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Does Binding position really make that big of a difference?

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DoledHex
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Lets say you get your skis mounted center, but do a lot of directional skiing. Will the mount affect your skiing noticeably?
Nov 16 2016 2:34PM
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SofaKingSick
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i mean, it makes a difference, especially depending where you mount in relation to a ski's sidecut, but it doesnt make that much of a difference and in 99% of cases you get used to it almost instantly. we as skiers have a severe case of overthink-the-hell-out-of-everything gear wise. we sit around worrying about differences of MILLIMETERS haha

people have been doing unbelievably sick stuff on way worse gear for decades-- almost every setup being used nowadays is really really good.

educate yourself, make a decision, and then erase it from your mind and have fun!
Nov 16 2016 2:42PM
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Pmoore
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A lot goes into binding position.The intended use of a ski and personal preference are the biggest two. Though some like digging deeper and looking at stiffness, sidecut, etc. For me I prioritize my personal style of skiing.

For example, if you buy a symmetrical ski, mount it center. Even if you haven't ridden at center before.

On the other hand if you get a pow jib ski that is recommend -2 to -4 then personal preference will be huge, I would mount that center still where as someone who skis differently then me could mount it at -4.
Nov 16 2016 2:47PM
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RousedWits
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I recommend mounting your bindings.






Hang Loose!
Nov 16 2016 2:54PM
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tomPietrowski
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it does have a pretty big effect on carving yes. When I test skis Ill have them with demo bindings so I can move mount points and test different things and it is quite striking how much centering a non symmetrical ski effects the carving performance. These days the recommended mount point is really going to be the best bet for skiing out of the park. Brands dont just come up with the mount point . The ski is designed to ski best in a certain way and unless you are using the ski 100% in the park center is not usually teh best spot. But thats not to say some wont enjoy it there is just that your not getting the best out of the ski. No centered skis still work fine in the park so unless you will be 100% park maybe look to mount closer to recommended.
Nov 16 2016 3:32PM
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Flowbear
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It definitely affects it a bit depending on the ski and design. But again as everyone has said it's up to your style and personnel preference. I come from a park background and always center mount my skis. That being said I usually mount my pow skis -2 because it allows for a little extra float plus it helps keep my tips up that slightest bit when landing in powder and I don't ride switch in powder nearly as often but when I do it still feels comfortable. Because of this I usually try to match the ski to my riding style which usually means that the recommended mount is exactly where I want it to be. If you have a racing background or mogul background then your preference will most likely be wildly different.
Nov 16 2016 3:50PM
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DoledHex
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tomPietrowskiit does have a pretty big effect on carving yes. When I test skis Ill have them with demo bindings so I can move mount points and test different things and it is quite striking how much centering a non symmetrical ski effects the carving performance. These days the recommended mount point is really going to be the best bet for skiing out of the park. Brands dont just come up with the mount point . The ski is designed to ski best in a certain way and unless you are using the ski 100% in the park center is not usually teh best spot. But thats not to say some wont enjoy it there is just that your not getting the best out of the ski. No centered skis still work fine in the park so unless you will be 100% park maybe look to mount closer to recommended.


New question. How hard is it to get a ski re-mounted lol?
Nov 16 2016 3:51PM
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jjdsteeze
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DoledHexNew question. How hard is it to get a ski re-mounted lol?


Walk in to a shop and ask them to remount it?
Nov 16 2016 3:56PM
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DoledHex
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jjdsteezeWalk in to a shop and ask them to remount it?


So the answer is no, not hard.
Nov 16 2016 3:59PM
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jjdsteeze
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DoledHexSo the answer is no, not hard.


yes, not hard, but also not recommended. unless the are really far off from where you wanted them mounted.
Nov 16 2016 4:04PM
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DoledHex
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jjdsteezeyes, not hard, but also not recommended. unless the are really far off from where you wanted them mounted.


Alright, thanks.
Nov 16 2016 4:09PM
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tomPietrowski
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DoledHexNew question. How hard is it to get a ski re-mounted lol?


Yeah its super easy to remount so long as you are just moving mount position rather then changing bindings and wanting to keep the same mount point. Wont really effect the ski other then lowering resale value slightly.

Your other option is to have freedom inserts fitted in the old holes and also the new mount you get. That way you can switch between a couple of differnt mounts if you want. More expensive but does give you options
Nov 16 2016 4:30PM
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DoledHex
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tomPietrowskiYeah its super easy to remount so long as you are just moving mount position rather then changing bindings and wanting to keep the same mount point. Wont really effect the ski other then lowering resale value slightly.

Your other option is to have freedom inserts fitted in the old holes and also the new mount you get. That way you can switch between a couple of differnt mounts if you want. More expensive but does give you options

I mounted my K2 Shreditors at center, but will be doing the majority of my skiing outside of the park. I don't have a lot of experience with mounting so I went with center. Should I bother re-mounting or just ride it out?
Nov 16 2016 4:35PM
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pajibber
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I wouldn't get them remounted until you've had a chance to ski them in different conditions and see how you like them. You want to keep remounts down to a minimum. It only takes a few runs to get used to center mount.

Center Mount Pros:
Learning how to ride switch is easier on center mounted skis. By riding switch I don't mean backwards ass out pizza, I mean linking turns. For jumps the swing weight feels much more balanced.

Center Mount Cons:
I find center mount really bugs me skiing bumps, tight trees, etc...I center mounted all my skis growing up, but as I got older and moved out of the park I found the bonus riding switch wasn't worth the extra tail for most of my skiing.
Nov 16 2016 5:07PM
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Casey
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DoledHexI mounted my K2 Shreditors at center, but will be doing the majority of my skiing outside of the park. I don't have a lot of experience with mounting so I went with center. Should I bother re-mounting or just ride it out?


I would leave it, my buddy has his pettitors mounted back for a touring and he's not that into it. The few times I skied the pettitors they were mounted pretty close to center I thought they were super fun
Nov 16 2016 11:47PM
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Deepskier
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Yes but some kids complain they cant do shit because they are -1 or some shit minor, dint be that kid. it makes a difference but in mm you wont notice much
Nov 17 2016 12:03AM
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tomPietrowski
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DoledHexI mounted my K2 Shreditors at center, but will be doing the majority of my skiing outside of the park. I don't have a lot of experience with mounting so I went with center. Should I bother re-mounting or just ride it out?


really its not a huge thing honestly. If you have skied for years and know how to lay down an edge you will notice it for sure but if you and newer, just ride those bad boys center. Center honestly is not the best the majority of the time so next time mount nearer to recommended but you already have them mounted so just rip them. You will enjoy them where they are and if you really do find you don't enjoy how the ski works for you, get them mounted back, but for now just keep them where they are
Nov 17 2016 5:10AM
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Emma_Watson
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yeah on spring break i only brought out my park skis, which were mounted center.

I could not keep up with my buddies who were factory mounted.
Nov 17 2016 6:09AM
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DoledHex
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tomPietrowskireally its not a huge thing honestly. If you have skied for years and know how to lay down an edge you will notice it for sure but if you and newer, just ride those bad boys center. Center honestly is not the best the majority of the time so next time mount nearer to recommended but you already have them mounted so just rip them. You will enjoy them where they are and if you really do find you don't enjoy how the ski works for you, get them mounted back, but for now just keep them where they are


I've been skiing a long time and am definitely a type 3 skier. I like to hit my turns really hard. Will remounting have negative effects on ski performance?
Nov 17 2016 4:24PM
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brotherdad
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I don't think it really makes a huge difference.

One of my skis I brought out to Hood for the summer snapped so I had to remount a spare I had. This spare had previously been mounted at center and the shop I took them to wouldn't mount them in the same holes so I had to move them to about 2 back.

So I rode on one centered ski and one 2cm back for the rest of the summer and I honestly never noticed a difference.
Nov 17 2016 6:35PM
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