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I just got gps goggles on sale and they are kind of fun for early season. I know my tracks has been around for a while. So for those of you that have used anything to verify speed what sort of heat have you thrown down. Not much open at copper yet but today I got 50.
Ski tracks is the best, one of my freinds a former high school racer went 76mph on a long and somewhat steep green run. The trail was River Run in Sun Valley.
.MASSHOLE.To average 55+? Yes, yes you do to be on skis that are that size. Can you hit greater than that speed? Sure, but it goes beyond just straight-lining as I have said. But a ski that is sub-190, especially a non-race ski, will make that speed unlikely as the actions of it will cause almost all people to pull up. Skis get squirrel-y, the tips ripple, edges catch, etc.
Are we talking speed gun clocked? Because that is the only reliable measurement there is. And no one I've seen ever has a speed gun on a hill outside of DHs or SGs.
And no, most skiers are not better than the women on the WC tour who ski DH and SG. Little Lara Gut, all 5 feet 4 inches and 128 pounds, could probably beat 99.9% of the skiers on this forum in a race, especially in a speed event. hell even a straight line because she knows HOW to get that fast. It isn't just point and shoot, at that speed every little thing to reduce drag matters. Why else would they use wind tunnels to perfect tuck positioning, speed suit drag, helmet drag, etc.?
It is amazing how many people here think they've hit 60+. The wind, the way your skis act, the way every little fucking bump is magnified when you hit it, how you have to position your body to reduce drag, etc. it isn't something you just go out and do on any old skis on any old hill.
You don't run a flat base at that speed, you don't have the ideal cant, etc. and you can fuck yourself badly if your ski twitches the wrong way. Why do you think SG and DH skis are so long and stiff? It isn't just to keep the ski from washing out on the turns, it is to keep them stable on the flats.
Someone actually speed gunned me and it said I hit 60. Shit was so scary
AgitatedHiatusSomeone actually speed gunned me and it said I hit 60. Shit was so scary
Right? So many people don't understand how fast that actually is.
Once you've legitimately been clocked at those speeds you'll understand what it is like. People should try sticking their heads out the window of a car going 60--70 MPH and then tell me they've gone that fast before on skis.
.MASSHOLE.Right? So many people don't understand how fast that actually is.
Once you've legitimately been clocked at those speeds you'll understand what it is like. People should try sticking their heads out the window of a car going 60--70 MPH and then tell me they've gone that fast before on skis.
I understand that an app will tell you that you're going 70-80 but its not true, the phone isn't perfectly attached to you, margin of error, etc the only way to truly know your speed is to be clocked by a radar gun.
That being said, i can say that i've gone very, very fast on skis, plenty of people have, but it's definitely more in the realm of 60-70 mph. Id love to grab some 200s, hit a closed course and see what I could hit, but that's an opportunity i have yet to been presented with.
eheathI understand that an app will tell you that you're going 70-80 but its not true, the phone isn't perfectly attached to you, margin of error, etc the only way to truly know your speed is to be clocked by a radar gun.
That being said, i can say that i've gone very, very fast on skis, plenty of people have, but it's definitely more in the realm of 60-70 mph. Id love to grab some 200s, hit a closed course and see what I could hit, but that's an opportunity i have yet to been presented with.
You're EHEATH lets make it happen haha id sign a waiver strap on my ol 225's an party haha
As has been said this probably isn't accurate but it certainly didn't feel slow. On Volkl Wall 185s so pretty stiff but nothing like race skis. Sent it straight down an empty red in Val Thorens, France. I've never felt closer to death, it was genuinely terrifying, incredible adrenaline rush though.
eheathI understand that an app will tell you that you're going 70-80 but its not true, the phone isn't perfectly attached to you, margin of error, etc the only way to truly know your speed is to be clocked by a radar gun.
That being said, i can say that I've gone very, very fast on skis, plenty of people have, but it's definitely more in the realm of 60-70 mph. Id love to grab some 200s, hit a closed course and see what I could hit, but that's an opportunity i have yet to been presented with.
I want to get my hands on a radar gun...
Come to Pebble Creek. There is a run that is great for hitting top speed and if you get there at opening on a weekday or Sunday you'll be the only one on the run.
And I am sure I didn't hit 96.6 on it, but we were cooking for sure.
.MASSHOLE.To average 55+? Yes, yes you do to be on skis that are that size. Can you hit greater than that speed? Sure, but it goes beyond just straight-lining as I have said. But a ski that is sub-190, especially a non-race ski, will make that speed unlikely as the actions of it will cause almost all people to pull up. Skis get squirrel-y, the tips ripple, edges catch, etc.
Are we talking speed gun clocked? Because that is the only reliable measurement there is. And no one I've seen ever has a speed gun on a hill outside of DHs or SGs.
And no, most skiers are not better than the women on the WC tour who ski DH and SG. Little Lara Gut, all 5 feet 4 inches and 128 pounds, could probably beat 99.9% of the skiers on this forum in a race, especially in a speed event. hell even a straight line because she knows HOW to get that fast. It isn't just point and shoot, at that speed every little thing to reduce drag matters. Why else would they use wind tunnels to perfect tuck positioning, speed suit drag, helmet drag, etc.?
It is amazing how many people here think they've hit 60+. The wind, the way your skis act, the way every little fucking bump is magnified when you hit it, how you have to position your body to reduce drag, etc. it isn't something you just go out and do on any old skis on any old hill.
You don't run a flat base at that speed, you don't have the ideal cant, etc. and you can fuck yourself badly if your ski twitches the wrong way. Why do you think SG and DH skis are so long and stiff? It isn't just to keep the ski from washing out on the turns, it is to keep them stable on the flats.
Yep I am talking speed clocked on the downhill run in Val-Thorens France. I learned to ski from the age of 2 (I'm now 30) with my mum and aunt, Swiss nationals (actually from the same town as Lara coincidentally as you picked her) who trained with the Olympic Downhill team for many years and are even at the ripe old age of 65+ probably better all mountain skiers than a lot of the riders on NS (obviously excluding park). Because of them I know how to go that fast, especially when I don't have to aim for gates or ride a certain line and just want to gun it hard. Also I didn't say most people, I said most of my riding friends. Not gonna argue that someone like Lara would demolish any of us through a set of gates though, that's a no brainer.
olicYep I am talking speed clocked on the downhill run in Val-Thorens France. I learned to ski from the age of 2 (I'm now 30) with my mum and aunt, Swiss nationals (actually from the same town as Lara coincidentally as you picked her) who trained with the Olympic Downhill team for many years and are even at the ripe old age of 65+ probably better all mountain skiers than a lot of the riders on NS (obviously excluding park). Because of them I know how to go that fast, especially when I don't have to aim for gates or ride a certain line and just want to gun it hard. Also I didn't say most people, I said most of my riding friends. Not gonna argue that someone like Lara would demolish any of us through a set of gates though, that's a no brainer.
Well the downhill run explains it. Not many hills in the US (or world) have the sustained pitch and openness of those runs. With a hill like that you can probably take a 175+ if you wanted to shit your pants to do it. But yes, you do have a ride "a line" depending where you start from. Those hills do turn naturally...
But getting above 60 on those skis in full clothes? Not likely. If you know speed like you say you do you know why a long and stiff ski is important. Same as a properly canted boot, flat base, proper edge angle, etc.
.MASSHOLE.Well the downhill run explains it. Not many hills in the US (or world) have the sustained pitch and openness of those runs. With a hill like that you can probably take a 175+ if you wanted to shit your pants to do it. But yes, you do have a ride "a line" depending where you start from. Those hills do turn naturally...
But getting above 60 on those skis in full clothes? Not likely. If you know speed like you say you do you know why a long and stiff ski is important. Same as a properly canted boot, flat base, proper edge angle, etc.
Oh yeah having the right terrain and conditions makes all the difference I doubt I could have done it under any other conditions. By line I meant as in having to ride around gates, obviously you have to read the natural terrain and follow the run with a solid line to get the most out of it.
To be honest I would never want to go above that speed or in fact near it again, it wasn't particularly fun, but it's not often you get to run speed traps so I went for it, wanted to say I'd been at UK motorway speeds on skis, ticked it off the bucket list and more than happy to leave it there.
straightened the pitch of river run yesterday at keystone with my buddys gps tracker, it hit 55 miles an hour on 182 90 underfoot center mounted park skis. It was terminal velocity because I was flatbased tucked straightening. l think with my 132 underfoot 196 pow skis down go devil i could hit 60+ and that is fast. But yah with a proper race suite and a nice big old 200cm long gs ski i think i could lay down some speed
I was clocked at 65 bombing one of the race hills around me. I believe it was around there as well since I've gone longboarding and was clocked around 35, which felt much much slower than when I skied this (but wayyyyyy sketchier. Im never doing that shit again).
I had Nordica Enforcers and that was possibly the only time Ive actually been afraid of going faster on a groomed trail. props to those skis though, virtually no chatter for how much ski wasn't touching the snow.
swisssteezeYou guys hitting 100mph seems ridiculous to me... I felt like I was going to die at 90km/h which was with a radar thingy.
the radar gun is likely accurate... the apps aren't. racers hit 100 on SOME courses in tight suits and cruise missile skis...no one in regular clothes and freeride skis has been close to being close to hitting 100 haha
-Shadow-The fastest I have recorded is 91 mph. I'm going to try to do 100 mph this winter.
Recorded on what? Unless you are a speed skier (not racer, but legit speed guy), there's no way you've done 90mph. 96mph is the fastest recorded speed in a dh race.
I've hit 67 MPH last season... never doing it again, at least with the skis I was on, frickin terrifying, skis never been vibrating so hard since it wasn't a smooth groomer. Funny to think I was technically speeding down a freeway though
RusticlesWasn't there a radar gun in teddy bear crisis when Jon and tanner were hitting chads gap? One shot showed tanner doing 55 switch? Maybe it was kph
MPH for sure. You cant be clearing a 130 ft gap at 35 MPH haha
RusticlesWasn't there a radar gun in teddy bear crisis when Jon and tanner were hitting chads gap? One shot showed tanner doing 55 switch? Maybe it was kph
Yea that was crazy. Most people here would poop themselves going 55 down that inrun forward, let alone switch then flying 100+feet through the air.
NS needs to have a park rat speed contest. Get a radar gun, go to hill with steep and straight run, watch baggy skiers actually going 50 when they think they went 80. Winner gets to put on speed suit and racing skis and wet themselves actually going 80.
VinnieFNS needs to have a park rat speed contest. Get a radar gun, go to hill with steep and straight run, watch baggy skiers actually going 50 when they think they went 80. Winner gets to put on speed suit and racing skis and wet themselves actually going 80.
VinnieFNS needs to have a park rat speed contest. Get a radar gun, go to hill with steep and straight run, watch baggy skiers actually going 50 when they think they went 80. Winner gets to put on speed suit and racing skis and wet themselves actually going 80.
From Google:
Terminal Velocity
Based on wind resistance, for example, the terminal velocity of a skydiver in a belly-to-earth (i.e., face down) free-fall position is about 195 km/h (122 mph or 54 m/s).
