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a_pla5tic_bagDid you also have issues with Mach1 boots?
a_pla5tic_bagDid you also have issues with Mach1 boots?
.MASSHOLE.Seeing as it has no walk-mode, I doubt it.
Good to know about this though, I've heard rumors about the 27.5s, but the fact that it seems to happen to all is not a good sign.
Glad I went with Mtn Labs now.
ggfski42I have last years Cochise 130's (orange shell with blue buckles.) Are these having the same problem?
.[sanhedrin].Have you seen any issues with the new QST boots from Salomon (particularly the pro 120)? I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on them. Thanks.
.[sanhedrin].With the new integration of the tongue with the liner have you seen anyone swap it out in favor of an Intuition?
safarisamNot yet! The boot is a 4 piece design, with walk mode so wrap liners aren't favored. You'd need to put a lace up or your style in it.
.MASSHOLE.I wish intuition made a wrap-style liner that worked well with a walkmode. Apparently the new Dalbello AT boot (believe the Carbon version) has one?
safarisamThe lupo series has a wrap liner.
.MASSHOLE.I heard somewhere (could be wrong) that the wrap liner in the Lupo TI is made in such a manner that it works well with a walkmode and differs from the normal warp liner. Is that right?
safarisamI've never heard that? The Lupo walk mode isn;t a true tour walk mode though- it lets you walk but isn't meant for long tours.
safarisamI've never heard that? The Lupo walk mode isn;t a true tour walk mode though- it lets you walk but isn't meant for long tours.
cydwhitCan we please just come up with a new name for this sort of "walk" mode?
Personally I prefer K2's phrasing: "Apres Mode"
And really interesting to hear Sammi, thanks for posting. I'm bugging our reviewers in these boots to keep an eye on that walk mode.
.[sanhedrin].At what ° ROM would you no longer consider it an apres ski? 40°= Walk ??
cydwhitPersonally I prefer K2's phrasing: "Apres Mode"
.[sanhedrin].At what ° ROM would you no longer consider it an apres ski? 40°= Walk ??
safarisamMy boot has 74* for example.
onenerdykidWhen talking about ROM, there are some important distinctions to make/be aware of.
1. does the mechanism actually lock the cuff and shell together, or does it merely prevent rearward cuff movement? Many alpine brand's boots function like this, and they ski poorly as a result. Definitely more of an "apres" mode.
2. most companies measure their total possible cuff ROM by forcing the cuff beyond any realistic or achievable position while actually touring. For example, some brands claim 40° but once you put a liner and leg in the boot you can barely get more than 20°. If any of you have tried on different models side-by-side, you'll know what I mean.
3. while total cuff ROM is cool to talk about, what's more important is the quality of that movement. A brand might legitimately offer 50° but if the cuff slides up and down a metal bar or if the cuff rivets are pressed together too tightly, then it will feel like garbage or at least robotic.
One of the goals of Backland was to make sure we addressed each of the above points. And make it fully serviceable & easily replaceable should anything go wrong.
safarisamI've never heard that? The Lupo walk mode isn;t a true tour walk mode though- it lets you walk but isn't meant for long tours.
kirbstopperThe carbon version of the lupo has a great walk mode without the tongue. It is very different to the alpine lupo. Even with the tongue still in it is a much better walk mode than the alpine lupo. It is most definitely a true tour walk mode. I have been using it for months now. It even has great ROM with a intuition power wrap.
kirbstopperThe carbon version of the lupo has a great walk mode without the tongue. It is very different to the alpine lupo. Even with the tongue still in it is a much better walk mode than the alpine lupo. It is most definitely a true tour walk mode. I have been using it for months now. It even has great ROM with a intuition power wrap.
safarisamThe carbon is a whole different beast. It's not very common in the US market (or at least where I am) I'm excited to see dalbellos changes at SIA. Hopefully the TI gets a little better.
CheddarJackBoth the carbons and SP/TIs have buckle extenders that let you buckle them super loose, which is close to being able to remove the tongue on the carbon and is certainly better than just unbuckling. Not sure what you mean by them being "very different"? Other than (easily) being able to remove the tongue, they're practically the same system if I'm not mistaken.
Source: I have the SPs and some friends have the carbons.
