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Indecision Please Help: K2 Pettitior vs Armada JJ 2.0

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smickin28
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In search of a great pow ski for this season. I use Faction 2.0's for pretty much everything besides pow, but I'm totally torn on what 115+cm underfoot pow ski to get. I've heard solid things about both the Pettitor and the JJ 2.0 but my main concern is the weight difference between the two, with the Pettitor being heavier. Can anyone give some advice on which ski would be a better on a solid pow day with a freestyle/buttery mindset? Would appreciate any help because I cant make the damn decision and both skis are on sale online for the 2016 models. Obviously seeing Pettit rip his pro model makes them look unreal but I'd love some honest feedback.
Dec 5 2016 6:24PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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The JJ's are fairly lightweight for their girth. But the new Zero JJ's are just featherweights. I would be looking into those.
Dec 5 2016 6:58PM
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soupcan
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I really like my petitors they are pretty stable at speed and hold an edge well enough for what they are. Definitely stiff enough underfoot to stomp some bigger lands but the tips are much softer for butters etc. Can't speak on the jj 2.0 so I can't really compare only can tell you about the petitors.
Dec 5 2016 10:26PM
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animator
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smckean28In search of a great pow ski for this season. I use Faction 2.0's for pretty much everything besides pow, but I'm totally torn on what 115+cm underfoot pow ski to get. I've heard solid things about both the Pettitor and the JJ 2.0 but my main concern is the weight difference between the two, with the Pettitor being heavier. Can anyone give some advice on which ski would be a better on a solid pow day with a freestyle/buttery mindset? Would appreciate any help because I cant make the damn decision and both skis are on sale online for the 2016 models. Obviously seeing Pettit rip his pro model makes them look unreal but I'd love some honest feedback.

I own the pettitors in 179 and theyre super fun. I mounted mine -2 so the centered mount makes the skis feel lighter in the air. Super super fun skis, if youre more of a playful/buttery skier. I have a friend who is a directional skier and he doesnt like them as they arent very stiff which means their stability at super high speeds is questionable. If you like to butter around and take amore freestyle approach theyre a really fun ski and I tended to forget about their weight when I was skiing them. Another option is the black crows Anima, check out my review for more detail
Dec 7 2016 7:58AM
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Kbob94
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I have the jj zeros and I love them to death. They're so damn light it's crazy and yet they still perform so awesome. I'd definitely recommend them.
Dec 7 2016 8:15AM
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POWDER.RANGER
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bought some jj2's after i skied out my og jj's from 2011. love these skis to death, light enough to whip a turn in the tightest of trees, stiff enough to devour the cruddy remains of 2 pm on a powder day. the
Dec 7 2016 8:48PM
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-wakes-
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The JJs are great in fresh snow but lack crud performance and are not a charger by any means. I love mine in 6+ inches of fresh, and they practically pivot in powder. I think it depends on what type of terrain you are skiing. If you ride lots of tight trees the JJ's are great. If it is more wide open terrain and you like to nuke down every run you might consider a different ski. I ski Schweitzer/brundage for reference.
Dec 7 2016 10:55PM
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Zypher
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Kbob94I have the jj zeros and I love them to death. They're so damn light it's crazy and yet they still perform so awesome. I'd definitely recommend them.


This, I love my JJ Zeros and had the chance to take them out on an 11+ inch day last weekend and they were amazing. Mounted them at recommended and they were super floaty and surfy. Also with Tyrolia Attack 13s, they pretty much weight nothing. I can also vouch that these skis fucking rip ice and hardpack. The day before we got dumped on it was East Coast conditions and the JJ's never faltered even on sheets of ice. They are a bit stiffer than the Petitors but still butterable with just a bit more forward pressure. My buddy has petitors and once he was on my JJs for a run, he was sold on them. NOTE: this is experience on the JJ 2.0 Zeros, not the JJ 2.0s
Dec 8 2016 11:48AM
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thechaoticpanda
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smckean28In search of a great pow ski for this season. I use Faction 2.0's for pretty much everything besides pow, but I'm totally torn on what 115+cm underfoot pow ski to get. I've heard solid things about both the Pettitor and the JJ 2.0 but my main concern is the weight difference between the two, with the Pettitor being heavier. Can anyone give some advice on which ski would be a better on a solid pow day with a freestyle/buttery mindset? Would appreciate any help because I cant make the damn decision and both skis are on sale online for the 2016 models. Obviously seeing Pettit rip his pro model makes them look unreal but I'd love some honest feedback.


Hello , i fell through the same loop hole and ended buying the Atomic Chris Bent Chentlar 2016 skis . Playful than both skis . The thing about the armada jj 2.0 is that they are designated for deep powder use , which sucks in mid to dry days . Now the pettitor's are awesome (some people shred the park with them !!! Carzy huh ? ) but they are not as stable. So I went with the atomics that is best of both worlds, playful , stables, buttery skis and they look awesome.
Let's see if someone backs me in on this .
Hope I've helped :)
Dec 8 2016 12:10PM
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cozyco
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Well I got to know both skis pretty well. 40+ days on 12/13 JJs before I wrecked them, 60+ days on my Pettitors, still going strong.

Both are fun skis, definitely not made for charging serious terrain. True noodles. Imo the tiny sidcut of under 25m makes the skis feel really jittery and unstable when you re going fast. (For reference, I am 6"2 and 180lb with a weakness for going big and fast) In combination with the soft tail wheeling out big cliffs is daily routine. If you re skiing steep terrain, without any or almost no glades I d say get something beefy and stable.

The Pettitor are actually heavy as fuck, but the (AK) JJs arent light either.

If you ski often in glades, like playful skis and are throwing bigger tricks than 5s and ski lot of switch, both will suit your needs.

Pettit can rip on Pettitors pretty hard cause he s 5"8 and 145lb. This with 189 Pettitors... here you go.
Dec 9 2016 6:20AM
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scratchskier321
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_faaaWell I got to know both skis pretty well. 40+ days on 12/13 JJs before I wrecked them, 60+ days on my Pettitors, still going strong.

Both are fun skis, definitely not made for charging serious terrain. True noodles. Imo the tiny sidcut of under 25m makes the skis feel really jittery and unstable when you re going fast. (For reference, I am 6"2 and 180lb with a weakness for going big and fast) In combination with the soft tail wheeling out big cliffs is daily routine. If you re skiing steep terrain, without any or almost no glades I d say get something beefy and stable.

The Pettitor are actually heavy as fuck, but the (AK) JJs arent light either.

If you ski often in glades, like playful skis and are throwing bigger tricks than 5s and ski lot of switch, both will suit your needs.

Pettit can rip on Pettitors pretty hard cause he s 5"8 and 145lb. This with 189 Pettitors... here you go.


what ski do you like? if not jj or pettitor?
Dec 11 2016 2:20AM
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cozyco
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scratchskier321what ski do you like? if not jj or pettitor?


Moment Governor, Movement Super Turbo, 4FRNT Renegade. Solid skis to charge hard in softer snow. When I m skiing chutes or technical terrain some noodles underfoot are quiet counterproductive ;)
Dec 11 2016 5:57AM
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scratchskier321
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_faaaMoment Governor, Movement Super Turbo, 4FRNT Renegade. Solid skis to charge hard in softer snow. When I m skiing chutes or technical terrain some noodles underfoot are quiet counterproductive ;)


thoughts on rossi black ops?
Dec 12 2016 12:12AM
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cozyco
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scratchskier321thoughts on rossi black ops?


Sorry. I havent ridden this ski and it wont be avaiable in Europe. Seems like a sort of kartel 116. My theory:
The blackops is supposed to be an pricey blend of a playful powder jib ski like Pettitor or Magic J with a stiffer "charger" like Squad 7.
Nothing I d like ride. My trick bag is too small for riding sth like that haha. Everything up to 5s, corks, rodeos can be done with directional chargers like Governor, Wrenegade and so on. Watch Ski movie I- III for reference. So I guess its made for the peeps who wanna go fast and throw big tricks. Crazy expensive though.

I am sure someone else has a better input on this ski than me.
Dec 12 2016 8:06AM
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Session
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thechaoticpandaHello , i fell through the same loop hole and ended buying the Atomic Chris Bent Chentlar 2016 skis . Playful than both skis . The thing about the armada jj 2.0 is that they are designated for deep powder use , which sucks in mid to dry days . Now the pettitor's are awesome (some people shred the park with them !!! Carzy huh ? ) but they are not as stable. So I went with the atomics that is best of both worlds, playful , stables, buttery skis and they look awesome.
Let's see if someone backs me in on this .
Hope I've helped :)


You wanted less powder specific, so you bought a wider ski? You are a special kind of stupid.
Dec 12 2016 10:47AM
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thechaoticpanda
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SessionYou wanted less powder specific, so you bought a wider ski? You are a special kind of stupid.


Wider ski ? You know that the jj's also come in 120 mm on the waist ? Or maybe you are too short to check out the taller skis ? So do not go calling people stupid you egoistic midget . And read , read a lot !
Dec 12 2016 11:42AM
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Session
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thechaoticpandaWider ski ? You know that the jj's also come in 120 mm on the waist ? Or maybe you are too short to check out the taller skis ? So do not go calling people stupid you egoistic midget . And read , read a lot !


So we are talking the 195 2.0 vs the 192 Bent Chetler (that I have owned). They are so similar in almost every aspect. Even construction as they are both built by Atomic. But your notion that the 2.0 is somehow deep pow specific whereas the Bent Chetler is more versatile one of the dumber things I have reads on these forums.
Dec 12 2016 12:14PM
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thechaoticpanda
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SessionSo we are talking the 195 2.0 vs the 192 Bent Chetler (that I have owned). They are so similar in almost every aspect. Even construction as they are both built by Atomic. But your notion that the 2.0 is somehow deep pow specific whereas the Bent Chetler is more versatile one of the dumber things I have reads on these forums.

Well I played with both , I think the atomic are more versatile , that's my opinion. You don't like it , skip it , or go watch an episode of teletubbies , it suits your ego .
Dec 12 2016 1:25PM
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gapersarefriends
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I ride ak jj's every day, 6'2 190 lbs, and ive ridden pettitors a few times. Pettitors were on the more playful side for sure, way poppier in the tails but got way more squirrely at higher speeds if that helps
Dec 12 2016 4:44PM
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saskskier
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When the time comes for me to replace my New Life's (which are still going strong), I'll probably end up getting the Balance (which replaced the New Life) or something a touch narrower, like the Kartel 116. Honestly though, the New Life/Balance's are incredible.

- Nice and stiff (for blasting through sub-par conditions. Also hold an edge super well and are super stable, but nice and poppy)
- Tons of rocker (easy to butter, fun to mess around on)
- Lighter than expected (I've got 194's and always expect them to weigh more than they do when I pick them up)
- Bombproof (I've had mine for 4-5 years now?)
- Cheap ($319 on the Surface site right now)
- I've never seen a ski throw up rooster tails as big as the New Lifes (not practical, but pretty cool)

If you are looking for a dedicated pow ski, tough to go wrong with these.
Dec 12 2016 7:47PM
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