Powder skis flat underfoot

chris.graves.756I'm looking for a little advice. I just got on some moment ghost chants, which are a true powder ski with a ton of rocker and flat underfoot. Coming from a camber ski I felt really out of control and was sliding around all over. On a powder day at vail, they floated really well in fresh snow, but they were horrible on anything else, despite the snow being soft all over. Its my backcountry set up but still, I wanna be able to control them on the in between stuff. Also, they also just got waxed. Is the wax gonna need to come off a bit or is this just cause of the flat underfoot? thinking about selling if that is the case. http://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/moment-ghost-chant-2012.aspx

That ski is completely designed for powder and is going to be surfy. It's always going to pivot with the slightest weight transfer. Being 124 underfoot.. finding an angle is going to be hard work.

its not the skis so much as it is the person driving...Continue to build ski skills and you'll have WAY more control over any shape of ski.

chris.graves.756I'm looking for a little advice. I just got on some moment ghost chants, which are a true powder ski with a ton of rocker and flat underfoot. Coming from a camber ski I felt really out of control and was sliding around all over. On a powder day at vail, they floated really well in fresh snow, but they were horrible on anything else, despite the snow being soft all over. Its my backcountry set up but still, I wanna be able to control them on the in between stuff. Also, they also just got waxed. Is the wax gonna need to come off a bit or is this just cause of the flat underfoot? thinking about selling if that is the case. http://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/moment-ghost-chant-2012.aspx

Maybe you should learn to actually ski. You know those metal things? They are called edges. Learn to engage them.

As was already stated, those are obviously going to be best suited for the deep days. If you are really looking to make it your everyday ski or your "one ski quiver", I would probably say you should look for something else.

If it is just going to be your backcountry ski, and you have something else to ride all the other days, youre going to have a big smile on your face coming down after those climbs.

thanks chodo. as for a few of you other guys...fuck off. Ive used these once, so it will just take some time to get used to. I know how to ski and grab an edge. Hope you feel better about yourself!

I went through this when I first got on my Hellbents, the reality is in some conditions it's just going to be hard to grip and carve a turn. But in packed powder or slush you should be able to carve it up with confidence. The main thing to get used to is being patient with the minimal amount of sidecut, don't try to over power the ski, and learn to embrace the slarve. Skidding a turn is something to learn to use your advantage, and if you can't get any edge grip in icy conditions that's pretty much your only option

chris.graves.756thanks chodo. as for a few of you other guys...fuck off. Ive used these once, so it will just take some time to get used to. I know how to ski and grab an edge. Hope you feel better about yourself!

Hey, I have very similar skis to this (Icelantics Gypsys) and they do admittedly take some getting used too. The flat underfoot is made specifically for pivoting in the trees on these types of skis and definitely takes some getting used too. I'd recommend taking them out on a groomer day (I know, sounds stupid but hear me out). By taking them out on groomers, you get a better feel for that edge to edge transfer and become more aquitted to the radius and trunability of the ski. My gypsys were shit on me at first. I hated riding them in anything but powder. One day I took them up expecting a powder day and it turned out to be bluebird groomers with no fresh snow. I after two groomer laps, the 125 waisted rocker/flat/rocker skis became my favorite skis I've ever ridden. Their sidecut and profile allows the underfoot to engage before the tip and tail does allowing for crazy good carving on hardpack. Now a year after buying them, those baby's are my daily skis and I will probs ride them till they die. I have pics in my old threads when I tried to sell them ( bad desciscion on my part) if you want to check them out. If you really want to sell those ghost chants too, I may take them off your hands haha.

Tl;dr - take them out on groomers, get a feel for them, makes everything so much better.

ZypherHey, I have very similar skis to this (Icelantics Gypsys) and they do admittedly take some getting used too. The flat underfoot is made specifically for pivoting in the trees on these types of skis and definitely takes some getting used too. I'd recommend taking them out on a groomer day (I know, sounds stupid but hear me out). By taking them out on groomers, you get a better feel for that edge to edge transfer and become more aquitted to the radius and trunability of the ski. My gypsys were shit on me at first. I hated riding them in anything but powder. One day I took them up expecting a powder day and it turned out to be bluebird groomers with no fresh snow. I after two groomer laps, the 125 waisted rocker/flat/rocker skis became my favorite skis I've ever ridden. Their sidecut and profile allows the underfoot to engage before the tip and tail does allowing for crazy good carving on hardpack. Now a year after buying them, those baby's are my daily skis and I will probs ride them till they die. I have pics in my old threads when I tried to sell them ( bad desciscion on my part) if you want to check them out. If you really want to sell those ghost chants too, I may take them off your hands haha.

Tl;dr - take them out on groomers, get a feel for them, makes everything so much better.

yea man, I dig em now haha. It was just that one day. Who knows.