Cold toes, new boots, and frostbite

rubyshilaI know you said no to boot heaters, but there are now heated socks available that have a much lower profile with the battery packs, so you'd have a more difficult time breaking them. The battery packs are flexible too. I got them for my mom last year and she really likes them. Best of luck!

parkplaygroundI also make sure they dry out every night.

CheddarJackAre they getting wet while you ski on them? Have you tried taping the top of the toe like racers do? Probably wouldn't completely solve your problem even if it prevented all moisture from getting in but it could help. When I started doing that on my old 2-piece nordicas that were clear I noticed a increase in warmth and I could see less moisture through the shell. Also are your feet sweaty at all when you put them on and do you do outside quickly after or hang out for a minute so that your feet may start to sweat?

Also, when you take them off mid day and let your feet thaw then go back out, do you notice any improvement (if you ever do that)? If so, your feet probably swell like mine do. I'd thaw my feet every day during lunch and most of the time they'd be warm for 2 or 3 hours afterwords.

If you do end up buying intuitions, be very careful to make sure they'll fit your boot. I made the mistake of not checking for my nordicas and now have expensive liners just laying around collecting dust.

But at the end of the day, you went from a 3 piece med-high volume boot to a 2 piece med-low volume boot. The latter is gunna be colder pretty much 9 times out of 10.

Aparkerget intuition liners

parkplaygroundthanks

doitbigwhat size are you? i have a brand new pair of pro wraps in a 24.5

ljackstarThey are also super fucking expensive

reBlockeboots/insulated shoes on the drive up - you don't want sweaty feet / wet socks going into your boots or youre screwed from the start

Scotty_BWhat can I do to stop sweat? I wear boots (ll bean or mucks) with wool socks in the car and my feet are always sweaty when I put my boots on.

onenerdykidSent you a PM with a suggestion.

If that doesn't work, I second these already mentioned ideas: Intuition liners and heated socks (when you get the coin).

onenerdykidSent you a PM with a suggestion.

If that doesn't work, I second these already mentioned ideas: Intuition liners and heated socks (when you get the coin).

ArseneFoxIf you go jog, try bare foot jogging in the grass

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parkplaygroundSo I have bad circulation, and I have since I can remember. Ive always had colder feet, but This season, its gotten to the point of my feet getting so cold at about the 2.5 hour mark that they go numb, and Ive gotten minor frostbite 3 times this season on my big toes.

I had Nordica Ace 3 star boots for 3 seasons and while my feet got cold, It was never bad enough that I would have to stop skiing.

I Just bought new boots (Hawx ultra 120s), and my feet have never been colder in my life. after 3 runs they are freezing and cold as fuck. I have to unbuckle everything after every run and it still doesnt help much.

These boots were fitted by a professional, and there are no pressure points. I like a tight ass fit in my boots, but I dont buckle them so tight that my circulation gets cut off.

There is zero chance that buying a boot heater will work because I will just break it. Im going to start investing in boot warmers, but thats a short term solution. The most noticeable change thats happened this season is that I put my booster strap under the shells, so its only tightening the liner to my leg. I was told to do this by a bootfitter and I love how it feels. Ive never heard of a booster strap cutting off circulation though, and I dont tighten them too much.

I need advice.

reBlockeThe only things that cause cold feet are moisture and reduced circulation (it's never lack of insulation - think how much insulation is in even the shittiest boots compared to std sorels). Frostbite on the tip and inside edge of your big toe is classic for compression on the top of your foot reducing circulation. As mentioned, intuitions are the way to go, mainly because the foam is firmer so you can maintain performance without cranking your shells down. Other things though:

circulation:
-wear the thinnest smartwool (or equiv.) socks you can get.
-warm your core (e.g. with an extra layer, particularly over thighs and trunk)
-never wear anything other than your socks under the shin of your boot (e.g. full length long johns or tights)
-stay hydrated

moisture:
-put your ski socks on right before you put your boots on, and don't wear boots/insulated shoes on the drive up - you don't want sweaty feet / wet socks going into your boots or youre screwed from the start
-not familiar with that particular boot, but some boots can let snow in under the front buckle where the two sides of the foreboot meet - if yours has a gap, tape it so you aren't getting moisture in from the outside

IsitWinterYet17I layer like a beast. Cold gear leggings and turtle neck, polyester or fleece sweat pants, fleece pullover, then snowpants, coat. I am never cold in my core or large extremities (just hands and feet). For feet I've tried everything in terms of socks in varying thickness. Right now I do a nylon sock followed by wool/synthetic blend ski socks. My problem is I think I have Raynauds. My hands used to always go numb too. Then I got goose down mittens- solved that problem. I could probably benefit from a boot warmer, but I think I'll pass for now. Feet probably get cold faster because your range of motion in a boot is limited, so combine a not moving foot with boots that are tight, and it's a recipe for disaster.

I never thought about this before, but what if you lined your boots with a space blanket? That might reflect a bunch of heat back in.

Park.Forgot to reply to this. Got a warranty on the the 120s so I have a fresh pair that I have to work with so I'm expecting the same problems. I've do everything you listed with decent results, but the I still ended up in the lodge to let my feet warm up.

My toes get cold all the time in the fall even when its 40-60 degrees. I can't go with conventional bootwarmers because I've managed to break every piece of hardgood equipment I own, so I just see the investment to be a waste of money. Parents have the same circulation problems as me and bootwarmers worked for them so maybe when there are more durable options out there..

IsitWinterYet17Same thing happens to me, but it's more like the front half of my foot goes numb before I decide to head in and warm up. My boots were too big and still had this happen. Mostly on 20 and below days. Had this problem for years, but I do have shitty circulation. Shitty as in the tips of my feet and heels start to go numb in my house in the winter if it drops below 65-68 inside. I did figure out last year that if I stop skiing after a few hours and head inside and warm up my feet, they usually stay warm for the rest of the day. Not sure why though.