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What a good binding that won't break

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Lucky_julian
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My friend broke 2 marker squires bindings in 10 laps in the park I was wondering if ther where any indestructible binding out there?
Jan 14 2017 7:11PM
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tdollo
Posts: 3795 - Karma: 18,751
squires are shit. Marker griffons / jesters are more durable but still made out of plastic. really depends on how much you want to spend but Look Pivots/Rossignal FKS are pretty strong apparently (I've never personally ridden them). I ride on Jesters pros and have never had issues what so ever.
Jan 14 2017 7:16PM
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Slush
Posts: 1916 - Karma: 12,960
I've heard squires aren't that good. I have Tyrolia Attack 13 bindings and they've held up against pretty much everything. Honestly it's about how much you're gonna invest. You get what you pay for
Jan 14 2017 7:18PM
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milo-mcsenderson
Posts: 636 - Karma: 8,374
Jester or Jester Pros or FKS/Look Pivot.

Markers are plastic but if you break the brakes you're sweet as they're easy to replace. With FKS you need a new heel piece.

Can't go wrong with either, but stay away from Squires, it's worth spending the extra to not have Squires
Jan 14 2017 7:43PM
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The.Fish
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Did you break the brake or the actual binding? It is very common to break marker brakes. But anybody on here will say that if u want a durable binding then u should get the fks 14 or 18, i forget which one, since they are all metal.
Jan 14 2017 8:08PM
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Cadenmccullough
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Fks or pivots... /thread
Jan 14 2017 8:35PM
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Crispy.
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CadenmcculloughFks or pivots... /thread


*Atomic/Salomon STH2 13 or 16 /thread
Jan 14 2017 10:32PM
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profa_212
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Squires are a children's binding essentially. They are in no way shape or form made for park or any serious riding. Get a real binding. Jester, pivot/fks, attack, or sth2
Jan 14 2017 11:00PM
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Mr.Bishop
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Crispy.*Atomic/Salomon STH2 13 or 16 /thread


Yeah man, the STH 16 series has been fantastic for years if you ask me. I've ridden whatever version of these that have been out for at least 10 years and loved it.
Jan 16 2017 9:07AM
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ljackstar
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Get AAATack 18s, crank them, and then die in the backcountry dropping 30 foot cliffs
Jan 16 2017 1:31PM
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grilled_steeze
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Tyrolia AAAtack, Look Pivot/Rossi FKS (same thing). My experience with marker is that they're sketchy and heavy. Pivots and FKS' are heavy too but a great binding anyway.
Jan 16 2017 5:17PM
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TheMollyWop
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Rossi FKS, I am on those atm and they are a solid binding. My last set up consisted of Solomon STH driver. Both held up to a beating
Jan 16 2017 7:31PM
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mike759
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I bought the Salomon z12 bindings because they are cheap af and I kept breaking my previous bindings, but surprisingly they've lasted 2 seasons
Jan 16 2017 10:56PM
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petrov
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Look Pivot / FKS can take a beating.
Jan 17 2017 2:57AM
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lilgapaboi
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FKS
Jan 17 2017 10:06AM
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fries
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FKS/Pivot

durable bindings. made out of metal, not plastic.
Jan 17 2017 9:39PM
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Emma_Watson
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Not salomon!
Jan 17 2017 10:46PM
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Peter.
Posts: 23796 - Karma: 13,014
a binding that is mostly/all metal will be more durable, so just look for that. most companies make one
Jan 17 2017 10:57PM
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Casey
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mike759I bought the Salomon z12 bindings because they are cheap af and I kept breaking my previous bindings, but surprisingly they've lasted 2 seasons


That is a surprise. the Z 12 heelpiece from a few years ago was seriously flawed. The rear heelpiece screws only hold the actual heelpiece to the ski through an extremely weak piece of plastic housing along the baseplate that didn't hold up. The set I had completely shattered. If the screw heads weren't so oversized people would be dying left and right. Horrible design I have never liked Salomon bindings.
Jan 17 2017 10:59PM
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gak98
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Tyrolia AAAtack bindings are the shit super lightweight and pretty bombproof
Jan 18 2017 12:06AM
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mike759
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CaseyThat is a surprise. the Z 12 heelpiece from a few years ago was seriously flawed. The rear heelpiece screws only hold the actual heelpiece to the ski through an extremely weak piece of plastic housing along the baseplate that didn't hold up. The set I had completely shattered. If the screw heads weren't so oversized people would be dying left and right. Horrible design I have never liked Salomon bindings.

I wouldnt doubt it, i had the salomon s10 bindings before the z12 and i had to replace parts everytime i went skiing, because something would always just snap off
Jan 18 2017 12:10AM
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Park.
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ljackstarGet AAATack 18s, crank them, and then die in the backcountry dropping 30 foot cliffs


Ive been trying to post a pic of my FKS's for like 10 minutes now...

I have 2 pairs of 180s. 1 pair was from last year, and I got a new pair this season. Last season's pair is absolutely fucked. They still work, no brakes, toe is fine, but the heelpiece is mangled to shit and none of the shops I brought it to would touch it because of liability.

2nd pair has probably ~30 days so far this season, maybe a bit more. toes are fine, no brakes, (no surprise), but heelpiece is no bueno. The black rectangle stomp pad was ripped out and just fell off the binding.

Then I have some Tyrolia 18x's in the middle of these two that have about as many days as the 2nd pair of FKS's and they are by far the most durable and look like they are too.

Point of saying this (still gona try to get a pic up but its not working) is that Pivots can break too. They will work, but they can get fucked up. I recommend the Tyrolia's. They don't feel quite as nice as Pivots, but they are definitely tankier (18's atleast), lighter, and you can replace the fucking brakes.
Jan 18 2017 12:50AM
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Park.
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(still gona try to get a pic up but its not working) [/quote][/quote]

it worked... tru
Jan 18 2017 12:51AM
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eheath
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Anyone who says their fks broke in an unreasonable amount of time either got a defect or are lying.

Sure, other bindings work fine, as many have mentioned tyrolia 19 or whatever, STH16, basically any high end binding with metal is going to work great.

If you're < 175lbs and not the hardest skier, a cheaper binding thats made to be lighter (more plastic less metal) will work just fine.

There is a reason so many 'pro' skiers use fks bindings if they don't have a binding sponsor. Hell some people are even sponsored by a company that makes bindings but they use fks.

One pair of fks' i own i bought brand new 12 years ago. Sure, they're beat up as fuck, but when you're strapped in you can't tell the difference between a brand new fks and one that's 10 years old. That's why i only use fks, also the fact I'm harder on equipment than most.
Jan 18 2017 1:23AM
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THESAUCEPOSSE
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gotta back eheath on this one

fks til death

450 is a lot of money but well worth the investment when you consider that you won't need a new binding for at least 4 seasons
Jan 18 2017 4:47AM
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juanborlando
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all bindings can break. especially when youre a park skier and they are constantly getting hit on rails, smashed around, etc. as people have pointed out here, getting a 16-18 din with metal in it is your best bet.

i am a firm believer that the newer FKS dont live up to the hype that they have, especially the 14s. the ones they used to make that people still use seem to still hold their weight, although as FKS get older they dont release as well as they did when they were new. im not saying dont buy FKS, its still a great binding, but dont drink the kool aid and get them cause everyone else did. there are other options, but having a squire, or even any 14 din binding for that matter isnt a good choice if youre going for "indestructible"

source: i mount thousands of skis every year
Jan 18 2017 8:03AM
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shredasaurus
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marker jesters or pivots, they hold up really good for a while for the price you pay for them.
Jan 18 2017 8:54AM
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The.Fish
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There is no way you broke 2 squires in 10 days if your best trick is a 180... im sorry something doesn't add up
Jan 18 2017 9:18AM
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saskskier
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My Deadbolt 18's (Tyrolia Peak 18) are going on ten years now and going strong. My Attack 16's are going on three years and never had an issue with them. That's coming from a 6'4, 250lb+ guy

Tyrolia/4frnt for life.
Jan 18 2017 1:00PM
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eheath
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THESAUCEPOSSEgotta back eheath on this one

fks til death

450 is a lot of money but well worth the investment when you consider that you won't need a new binding for at least 4 seasons


I mean you don't even have to buy brand new ones. Tons of 8/10 condition fks bindings exists for < $300 and those will last forever.
Jan 18 2017 1:04PM
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Anti-Turtle
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mike759I wouldnt doubt it, i had the salomon s10 bindings before the z12 and i had to replace parts everytime i went skiing, because something would always just snap off


I can third this. Had a pair of STH10's from a few years ago. Had a bit of snow on my boot and stomped kinda hard into the bindings one day; was slightly off center.

boom, brake screw was stripped and fell out and the heel piece shattered laterally on both sides. Big old crack through the plastic right through the main heel screws. They were about a year and half old at this point.

Bought a pair of FKS and had zero problems since then.
Jan 18 2017 1:27PM
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rsvp
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eheathAnyone who says their fks broke in an unreasonable amount of time either got a defect or are lying.


respectfully disagree

but also

FKS 18's are as bomber as it gets
Jan 18 2017 5:16PM
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BigBobo
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I feel you i have broken 3 pairs of squires.
Jan 20 2017 12:00AM
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CarinthiaCoach
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rossi fks and look pivots

they're the same binding just with different logos painted on them

they both come in a 12 din, 14 din, and 18 din

the 12s and 14s are very durable but have some plastic parts

the 18 dins are all metal construction and seem to be indestructible - I picked up my first pair in like 2008 or 2009 and they're still going strong

another bonus with them is that they're lower to the ski than most bindings which translates to more control

that doesn't even touch upon the knee saving turntable heel feature
Jan 20 2017 1:11AM
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AlfredHitchCAULK
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essentially the more expensive the more durable with bindings your pretty much get what you pay for
Jan 20 2017 2:27AM
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