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amplitude and X games judges

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404404
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They for some reson they think it is eveything. Yes i also like seeing some one boost 20ft but why bother to learn anything new if that is the only think that wins.
Feb 2 2005 4:36PM
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lanks
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its funny how they said that this year will be all about refinement, whereas last year was pure amplitude. they went back on their word.

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Feb 2 2005 4:37PM
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jflo453
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well said ^^ thats all the freaking announcers would say. When tanner threw the 10 in his last run, id say it was pretty flawless for a 1080 in a slow/sketchy pipe, and they said it was 'good, but lacked AMPLITUDE!!!!' how could he get any of this amplitude at the bottom of his run, no1 was boosting higher than 10 feet out on the last hit...such crap
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Feb 2 2005 4:45PM
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kendrick
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which run was more X-citing?

THE DUMONT'S

1/3 higher = owning the competition
Feb 2 2005 4:47PM
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404404
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ok well lets all learn 4 pipe airs and then learn to boost on them, fuck other tricks.
Feb 2 2005 4:49PM
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madtrix720
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i agree with misty7. amplitude is great but i dont think that it should be such a deciding factor in comps. it is a big part of the scoring at the x games. prolly to big
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Feb 2 2005 4:50PM
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kendrick
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guys, simon's run had a much bigger 'wow factor'. People outside the sport can't tell the difference between the 7's, 9's and 10's. They can tell when someone is boosting 1/3 higher than everyone else. If boosting is so easy, then we'll see you there boosting next year, no? Please remember the best ski pipe run in history, CR's qualifying run in '03 X-Games. He schooled the competition with his 18'-22' corked 900. Not one skier has matched that run since. Plus, if you just go huge, someone will go huge and do a trick, or a bigger trick. It's called progression. The people need to see amplitude, so give it to them and you will do well.
Feb 2 2005 4:57PM
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jflo453
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Noone said boosting out 20 feet was easy and Dumont definatly deserves respect for doing so. But Boosting out 20 feet should not be the sole factor that determines who wins x gold. Smooth 1080s and double grabs arent easy either and for some reason they dont carry the same weight in x games comps as AMPLITUDE!!! And yes, boosting out 20 feet does have more wow factor!!!! and it does impress the ignorant crowd more, but the crowd and the 10 year old kid watching at home with his dad dont judge the comp. I know there were some respected guys on the judging panel but i say they did a pretty terrible job. All i can say in their favor is they know how to tell who got higher out of the pipe. but that shouldnt be the sole factor on which comps are judged. Im sure theres some idiot out there who knows how to bomb into a park, cut every1 off, run himself into the side of the pipe, and shoot out 30 feet, but that doesnt mean he deserves X gold, theres alot more to skiing than AMPLITUDE!!!
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Feb 2 2005 5:06PM
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skier_boy26
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i missed watching it last night, apparently they didnt broadcast much of it. but i just watched the videos, and my god, jon was unbelievably smooth and tech. tanner did better than dumont. it really pissed me off watching the video clips, jon was throwing the smoothest run, just spinning every wall, and the only damn thing they monetioned was amplitude. dont get me wrong, boosting high is awesome, but it really seemed that was the only basis. it was very annoying and infuriating
Feb 2 2005 6:01PM
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Mahre
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x games is nothing more than a reality tv show


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Feb 2 2005 6:05PM
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4frntSkier
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it still woulda been sick to see turpin with a switch run

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Feb 2 2005 6:06PM
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skier_boy26
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andy has a point
Feb 2 2005 6:08PM
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aclsarescary
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I think Jon does well because he he gets pretty good amplitude but on top of that, he travels much farther down the pipe, but that seems to get missed.









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Feb 2 2005 6:12PM
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kendrick
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^wouldn't you want to go less far down the pipe? that way you could get more hits in your run. I think you only want to go far down the pipe to accentuate a trick that is already boosted vertically
Feb 2 2005 6:21PM
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jumpman
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I think that Jon does well, but never wins, because he makes hard tricks look so easy. It's like because he doesn't struggle through a trick, the judges think the difficulty must be lower. Just my $.02
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Feb 2 2005 6:28PM
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CharlesB.
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^^I may be wrong, but I think the fact that he's Euro affects him a lot more than the fact he's smooth. It's not ''good'' for ESPN to have someone from outside the United States to win.


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Feb 2 2005 6:34PM
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ski8990
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amplitude was used about 30 times per run. whether it was saying 'Oh look at the amplitude!' or 'He's lackin a little in the amplitude department.' there was always amplitude on the announcers and judges minds.



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Feb 2 2005 6:36PM
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kendrick
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ahem.. anti autti
Feb 2 2005 6:36PM
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CharlesB.
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^^yeah but that's like candide 2 years ago, he was way better than anyone else. It's not good for them to have a Euro on the podium, but it ain't better to have their comps look biaised.


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Feb 2 2005 6:40PM
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ghudk2
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Andy said is right. He would know...





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Feb 2 2005 6:41PM
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404404
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kendrick, so are we now skiing to impress the masses?
Feb 2 2005 6:43PM
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jtski
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andy is very right.



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Feb 2 2005 6:56PM
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SmoKinSkier
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NO we are not skiing to impress the masses but Espn is broadcasting to. So sure did they judge it by the wow factor absolutely just like in Slopestyle with the one footed grind sounds harder than 450 on to the public. But its the X games it what i expect it better change in other comps!




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Feb 2 2005 7:01PM
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ski8990
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Gagnier didnt win cause he did a 1 footer. He won because he threw down the best run.



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Feb 2 2005 7:05PM
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BillyMFBadass
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how in the hell is pipe skiing supposed to get in the olympics when the only thing that decides the winner is who can boost the highest? there needs to be more. technically diffuclty and steeze(not olympic term). just like gymnastics. its judged all aspects off the routine i.e. technical difficlty, amplitude, ease, and a whole bunch of other shit im sure. but u get the point




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Feb 2 2005 7:11PM
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mac
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Dumont only did 2 grabs, all with the same hand. I rest my case.

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Feb 2 2005 7:15PM
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mac
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mutes and indys

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Feb 2 2005 7:15PM
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kendrick
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sure the technical aspect needs to improve before whistler and it will, but so does the amplitude.

if x-games are the superbowl of halfpipe skiing, and x-games are a made-for-tv event, then you play by their rules. Go big or go home. It's the superbowl, fuckin' send it!
Feb 2 2005 7:15PM
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kendrick
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figure skaters pull 1080's
Feb 2 2005 7:17PM
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BillyMFBadass
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have u ever tryed figure skating? or even ice skating? thats some tough shit




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Feb 2 2005 7:20PM
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bigkstylie
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I agree with Jflo... Tanner's run was SO much smoother... the tricks he did were so much smoother and took a lot more practice than Dumont's 22 foot air. I am not gonna lie, that air was impressive, but that was the only thing remarkable about his runs. Tanner had him snowed in the style/difficulty category. I was shocked about how crappy the judging was. Josh Loubeck and Shane Szocs were head judges, I think.
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Feb 2 2005 7:22PM
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StinkCunt
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Kendrik, your mom twirls 1080's around my cock faggot.
Feb 2 2005 7:27PM
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kendrick
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^why so angry, stinkcunt?

Feb 2 2005 7:28PM
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Kasanovah
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should have been:
dumont
olsson
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Dumont deserved to win cause thats the nature of the X, go big or go home, and skiing needs that look (go huge and balls out, over make it look pretty)

Jonny O deserved second because his runs were untouchable so far as buttery smoothness. I mean all four spin directions in a row, flawlessly, and his last hits were no jokes either.

Tanner deserved a solid third, yes, he had the nuttiest tricks, but on his best run all his tricks were spun on the right wall only, not very progressive in comparison to Olssons perfection or Dumont's balls.

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Feb 2 2005 7:35PM
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StinkCunt
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she gave sub-par head afterward.. thats why.
Feb 2 2005 7:40PM
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StinkCunt
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and you icon leads me to belive your a kitten molester. leave them alone needle dick
Feb 2 2005 7:42PM
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klimp
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it wasnt as interesting this year because after seeing someones first hit you already knew what place they got, simon might of well have taken that first hit then straight aired the rest.
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Feb 2 2005 7:50PM
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404404
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'one footed grind sounds harder than 450 on to the public'

450 isnt insanely hard, i would have rather done 450s on then then try a sw 270 on to that.

Feb 2 2005 8:30PM
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switch_9
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one footers rnt that hard, on boxes anyway.



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Feb 2 2005 8:32PM
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pierceme
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im sick of all this 'tanner got robbed shit' he was 1 point or so under simon. its not like he got a bad score. and all i hear is how tanner got robbed, i hear almost nothing about dan marion. he scored like an 84, when his first hit was a flat 5(not a corked 5) at 18 feet out, and he threw in a 1080 at the bottom. he got 5th place god damnit. now thats getting robbed.







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Feb 2 2005 8:37PM
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J.D.
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^I'm right with you on Marion... between Tanner, Jon, and Marion, it was hard to tell who really had the best run. I'm gonna have to go with Jon, but I can see the other two being argued. I've now watched each run 10 times, and I'm convinced that Dumont was 3rd place at BEST.

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Feb 2 2005 8:40PM
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CharlesB.
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I think CR got robbed pretty bad also. His cork 9 was his highest air, and it wasn't even on his first hit.


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Feb 2 2005 9:29PM
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jflo453
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x games is pissing me off
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Feb 2 2005 9:39PM
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