known as 'suck screws'. So the holes in the base are not much bigger than a penny, and then you cover those holes with p-tex anyway. It's secure as hell and way less work than mounting an internal plate would be.
Feb 3 2005 2:23AM
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Deezl
Posts: 2112 - Karma: 8
Drive, fly, swim to the guys house who sold them to you and shove them up his ass.

What's his SN so none of us ever get involved with him.

To the guy who sold him these skis.....I hope karma takes its toll on you and your whole family.
Feb 3 2005 2:23AM
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Jib_This
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Well, if the rumours are true, Seth himself rides his Pistols with a Deflex plate on them. The plate itself is more or less the same idea as your concept, but super fucking stiff, and has a big layer of rubber underneath it to dampen vibration. It would only add about 2 cm of stack height to your bindings, so it's not super high. If you can find one, it'd be easier than making your own. Granted, it'd stiffen up the ski considerably, but if your core is already fucked, you might as well. The added stiffness might help you out.







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Feb 3 2005 3:18AM
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Muteman
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 12
yeah i wad thinking about adding a small layer of stiff rubber underneath the whole thing.
Insane_skier:
Under my name It sais beginner.
I am very discouraged to the fact that the site adminster didn't look at my profile or ask before doing something like this. I may be new to this website but I have been skiing more then most of you.
PLEASE research or ask before making such assumptions like this one.
Feb 3 2005 9:45AM
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3rdCoastskier
Posts: 206 - Karma: 11
burn em'
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Feb 3 2005 9:47AM
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d-loc
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why trust anyone on the site... exspecially sam, a fat oblivious non skier who thinks hes cool ;)



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Feb 3 2005 9:49AM
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ToddP
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take a pic of the skis and lets take a look at them!
Feb 3 2005 9:55AM
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dontH8innovate
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go with the rubbet over steel and attach the steal in the middle (like the line binding, where there are no holes, you should be good, and if you aren't your not any worse off than you are now
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Feb 3 2005 11:08AM
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zeckgx
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plug all the holes with silicone then get a strip of .125 HDPE and drill the holes for the bindings slightly undersized so prob a letter j drill bit, then use a strong wood glue and completely fill up the holes, then mount and let it all cure over a day or so. cant say if it will last forever but its an idea. also if no hdpe use urthane.
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Feb 3 2005 12:34PM
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Utahpowderskier
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^ that kid payed attention in shop.
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Feb 3 2005 12:35PM
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C.J.
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Thoes skis are done, make some thing cool out of them.
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Feb 3 2005 12:47PM
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freestyler540
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It could work,but they will break,best to buy new ones.


Responsability,what's that?
Feb 3 2005 1:08PM
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rodadeaco
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I you put a steel plate on it, you could extend it out the front and back past the bindings and put about 10 screws into the skis. And the screws from the bindings would never rip out of the steel plate. Give it a try, should work fine.

big whoop wanna fight about it?
Feb 3 2005 1:37PM
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SteezePatrol
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I would just sell them to some dumb kid and tell him that here is nothing wrong with them

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Feb 3 2005 1:37PM
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rodadeaco
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And then he'll be just like the asshole that sold him the skis.

big whoop wanna fight about it?
Feb 3 2005 1:40PM
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switchskier88
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yah id kill whoever sold em to you if i were you
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