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Will Park City open on time?

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Z_Benesch
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The weather does not seem to be cooperating. The 10 day forecast that I am reading says it is suppose to warm up, making it very hard to make snow. Will they pull it off? I really hope so!!
Nov 2 2016 10:48AM
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SkiBum.
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No.

Looks like all wasatach/Utah resorts with early opening dates will miss.

Skeptical for Colorado too.
Nov 2 2016 1:00PM
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eheath
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Probably
Nov 2 2016 1:02PM
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The.Fish
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Keystone already missed their opening day and rescheduled
Nov 2 2016 3:48PM
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Z_Benesch
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Hopefully they pull it off because they seem to always do it.
Nov 4 2016 11:04AM
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FigNewton
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I drove past the tubing hill off I80 this morning and they had been making snow. I know they aren't Vail, but it's a good sign PC should be running their guns soon if they haven't already
Nov 4 2016 11:53AM
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SkiBum.
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FigNewtonI drove past the tubing hill off I80 this morning and they had been making snow. I know they aren't Vail, but it's a good sign PC should be running their guns soon if they haven't already


They have been. But they don't have good temps. They won't make it
Nov 4 2016 1:56PM
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eheath
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FigNewtonI drove past the tubing hill off I80 this morning and they had been making snow. I know they aren't Vail, but it's a good sign PC should be running their guns soon if they haven't already


SkiBum.They have been. But they don't have good temps. They won't make it


Yeah they dont care as much abou the snow at the tubing hill...

Making snow when its 28-32 degrees is pretty much pointless, it needs to be "below" freezing to make snow efficiently, and right the now the week forecast is for low 30s every night. It will probably cool off in two weeks, maybe three weeks and either snow or be could enough to make snow, but there is a good chance they'll miss the 18th.
Nov 4 2016 1:59PM
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Ninskasi
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Winter Park is still making snow at night, and we have never put off an opening since I can remember...
Nov 4 2016 2:28PM
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eheath
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NinskasiWinter Park is still making snow at night, and we have never put off an opening since I can remember...


You don't just "make snow" though, just cause you walk outside and its cold doesn't mean the resort can make snow.

Also, looking at the winter park weather forecast, its also only low 30s there, theyre probably getting a 1 hour window every night... not very efficient. Park city is in the same boat right now, its cold but just not cold enough to make snow.
Nov 4 2016 2:43PM
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Ninskasi
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eheathYou don't just "make snow" though, just cause you walk outside and its cold doesn't mean the resort can make snow.

Also, looking at the winter park weather forecast, its also only low 30s there, theyre probably getting a 1 hour window every night... not very efficient. Park city is in the same boat right now, its cold but just not cold enough to make snow.


I understand you don't just "make snow". But I am up at the resort in the early mornings to work and they have been running the guns when they can, which is awesome!
Just hoping they don't have to break that streak of opening on their set date.
Nov 4 2016 3:20PM
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SkiBum.
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NinskasiWinter Park is still making snow at night, and we have never put off an opening since I can remember...


Neither has Park City, or many other resorts for that matter.

But this year is looking like the first!
Nov 4 2016 7:30PM
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colder152000
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eheathYeah they dont care as much abou the snow at the tubing hill...

Making snow when its 28-32 degrees is pretty much pointless, it needs to be "below" freezing to make snow efficiently, and right the now the week forecast is for low 30s every night. It will probably cool off in two weeks, maybe three weeks and either snow or be could enough to make snow, but there is a good chance they'll miss the 18th.


28-32 is prime time east coast snow making temperature!
Nov 4 2016 9:10PM
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SkiBum.
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frankcolder28-32 is prime time east coast snow making temperature!


Most east coast resorts won't even turn on above 28...just a waste of money
Nov 4 2016 9:23PM
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colder152000
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SkiBum.Most east coast resorts won't even turn on above 28...just a waste of money


in PA 28 degrees is most defintely good money making weather
Nov 4 2016 10:33PM
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eheath
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frankcolderin PA 28 degrees is most defintely good money making weather


depends on humidity too, not just temp
Nov 4 2016 10:36PM
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skierman
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Who cares, MTBing is better anyways.
Nov 4 2016 11:10PM
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loopie
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28 degrees is the cutoff temperature I would use as a snowmaker working for Snowbird. It's not just temperature though you have to account for wet bulb and dry bulb temp. Wet bulb temp includes humidity, which accounts for latent heat effects. The best temperatures for blowing snow are 0-10 degrees wet bulb. You can crank the guns way up.

You can also make snow above 32 degrees but it is very poor quality and resource intensive.
Nov 5 2016 10:29AM
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The.Fish
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What is the point of planned openings? Nobody in the East has them.
Nov 7 2016 8:36AM
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SkiBum.
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You can "try to pull it off" all you want, but you can't make snow when it's hot...

Get the golf clubs back out
Nov 7 2016 10:30AM
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brett_fisher
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The.FishWhat is the point of planned openings? Nobody in the East has them.


Wasn't it like 50 degrees all winter on the east
Nov 7 2016 7:48PM
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270on420out
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brett_fisherWasn't it like 50 degrees all winter on the east


It fluctuated between being 10 degrees one weekend and 60 the next.
Nov 7 2016 8:47PM
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SkiBum.
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Little hope on long end of forecast. Would be a few day window if that
Nov 9 2016 10:53AM
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Z_Benesch
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SkiBum.Little hope on long end of forecast. Would be a few day window if that


True, if they don't pull off the 18th it shouldn't be much longer.
Nov 9 2016 4:33PM
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Trefin
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Solitude just announced pushing their opening date back. I believe they were originally projected for the 18th.

"We regret to inform you that Solitude Mountain Resort must postpone opening day of the 2016 - 2017 winter season due to weather. We are keeping a close watch on the forecast and will announce a new anticipated opening day as soon as possible. #WaitingForWinter"
https://skisolitude.com/

Alta/Snowbird and PC haven't announced anything and still have the the 18th posted as opening but don't be shocked if it changes.
Nov 9 2016 9:37PM
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GayWolf420
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skibum said it but theres a small window hopefully in the coming 5-10 days.

gonna be some hectic early season laps if some of these places don't open though, lots of people that probably planned to ski and spend the holiday in PC might either cancel their trips or come out and make something out of it by skiing the cottonwood resorts or something.

that and probably a fuck load of pissed off epic pass holders, too. I feel for all you service industry employees in town that gotta deal with these fucking assholes all the time, too.
Nov 10 2016 11:36PM
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The.Fish
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Glad I am just skiing Loveland over break.
Nov 12 2016 8:01PM
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.otto.
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SkiBum.Neither has Park City, or many other resorts for that matter.

But this year is looking like the first!


after the midwest had the shittiest season last year i cant help but find happiness in the struggle colorado/utah might have this year

my area opened january 4 for some perspective
Nov 13 2016 12:42PM
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SkiBum.
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Opening pushed back a week
Nov 14 2016 9:10PM
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eheath
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SkiBum.Opening pushed back a week


Yeah they announced nov 26th. Honestly stoked about this, if they tried to open this weekend they maybe would have been able to open home run, but no park. Now they get this week and next week (snow in the forecast the next two weeks too) with decent temps and they should have enough snow to make a good park when they do open.
Nov 14 2016 9:38PM
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John18_6
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If Wild Mountain can open a bunny hill with 2 hours of 30 degree temps, then all things are possible.
Nov 15 2016 12:32AM
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GayWolf420
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john18061806If Wild Mountain can open a bunny hill with 2 hours of 30 degree temps, then all things are possible.


theyre trying to open everything up here the week of turkey day so we'll see.


not even mad, im gonna go spend the rest of my days off this week down in Moab.
Nov 15 2016 1:32AM
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brett_fisher
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I got my pass printed today and they were a bunch of guys working on a large Christmas tree.they weren't blowing snow weathers looking good it though
Nov 15 2016 7:35PM
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skierman
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eheathYeah they announced nov 26th. Honestly stoked about this


"Blackout Dates:

Vail, Beaver Creek, Whistler Blackcomb, Park City, Heavenly, Northstar & Kirkwood are restricted 11/25/16–11/26/16"

LOL opening day is blacked out.
Nov 15 2016 8:02PM
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SkiBum.
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brett_fisherI got my pass printed today and they weren't blowing


It was 70 degrees out....

And the local blackout for opening weekend is pretty funny.
Nov 15 2016 8:08PM
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brett_fisher
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SkiBum.It was 70 degrees out....

And the local blackout for opening weekend is pretty funny.


youth pass isnt blacked out ill be skiing :)
Nov 15 2016 9:11PM
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brett_fisher
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SkiBum.It was 70 degrees out....

And the local blackout for opening weekend is pretty funny.


youth pass isnt blacked out ill be skiing :)
Nov 15 2016 9:11PM
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eheath
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skierman"Blackout Dates:

Vail, Beaver Creek, Whistler Blackcomb, Park City, Heavenly, Northstar & Kirkwood are restricted 11/25/16–11/26/16"

LOL opening day is blacked out.


If you're a pleb and get the local pass...
Nov 15 2016 9:27PM
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skierman
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eheathIf you're a pleb and get the local pass...


Shut up, you Trump elitist fuck.
Nov 15 2016 9:50PM
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brett_fisher
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skiermanShut up, you Trump elitist fuck.


judge someone on their political views your cool .
Nov 16 2016 6:42PM
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GayWolf420
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skierman"Blackout Dates:

Vail, Beaver Creek, Whistler Blackcomb, Park City, Heavenly, Northstar & Kirkwood are restricted 11/25/16–11/26/16"

LOL opening day is blacked out.


sucha gr8 pass deal though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 17 2016 8:10PM
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skierman
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brett_fisherjudge someone on their political views your cool .


You're just another PC n00b bitch. Your fanboy shit opinion doesn't matter.
Nov 17 2016 8:32PM
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Z_Benesch
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This thread is getting heated!
Nov 18 2016 12:02PM
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BWalmer
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frankcolder28-32 is prime time east coast snow making temperature!


frankcolderin PA 28 degrees is most defintely good money making weather


Haha - a wetbulb of 28 degrees is the highest temp/humidity combo you can actually make snow at. Most resorts will let it go past there IF there is already a base AND it's going to get cold enough (not to mention have enough water - which will be the east coasts problem this year, it's been REALLY dry).

This season is starting to look at lot like last year on the east and 2 years ago on the west combined - not great.
Nov 19 2016 9:14AM
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SkiBum.
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BWalmerHaha - a wetbulb of 28 degrees is the highest temp/humidity combo you can actually make snow at. Most resorts will let it go past there IF there is already a base AND it's going to get cold enough (not to mention have enough water - which will be the east coasts problem this year, it's been REALLY dry).

This season is starting to look at lot like last year on the east and 2 years ago on the west combined - not great.


Not at all.

Massive pattern change in progress right now for majority of west. Train of storms incoming. Not all huge. But all coming and all models show strong end to November

East is getting a quick shot tomorrow with cold temps to follow. Would assume handful or more resorts get open for thanksgiving weekend.
Nov 19 2016 11:21AM
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GayWolf420
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Alta is pushed back to the weekend of the 3rd, haven't really seen anything about Snowbird. Brighton is making a push to get something open this weekend, and Park City is looking bare as fuck. Was in town all day today and it was nuking up at Empire Pass but the rain at the lower elevations did not help at all. It was fucking pissing around 5:30pm.

kind of a bummer of a November but oh well, we'll probably forget all that when we have another deep start to the new year.
Nov 21 2016 10:32PM
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GayWolf420
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DeebieSkeebiesAlta is pushed back to the weekend of the 3rd, haven't really seen anything about Snowbird. Brighton is making a push to get something open this weekend, and Park City is looking bare as fuck. Was in town all day today and it was nuking up at Empire Pass but the rain at the lower elevations did not help at all. It was fucking pissing around 5:30pm.

kind of a bummer of a November but oh well, we'll probably forget all that when we have another deep start to the new year.


and a really deep Christmas I should add as well. Shit was bonkers last year.
Nov 21 2016 10:34PM
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SkiBum.
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No jibs and jabs for opening. Vail fail blackout in effect. Lols
Nov 23 2016 12:56PM
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