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Looking for a new all mountain twin

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SpliffsOnLifts
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I'm in the market for a new all mountain twin tip. I want something that I can take to the park, but I probably spend 60% of my time skiing the rest of the mountain. I'm looking for a ski that's super playful but will still hold up without chatter when I'm bombing groomers. I love to jib all over the mountain and find natural jumps but still tear it up in the glades and such. Excluding park I'm an expert skier who likes to ski very aggressively.
I currently ride Line Chronics and love how much fun they are but I'd like something a little wider and more durable. Some of the models I've been looking at are J Skis Allplay, ON3P Kartel 98, Faction CT 2.0, and 4FRNT Vandall but I'm really open to anything.
I'm 6'3 so I'm gonna be riding something in the 180+ range but I only weigh 165. I also live on the East Coast but go out west at least once a year.
Any thoughts or comments are much appreciated
Dec 8 2016 2:59PM
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SofaKingSick
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id say something with a 90something waist and some decent stiffness would be great. my first recommendation would be the armada ARVti
Dec 8 2016 4:32PM
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cozzey
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I currently have the blizzard peacemakers, great ski and they get through crud, but that is in Colorado and not the east coast so much different. Hart skis is currently having a huge blowout sale, http://www.hartskis.com/closeout.html and i have a pair of their hart ones, outbacks, and attacks, they all charge hard but the outback isnt a twin. Id recommend the ones.
Dec 9 2016 2:45PM
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yzzid
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Kartel 108
Dec 10 2016 1:25AM
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SpliffsOnLifts
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yzzidKartel 108


Would the 108 be straight for park? I feel like that's kinda wide. Also I'm mostly east coast so I'm not gonna be dealing with too much powder which is why I was looking at the 98 instead
Dec 10 2016 3:23PM
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yzzid
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Ohh ok, get the 98 for sure
Dec 10 2016 6:37PM
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thechaoticpanda
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SpliffsOnLiftsI'm in the market for a new all mountain twin tip. I want something that I can take to the park, but I probably spend 60% of my time skiing the rest of the mountain. I'm looking for a ski that's super playful but will still hold up without chatter when I'm bombing groomers. I love to jib all over the mountain and find natural jumps but still tear it up in the glades and such. Excluding park I'm an expert skier who likes to ski very aggressively.
I currently ride Line Chronics and love how much fun they are but I'd like something a little wider and more durable. Some of the models I've been looking at are J Skis Allplay, ON3P Kartel 98, Faction CT 2.0, and 4FRNT Vandall but I'm really open to anything.
I'm 6'3 so I'm gonna be riding something in the 180+ range but I only weigh 165. I also live on the East Coast but go out west at least once a year.
Any thoughts or comments are much appreciated

Hello , you should consider the Line blend skis . The 2017 are pretty awesome, they come in 185 cm and a 100 mm on the waist , light skis and full of features . The description of the skis starts with "for the jib-minded all mountain skier " ...
If you want something cheaper, their is the supernatural 100 skis .
Dec 11 2016 2:07AM
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Outoftowner
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Rocker 2 100s?
Dec 11 2016 8:58PM
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Young_patty
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I would definitely recommend the moment pb&j( 101 underfoot) Or the meridian (105 underfoot), theres also icelantic nomads(95,105 underfoot) or if you're balling on a budget you can get a pair of surface odissy's for $300 (96 underfoot). I've ridden pb&j's and the odyssey's and loved both of them so if you have any questions just ask. I haven't heard anything bad about Nomads or meridians (nomads being Icelandic are gonna be bomb proof). Hope this helps.
Dec 13 2016 3:13PM
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SpliffsOnLifts
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Young_pattyI would definitely recommend the moment pb&j( 101 underfoot)

I looked at the PB&J since creating this thread and it seems like a dope all mountain ski. From the research I did it seems like it can hold up on anything you throw at it. 2 quick questions:
How does it hold up in the park? A few reviews I read said that this was the one area that it was a little lackluster, but I also read some that said it was super fun and held up nicely in the park.
Whats the stiffness like? Seems like a super soft and buttery ski with so much rocker. Since I'm primarily skiing the East I'm just a little concerned about how the tail rocker will affect skiing on ice and shit. Does the rocker/flex create any chatter when you hit high speeds?
Thanks for the help
Dec 13 2016 3:51PM
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Young_patty
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SpliffsOnLiftsI looked at the PB&J since creating this thread and it seems like a dope all mountain ski. From the research I did it seems like it can hold up on anything you throw at it. 2 quick questions:
How does it hold up in the park? A few reviews I read said that this was the one area that it was a little lackluster, but I also read some that said it was super fun and held up nicely in the park.
Whats the stiffness like? Seems like a super soft and buttery ski with so much rocker. Since I'm primarily skiing the East I'm just a little concerned about how the tail rocker will affect skiing on ice and shit. Does the rocker/flex create any chatter when you hit high speeds?
Thanks for the help


For the park they holdup fine, I skied mine for 2 seasons
(4-6 days a week, every week) in the abusive midwest parks consisting mostly of rails and they held up fine, Plus now they make them with semi cap construction for increased durability . In terms of stiffness they are kind of in the middle, Soft enough that I could throw some butters around but stiff enough that I could rip around and charge hard.
Dec 13 2016 4:02PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Peacemaker or whatever it's little brother is
Dec 13 2016 4:04PM
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Icecoasting
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if u dont need a very wide ski for powder i would say line chronic if u need wider look at line blends or J skis ever since i first rode a pair of lines i loved them J is the founder of line btw
Dec 15 2016 10:54PM
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skidemon22
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OutoftownerRocker 2 100s?


I have these, they are pretty sweet... But of would have to get next year's as it is being dropped from salomons line.. :(
Dec 17 2016 3:14AM
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Dddsz
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SpliffsOnLiftsWould the 108 be straight for park? I feel like that's kinda wide. Also I'm mostly east coast so I'm not gonna be dealing with too much powder which is why I was looking at the 98 instead


Yeah the 108 is a lot to throw around on man-made jumps. It took me awhile to get used to them.
Dec 17 2016 7:21AM
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Ekis
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K2 poachers rip all around in my experience and they have fat edges and base so they should be able to take some serious damage before breakin. Völkl revolt is also a nice all mountain ski, maybe a bit more flexible in the tip and tail than poacher
Dec 17 2016 4:38PM
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spacelunch
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4frnt cody, they don't make them anymore tho
Dec 18 2016 2:46PM
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