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Most common way to tear an ACL skiing?

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Gryllz
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What is the most common way of tearing an ACL skiing? Hearing all these ACL stories and want to hear what to be careful with.

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personal stories welcome
Nov 2 2016 11:28PM
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dan4060
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I tore mine jumping off a cliff called Smooth Air on Granite Peak at Squaw. I did not stick the landing on a pow day and went into a cartwheel. My skis did not release. My ski got stuck under the snow and I had a backwards twisting fall. I felt the pop and heard the pop. It was loud. It did not hurt so I hoped nothing had happened but logically I knew that was not the case. I skied down to the medics and got checked out. The Dr. told me my ACL was torn when he reached behind my knee.

At least I sent what was for me a big cliff. I guess if I had to blow my ACL that would be the way to do it. I got surgery and it is fine now.
Nov 3 2016 12:10AM
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Gryllz
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dan4060I tore mine jumping off a cliff called Smooth Air on Granite Peak at Squaw. I did not stick the landing on a pow day and went into a cartwheel. My skis did not release. My ski got stuck under the snow and I had a backwards twisting fall. I felt the pop and heard the pop. It was loud. It did not hurt so I hoped nothing had happened but logically I knew that was not the case. I skied down to the medics and got checked out. The Dr. told me my ACL was torn when he reached behind my knee.

At least I sent what was for me a big cliff. I guess if I had to blow my ACL that would be the way to do it. I got surgery and it is fine now.


That sounds like a painful time
Nov 3 2016 12:59AM
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dan4060
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GryllzThat sounds like a painful time


It did not actually hurt, amazingly enough. The Dr. told me that when it tears completely and you only do the ACL it does not hurt.
Nov 3 2016 1:11AM
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Gryllz
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dan4060It did not actually hurt, amazingly enough. The Dr. told me that when it tears completely and you only do the ACL it does not hurt.


that could be a recipe for disaster. probably feels weird right?
Nov 3 2016 1:15AM
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yoke
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back seat, twisting, with one leg extended / dominate. just ball up and crash don't try to ride it out.
Nov 3 2016 1:23AM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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i cased a big stupid step-down.
Nov 3 2016 1:33AM
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dan4060
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Gryllzthat could be a recipe for disaster. probably feels weird right?


You mean at the time? Honestly it did not really feel all that weird after it happened. You lose some stability but I didn't really notice that. They told me not to jog on it but that I could lift weights other than extensions. It is fine now, I had a good surgeon and good PT guys.
Nov 3 2016 2:41AM
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HaydenWrong
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dan4060It did not actually hurt, amazingly enough. The Dr. told me that when it tears completely and you only do the ACL it does not hurt.

I heard mine over my music and it was very painful full tear but also fractured tib an femur I must be a puss bag lol
yokeback seat, twisting, with one leg extended / dominate. just ball up and crash don't try to ride it out.


This..... end thread/




best advise other than to " stop skiing" -Tall T
Nov 3 2016 8:36AM
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TheHamburglar
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mine was retarded... bombing groomers trying to send it off lil rollers. popped off one hard, pulled a tig ol liu kanger way back, didn't have enough hang time, tip of back ski caught snow, landed with all my weight on other leg in a twisting motion, the rest is history. oh yeah, tried to stomp back into my binding after the crash and it dislocated sideways. that shit hurt.
Nov 3 2016 2:49PM
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SofaKingSick
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dan4060I tore mine jumping off a cliff called Smooth Air on Granite Peak at Squaw. I did not stick the landing on a pow day and went into a cartwheel. My skis did not release. My ski got stuck under the snow and I had a backwards twisting fall. I felt the pop and heard the pop. It was loud. It did not hurt so I hoped nothing had happened but logically I knew that was not the case. I skied down to the medics and got checked out. The Dr. told me my ACL was torn when he reached behind my knee.

At least I sent what was for me a big cliff. I guess if I had to blow my ACL that would be the way to do it. I got surgery and it is fine now.


smooth air is sick! you ever stick it, before or after this incident?
Nov 3 2016 2:53PM
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s-hand
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https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/All-wanted-ACL-injuries-ski-bindings
Nov 3 2016 3:34PM
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Gryllz
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s-handhttps://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/All-wanted-ACL-injuries-ski-bindings


That answered my question perfectly thanks
Nov 3 2016 4:04PM
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milk_man
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Don't crank your dins up to be cool
Nov 3 2016 6:29PM
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frickindarn
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I came off 90 from a box instead of forward or backwards. My momentum just stopped. My knee popped and bent in towards my other knee. I fucking screamed skied to the bottom ripped off my boot and cried I was in so much pain. I ended with a complete ACL/MCL year and grade 2 years in both left and right meniscus.
Nov 3 2016 7:15PM
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Cadenmccullough
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milk_manDon't crank your dins up to be cool


This. I heard so many times of torn acl's because their boot didn't release from the binding.
Nov 3 2016 9:03PM
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bjcali04
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Landed a cork 3 with my right foot pointed inward about 45 degrees and immediately heard the pop - i knew my knees were pretty tired to begin with so my advice is to know your knees limits at the end of a long day. If your in the air and fuck up and have to land with all your weight on one leg you might be better off just bailing and tucking. take a concussion over the knee injury.
Nov 3 2016 9:20PM
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jKutcher
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yokeback seat, twisting, with one leg extended / dominate. just ball up and crash don't try to ride it out.


+1 It's the phantom foot.
Read this for some good info.
Nov 4 2016 9:55AM
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falling
Nov 5 2016 10:25AM
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Rennis_Deynolds
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Dennis_ReynoIdsfalling


whos mans is this
Nov 5 2016 11:51PM
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dan4060
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SofaKingSicksmooth air is sick! you ever stick it, before or after this incident?


Unfortunately no. I hit it too early in the season, I had not hit anything bigger than about 15 feet at that point, it was early January, so I was not ready. Had I tried it in April of the year before I might have been able to hit it as I had hit some bigger stuff at that point. Smooth Air was still bigger than anything I had hit but I had gone up to about 25-30 feet which is reasonably close to Smooth Air. But the year I did it it was in early January and I had not hit anything bigger than 15 so I was definitely not ready to go after something like that. I learned the hard way that you really have to work up to things before you hit them. After the injury I ended up leaving Tahoe and becoming a weekend warrior, so Smooth Air never got stuck. The one that got away. I like seeing footage of it in Gaffney's movies. It is a great line if you can stick it, I just couldn't.
Nov 7 2016 2:03PM
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SofaKingSick
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dan4060Unfortunately no. I hit it too early in the season, I had not hit anything bigger than about 15 feet at that point, it was early January, so I was not ready. Had I tried it in April of the year before I might have been able to hit it as I had hit some bigger stuff at that point. Smooth Air was still bigger than anything I had hit but I had gone up to about 25-30 feet which is reasonably close to Smooth Air. But the year I did it it was in early January and I had not hit anything bigger than 15 so I was definitely not ready to go after something like that. I learned the hard way that you really have to work up to things before you hit them. After the injury I ended up leaving Tahoe and becoming a weekend warrior, so Smooth Air never got stuck. The one that got away. I like seeing footage of it in Gaffney's movies. It is a great line if you can stick it, I just couldn't.


yeah dude agreed, it's a nice setup (hence the name) but it isnt a gimme, it's pretty big and it's one of those cliffs where the takeoff is next to a tree's top, and the landing is around that tree's bottom, giving you a big ol' reminder that youre dropping some decent vert haha

ive only had one chance to hit it and i was all by myself, first run early morning, stoned out of my brain, so i got in my head about it and opted out. oh well, live to ski another day. maybe you and i can go stomp the shit out of it together one day haha
Nov 7 2016 2:24PM
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taylornicky
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Crashing and not ejecting out of your skis. I was charging downhill and hit a lip I wasn't expecting and ended up kartwheeling.
Nov 7 2016 2:40PM
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Gryllz
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taylornickyCrashing and not ejecting out of your skis. I was charging downhill and hit a lip I wasn't expecting and ended up kartwheeling.


cartwheeled and your skis didn't eject?
Nov 7 2016 3:28PM
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taylornicky
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Gryllzcartwheeled and your skis didn't eject?


Obviously not full blown cartwheel because that'd be impressive. Flipped and twisted a few times but my skis didn't come off even with decent din settings. It's what did me in.
Nov 7 2016 3:55PM
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frickindarn
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Gryllzcartwheeled and your skis didn't eject?


Neither of my skis even ejected. My dins were at 7.
Nov 7 2016 5:14PM
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dan4060
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SofaKingSickyeah dude agreed, it's a nice setup (hence the name) but it isnt a gimme, it's pretty big and it's one of those cliffs where the takeoff is next to a tree's top, and the landing is around that tree's bottom, giving you a big ol' reminder that youre dropping some decent vert haha

ive only had one chance to hit it and i was all by myself, first run early morning, stoned out of my brain, so i got in my head about it and opted out. oh well, live to ski another day. maybe you and i can go stomp the shit out of it together one day haha


Yeah, when you whizz by that tree you get a feeling of how high you are in the air. It was a wake up call for me, I realized I had bit off more than I could chew. I was off in the air and was not close to sticking the landing.

I am rooting for you to hit it. Like I said, I'm a weekender now so I won't hit it, but I will be there with you when you stick it with a four-point landing. I'm there with you in spirit.
Nov 7 2016 10:25PM
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SofaKingSick
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dan4060Yeah, when you whizz by that tree you get a feeling of how high you are in the air. It was a wake up call for me, I realized I had bit off more than I could chew. I was off in the air and was not close to sticking the landing.

I am rooting for you to hit it. Like I said, I'm a weekender now so I won't hit it, but I will be there with you when you stick it with a four-point landing. I'm there with you in spirit.


yep, im a weekend warrior stuck back east for now. but some day ill get back there-- ill be sure to update ya haha
Nov 8 2016 12:28PM
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TWoods
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Backseat twisting is the most common way. Any sort of twisting, where your feet go one way and your upper body goes another is scary to watch.

I landed a little backseat and sideways on a 3 into pow when I did mine. Right foot stayed going more straight as I went down because the snow was heavy and choppy.
Nov 9 2016 12:28PM
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CalCarson
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If you land backseat just fall. Don't try to muscle it out and land it. I know multiple kids who have torn their acl this way.
Nov 9 2016 8:12PM
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Rparr
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not an acl, but I managed to give myself a tiny baker's cyst in the back of my knee going for an octograb once. I guess I'm not very flexible anymore.
Nov 10 2016 6:25AM
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freeskibum82
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Gryllzcartwheeled and your skis didn't eject?


taylornickyObviously not full blown cartwheel because that'd be impressive. Flipped and twisted a few times but my skis didn't come off even with decent din settings. It's what did me in.


more than likely their din is set to a level they think they can ski but obviously cant. or the story is exaggerated
Nov 10 2016 10:40AM
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doitbig
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I tore mine teaching a 45 year old guy on race skis to 50-50 a flat box. Went to spin around switch to watch him and wasn't looking at the snow. Bomb hole rut let my body spin and my ski stay stuck.

25 years of doing stupid shit on skis and a 4 foot flat box claimed my knee. Backwards twisting falls of any sort will do it.

Good news is I have 10 years on the repair and I'm skiing better then ever.
Nov 13 2016 2:38PM
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5choffield
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Landing backseat and twisting like most of the rest of these, on a hard day off a cork 7. Only 3rd run of the day and not even a misjudement of speed or over-rotation, just unlucky and due to being tired from skiing so much the weeks before. Best advice would definately be to know when youre tired and know when to lay off big jumps due to hard snow. Almost 8 months after surgury and skiing again now though
Nov 13 2016 8:12PM
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milk_man
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I guess you have to balance the risks and benefits
Nov 13 2016 11:04PM
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frickindarn
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Mine have been set at 8 for years. I've had 1 blown knee and maybe 10 times where my skis popped off.
Nov 14 2016 12:43AM
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